Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Rudy said he did this over a month ago. It's not news. He was all over the news doing exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Rudy said he did this over a month ago. It's not news. He was all over the news doing exactly that. It is new because we have new information and we have a law breaking situation that seems related to just this sort of republic undermining activity. The fun benefit of all this will be when we have a Democrat in the Oval Office after January 2021 and you guys try and smear him/her. It will all be Fake News. Fake News forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 ? How Has Joe Biden’s Scandal Suddenly Become President Trump’s Scandal? By Elizabeth Vaughn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: How Has Joe Biden’s Scandal Suddenly Become President Trump’s Scandal? Ooooh! Oooooh! Mr. Cotter, I got this one! If what is being reported is true, it's because Trump is extorting and bribing a foreign nation to undermine our republic for his own selfish needs. That's serious corruption. Rudy basically admitted much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 DOJ and the DNI Tell Adam Schiff to FOAD Over Whistleblower Report and Schiff Makes a Toothless Threat to Go to Court . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Really, you can't blame the left for all these made up nonsense attacks on Trump, they have to do something to keep attention off the putrid mess of the democrat presidential nominees. Edited September 20, 2019 by Albwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Albwan said: Really, you can't blame the left for all these made up nonsense attacks on Trump, they have to do something to keep attention off the putrid mess of the democrat presidential nominees. Trump says the whistleblower is 'highly partisan' He doesn't even know who he is! And the Inspector General is a "leftist" too? Why don't you just think? You know, use your brain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 WSJ reporting Trump offered no quid pro quo... (shocking) -- he asked them to look into Biden's son. (This is going to be baaaad for Joe, not Trump) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 It's already boomeranging as people put it together: That's what the FISA investigation is all about: abusing power to investigate your political rivals in violation of the constitution. Trump didn't do any of that. So if the outrage is going to fly at Trump over this -- then get ready for what's about to hit DC in the form of Horowitz/Durham/Huber. In the end this story accomplishes three things: 1) It shines a laser pointer on the Ukraine -- which is not what Nuland, Kerry, Clinton, Biden, or the McCain family want. 2) It energizes people on all sides to be outraged over political persecution/abuse of power 3) Exposes the media as hypocrites for the past three years of ignoring actual abuses of power and political persecutions. Gonna be fun:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Trump pressures Ukrainian President to work with Rudy, WSJ reporting. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-probe-hunter-biden-eight-times-in-one-call-wsj?ref=home 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's already boomeranging as people put it together: That's what the FISA investigation is all about: abusing power to investigate your political rivals in violation of the constitution. Trump didn't do any of that. So if the outrage is going to fly at Trump over this -- then get ready for what's about to hit DC in the form of Horowitz/Durham/Huber. In the end this story accomplishes three things: 1) It shines a laser pointer on the Ukraine -- which is not what Nuland, Kerry, Clinton, Biden, or the McCain family want. 2) It energizes people on all sides to be outraged over political persecution/abuse of power 3) Exposes the media as hypocrites for the past three years of ignoring actual abuses of power and political persecutions. Gonna be fun:) No, it’s not boomeranging at all. Fantasy 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: WSJ reporting Trump offered no quid pro quo... (shocking) -- he asked them to look into Biden's son. (This is going to be baaaad for Joe, not Trump) Lol, nice spin, he pressured the president. Hey, just have WH release the whistleblower allegation. Just release it! Stop breaking the law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Trump's team seeking information from the Ukrainian government on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden isn't illegal. Hillary Clinton did the same about Trump in 2016. It may be ugly; it doesn't violate the law. See, e.g., the analysis here: Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/07/12/can-it-be-a-crime-to-do-opposition-research-by-asking-foreigners-for-information/ . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Hey, just have WH release the whistleblower allegation. Just release it! Stop breaking the law! You are Sooooo disingenuous! Or maybe your not aware there are also laws of confidentiality to PROTECT the whistleblower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cinga said: You are Sooooo disingenuous! Or maybe your not aware there are also laws of confidentiality to PROTECT the whistleblower? Probably not good for the current president to be shyt talking the whistleblower then, right? Edited September 20, 2019 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Trump's team seeking information from the Ukrainian government on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden isn't illegal. Hillary Clinton did the same about Trump in 2016. It may be ugly; it doesn't violate the law. See, e.g., the analysis here: Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/07/12/can-it-be-a-crime-to-do-opposition-research-by-asking-foreigners-for-information/ . Personally I don't think its ugly - it's just unnecessary. Trump should just chill out, negotiate with China, and let his leftist campaign team do all the work for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Probably not good for the current president to be shyt talking the whistleblower then, right? wtf does that have to do with protecting his/her identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 They still don't get how to handle Trump 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Bye, Joe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Two relevant details left out (really three): 1) It wasn't news about Rudy/Ukraine 2) It was State's request 3) There was no quid pro quo w Trump/Ukraine (Unlike Biden/Ukraine/Hillary/Ukraine) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 He's not a bright guy. This is the wrong approach to take. Reminder: Sorry, Joe. You never had a chance to win anyway. But now you're going to spend your golden years trying to salvage what's left of your reputation. And we're just getting started exposing the skeletons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Community Reminder: this is a Tibs thread and we may be quickly approaching the time in which he gives this the same treatment he gave to the original Covington Kids thread. Don't post anything here and hope to be able to find it in the future, because this is also not going to go the way he wants it to. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2014 https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-hunter-biden-cronyism-nepotism-perspec-1023-jm-20141022-story.