So how many here still believe in THE PROCESS? The big lie....

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

And you've shown yours, you'd rather mediocrity.

 

Super bowls are the goal. 

 

Without a Qb putting up those numbers, you aren't going there.  Our Qb has yet to even throw for 300.   

 

Daniel Jones has done it TWICE already as ROOKIE, including his FIRST NFL start. 

Yes Super Bowls are the goal.   You get that by winning.  And you have now said you’d rather see the team lose

[Cripple Creek]

17 minutes ago, london_bills said:

With a top notch coach aswell. I knew this game would be tough for the bills and was concerned about a 5-1 record team getting complacent/ not 'having urgency'. The bills lose against the good coaches and QBs, hopefully that changes at some point this season. Against the ravens would be a good win.

Against the Ravens would be an outstanding time to buck this trend.

[BigPappy]

2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

This team finished 9-7, 8-8 & 7-9 the prior three years to Coach McD & we've been forced fed the process in 2017 & on.....  Yep 5-2, with a cupcake schedule and still we hear particularly on here about the Process.....

 

Sorry I want more & hope that is the sentiment of most fans & ownership.  

  So the team has started to make it's turn around and has a winning record and you're complaining? In his first year coach McD led this team to a winning record while unloading some very expensive "talent" and backed us into the playoffs with some help from Dalton, takes the necessary step backwards last year to make the big step forward for this year and the future. What most people call progress, and you B word and moan like a silly school girl on her period. smh.

 

 

2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

We get it. You don't like the team's direction and winning. You're happy with losing. Now piss off.

What he said!

Edited October 29, 2019 by BigPappy

[oldmanfan]

7 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Hows Daniel Jones looking? 

Good and bad.  Honest to God you have no clue how the NFL works, do you?

[TwistofFate]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Yes Super Bowls are the goal.   You get that by winning.  And you have now said you’d rather see the team lose

You get there with QB play and offense. 

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Good and bad.  Honest to God you have no clue how the NFL works, do you?

Yea, you score POINTS. Do you know how it works??? 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

You get there with QB play and offense. 

Check out last year's Super Bowl.  Oh, and by the way since you crow about Jones here's his stats.   You lied about him having multiple 300 yard games. 

 

2019	Pct	Yds	TD	Int	Sck	QBR
10/20 vs Cardinals	62.9	223	1	1	8	78.6
10/11 @ Patriots	48.4	161	1	3	1	35.2
10/06 vs Vikings	55.3	182	1	1	4	65.9
09/29 vs Redskins	74.2	225	1	2	0	78
09/22 @ Buccaneers	63.9	336	2	0	5	112.7

[foreboding]

23 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

You're not allowed to say that here where McClappity preaches 14-10 games......  

 

Remember "Trust the Process"

 

Again as usual you are missing the point.  This is a QB driven league and the Bills need to know whether Allen is the guy (& I think he is).

 

However they don't give him any real weapons, an offensive game plan that is based on scoring points and have yes had a cupcake schedule so no one knows for sure.

 

I love the Bills and want to see them win, want exciting offensive football and to see results more like the LA Rams & SF 49'ers who re-built and have immediate success, then this Process that next thing we know may be year 4, 5 6..........    

 

I'm happy the Bills are 5-2, just not thrilled with their play for the most part.

You are missing the point, missing the entire target, in fact. The process is simply an approach, a mindset toward effort and growth. Analyzing mistakes and improving. It has zero to do with whether or not we have the right qb, wr etc. Culture is critical and if you cant see that, allow me to introduce you to Rex Ryan, Adam Gase or Jay Gruden.

[DrDawkinstein]

 

[TwistofFate]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Check out last year's Super Bowl.  Oh, and by the way since you crow about Jones here's his stats.   You lied about him having multiple 300 yard games. 

 

2019	Pct	Yds	TD	Int	Sck	QBR
10/20 vs Cardinals	62.9	223	1	1	8	78.6
10/11 @ Patriots	48.4	161	1	3	1	35.2
10/06 vs Vikings	55.3	182	1	1	4	65.9
09/29 vs Redskins	74.2	225	1	2	0	78
09/22 @ Buccaneers	63.9	336	2	0	5	112.7

Are you really this incompetent? 

 

He has TWO 300+ games.   His first start as a rookie, and this past week.   

 

Thats the definition of MULTIPLE. 

[DrDawkinstein]

 

[Dopey]

I believe in the process.

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Check out last year's Super Bowl.  Oh, and by the way since you crow about Jones here's his stats.   You lied about him having multiple 300 yard games. 

 

2019	Pct	Yds	TD	Int	Sck	QBR
10/20 vs Cardinals	62.9	223	1	1	8	78.6
10/11 @ Patriots	48.4	161	1	3	1	35.2
10/06 vs Vikings	55.3	182	1	1	4	65.9
09/29 vs Redskins	74.2	225	1	2	0	78
09/22 @ Buccaneers	63.9	336	2	0	5	112.7

Seem to miss this 4 TDs 0 Picks.

 

Oh & a low scoring SB......  Way to pull that rabbit out of the hat......

 

You guys really hate Offense & exciting football????

[H2o]

41 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

3tds and 350 yards.  This is a pass first, offensive driven league.   You cant expect your defense to play lights out every week, and when they have a bad week you lose and lise badly.   Thats not balance. 

 

Losses suck, but they are inevitable.  Its how you lost that matters.   10 straight incompletions and 3 fumbles is not how you want to lose. 

 

350 and 3tds???  Losing on a game winning drive?   Acceptable in my eyes. 

Pull up the stats from the SB and let me know how those "high powered" Rams fared about 9 months ago.