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 FLASHBACK: January 2017 Politico: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire: Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton. “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capco Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: This is going to be baaaad for Joe, not Trump Can you give me a run down of all your smoking gun predictions that have actually lead to something? I'm still waiting for the Clintons to get jailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 DR can certainly speak for himself but I had this epiphany and feel like I would be remiss by not following through on it. One never wants to waste an epiphany. WTF do you think you are that you feel justified in coming here on a rare instance and expect any kind of a semblance of a recap of anything. Pay your dues. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Capco said: Can you give me a run down of all your smoking gun predictions that have actually lead to something? I'm still waiting for the Clintons to get jailed. I never predicted the Clintons would be jailed. Predictions aren’t what I do. I provide analysis of OS evidence and information. I used that to get ahead on the Russia story, and suss out that it was 1) bull#### and 2) what was the actual story there (illegal spying on political opposition by Obama). 2-2 there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I never predicted the Clintons would be jailed. Predictions aren’t what I do. I provide analysis of OS evidence and information. I used that to get ahead on the Russia story, and suss out that it was 1) bull#### and 2) what was the actual story there (illegal spying on political opposition by Obama). 2-2 there. What's going to be the score of the Bills game this weekend? Oh ***** that. What are the Powerball numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, Chef Jim said: What's going to be the score of the Bills game this weekend? Oh ***** that. What are the Powerball numbers? 58008 ************ True — for now. https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1175429994086109185 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Ha, they are 30330. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543 https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1175393929438662656 Its on video, Joe. Gaslighting the country (again) isn’t a good look on ya. Bye, Joe. Hello Warren as the nominee (which = Trump landslide in 2020) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 58008 ************ True — for now. https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1175429994086109185 I think the Bills will win too, but 580-08 sounds a bit optimistic for the score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: I think the Bills will win too, but 580-08 sounds a bit optimistic for the score. Just wait until Josh and Morse break out the Annexation of Puerto Rico. That's worth 100 points on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I never predicted the Clintons would be jailed. Predictions aren’t what I do. I provide analysis of OS evidence and information. I used that to get ahead on the Russia story, and suss out that it was 1) bull#### and 2) what was the actual story there (illegal spying on political opposition by Obama). 2-2 there. You just stated, verbatim, that this will be bad for Joe. That’s a prediction. You make statements like that don’t you, or is this the one and only time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Another "WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!" story dies a loud death. And now the country and voters are searching for Joe/Ukraine stories on Google and more and more people are becoming aware of just how full of ***** ol' Joe is. 1 minute ago, Capco said: You just stated, verbatim, that this will be bad for Joe. That’s a prediction. You make statements like that don’t you, or is this the one and only time? That's analysis. Not a prediction. And it already is bad for Joe. The worm has already turned. Try again. Or keep believing a media who has proven themselves to be willing to lie to your face for three years about Trump/Russia... or about WMD in Iraq... or about the US NOT spying on its citizens illegally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Another "WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!" story dies a loud death. And now the country and voters are searching for Joe/Ukraine stories on Google and more and more people are becoming aware of just how full of ***** ol' Joe is. That's analysis. Not a prediction. And it already is bad for Joe. The worm has already turned. Try again. But you didn’t say it is bad, did you? You said it will be bad. Future tense. That’s a prediction. But anyway, if it is bad right now, what does that even mean? What present ramifications have occurred that are “bad”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Capco said: But you didn’t say it is bad, did you? You said it will be bad. Future tense. That’s a prediction. It's not. It's analysis. I'll tell you when I predict something -- and that will only happen in Bills predict the score threads. I take OSINT and analyze it through the lens of the disinformation war which is raging all around us whether you're conscious of it or not. That analysis is sometimes bolstered by off the record discussions with people who are doing the jobs in question -- whether it's LEOs, DOJ, FBI, IC, or Hill staffers. These sources were cultivated due to analysis I provided to them which proved its worth. This gives me some additional insight, but not the ability to tell the future. That's not what I've ever claimed to be doing. What I've said, dozens and dozens of times, is that I'm here to share OSINT with a community I care about to keep it better informed than they'd otherwise be if they solely relied upon the media. I've also said, dozens of times, that based on history and tradition the rational position to hold is that there will be no mass indictments or arrests. I disagree with that, my analysis leads me to believe we're in a new era of history on that front -- but time will tell. Not my predictions. 5 minutes ago, Capco said: But anyway, if it is bad right now, what does that even mean? What present ramifications have occurred that are “bad”? Voters are watching Joe admit he abused his power to get an outcome favorable financially to his son. The google search results the past 72 hours since this story broke are off the charts in terms of people digging into Joe, not Trump. Digging into the Ukraine and Obama's corruption there -- not Trump. The more sunlight that gets shined on Obama's legacy the better it is for Trump. Because Obama's legacy is not scandal free -- it's riddled with abuses of power that would make even the media's version of Trump blush. That's bad for Joe. That's bad for his chances to win. He's being exposed as a corrupt fraud, not a man of the people. And there's more to come. The ramifications will be he'll either be out of the race by winter -- or the DNC will rig the process as they did last year to bolster him. If they do that, too many people are watching for that to go smoothly. Either way it's lose/lose for Joe and the DNC. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I appreciate you taking the time to write that Rhino. I’m not anywhere close to a Biden fan, but I cannot help but think that if the deep state is as deep and all encompassing as you say, then it won’t make any difference anyway. I can’t see how you reconcile that belief with your belief that this time it will be different, and that there will be a new era involving actual prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 They opened the bottle -- because Trump baited them into it -- and now want to try to put the genie back in it. Won't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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