 

Did Josh lose 3 fumbles on Sunday? Did I miss something? Wentz fumbled as well, but caught a fortunate bounce. I'm not even going to go into detail about the 4th quarter because you won't grasp it. 

 

Again, people who don't like Allen are going to p*** and moan about Allen no matter what. He has 6 TD passes and 1 INT in his last 3 games so now people are going on and on about the fumbles. His completion percentage is up like 10% over last year, but now it's he's not putting up enough stats for me. He has already carried the team to 5 victories in 7 games, with the only two defeats being against the last two SB champions, posting one of the best 4th qtr QB ratings in the entire NFL, and coming up clutch when it matters most, but now it's the weak schedule he is benefiting from. I don't think that what is "acceptable" in your eyes means anything, really. The only thing that matters is wins and losses. Get to the playoffs, hopefully Josh and the defense are playing their best football then, and everyone is 0-0. 

Edited October 29, 2019 by H2o

[Billsfan1972]

2 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Are you really this incompetent? 

 

He has TWO 300+ games.   His first start as a rookie, and this past week.   

 

Thats the definition of MULTIPLE. 

Shhh, that will ruin his narrative......

[DrDawkinstein]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

23 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Isn’t this the point, the Eagles are good and the Bills got their a** kicked at home.  I understand they can only play the schedule they are given, but when they do play a better team they need to win a couple of them.

 

Warren Sharp stat from yesterday, Bills now 0-8 the last 2 years against teams with average or better offenses.  They allow 29 ppg and lose by average score of 29-9.

 

They need to start getting a couple of signature wins against good teams or we will continue to just be talked about as the paper tiger that we are.  I hope they do, probably only have a couple opportunities to do so this season.  Cowboys and Patriot wins would really help.  JMHO

 

that depends on who is saying what.. Are they a GLOOM and DOOM Oh Woe is me! type or not?

 

I'll say it for the 50th time - 95% of the participants here had the Bills losing to the Eagles one month ago.  

 

Were the Bills horrid in allowing those 3 or 4 HUGE runs get by them adding up to 218 yards.  Hell yes.  

 

People can panic all they want.  I'm chill getting a chuckle out of the mayhem.  

 

Also .. look up the history of the Miami games where the Fish once ran for over 200 yards against the Bills . You will find on one occasion the Bills WON that game.  

 

[TwistofFate]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Shhh, that will ruin his narrative......

Im not sure what game some people are watching, but this team needs offense badly.  

 

Offense wins games, defense wins championships.  Its as true as it ever was. 

 

You aren't going anywhere when you cant pass over 300 yards and score points. 

[oldmanfan]

12 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Are you really this incompetent? 

 

He has TWO 300+ games.   His first start as a rookie, and this past week.   

 

Thats the definition of MULTIPLE. 

Missed this week.  My bad.  Tell me:  did they win this past week?  Because, as you say, to win Super Bowls you have to win games.

 

Or is he more like your wish, you know.  Have the team lose so long as you get a certain number of yards?

8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Shhh, that will ruin his narrative...…

I admit when I'm wrong.  I was wrong there.  You, on the other hand, simply refuse to answer a basic question:  name me a successful organization that does not have a process in place to be a successful organization.

5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Im not sure what game some people are watching, but this team needs offense badly.  

 

Offense wins games, defense wins championships.  Its as true as it ever was. 

 

You aren't going anywhere when you cant pass over 300 yards and score points. 

 

5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Im not sure what game some people are watching, but this team needs offense badly.  

 

Offense wins games, defense wins championships.  Its as true as it ever was. 

 

You aren't going anywhere when you cant pass over 300 yards and score points. 

Defense wins championships.  You said it right here.  Here's a poem for you in honor of your flip flopping:

 

Roses are red

Violets are blue

I'm not schizophrenic

And neither am I

Edited October 29, 2019 by oldmanfan

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Check out last year's Super Bowl.  Oh, and by the way since you crow about Jones here's his stats.   You lied about him having multiple 300 yard games. 

 

2019	Pct	Yds	TD	Int	Sck	QBR
10/20 vs Cardinals	62.9	223	1	1	8	78.6
10/11 @ Patriots	48.4	161	1	3	1	35.2
10/06 vs Vikings	55.3	182	1	1	4	65.9
09/29 vs Redskins	74.2	225	1	2	0	78
09/22 @ Buccaneers	63.9	336	2	0	5	112.7

 

Sacks are high, which happens with rookies.  Teams blitz them or fake blitz them pretty much the whole game til they show they can beat it.

[Billsfan1972]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Missed this week.  My bad.  Tell me:  did they win this past week?  Because, as you say, to win Super Bowls you have to win games.

 

Or is he more like your wish, you know.  Have the team lose so long as you get a certain number of yards?

I admit when I'm wrong.  I was wrong there.  You, on the other hand, simply refuse to answer a basic question:  name me a successful organization that doe not have a process in place to be a successful organization.

 

Defense wins championships.  You said it right here.  Here's a poem for you in honor of your flip flopping:

 

Roses are red

Violets are blue

I'm not schizophrenic

And neither am I

Not every team uses that as their Mantra......  

 

Sorry I am not a salary cap expert, but again people cling to the narrative that the Bills were in Salary cap hell.  Frankly I don't believe they were, but sounds like a good excuse.

 

This team & some here have excuse after excuse.  As bad as Miami & Washington are, they too are relying on picking that star QB.  

 

So if the Bills beat Washington that will mean wins over teams with 0,0,1,1 & 2 wins & a signature win over 4 win Tennessee (who benched there QB in large part to his performance vs. the Bills Elite defense).