Democrat Debates

[Deranged Rhino]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I'll make it better. If Biden is the nominee and he wins -- I'll keep it for four years. 

 

If Biden isn't the nominee, or if he loses to Trump in the general, you have to change your avatar to a Pro-Trump one for a year. 

 

Deal?

(4-1)

 

4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

This would be funny if I didn't think you actually thought this proves he's not a racist.  Just sad.  It's like that twitter post propaganda @Foxx posted the other day that he begged any liberal to watch.

 

Just sad.

 

What's that picture from? What event? Was Trump a regular there or just a passerby? 

 

Yeah... helps to look deeper. But keep telling us all how he's a racist because the media tells you that he is. The same media that lied to you for the past three years about him being Putin's asset. 

 

They think you're stupid, Transplant. And you're proving they're correct.

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

You mean Obama's scandal-free legacy?

 

 

 

Democrats turn on Obama legacy as they hit out at Biden in debate

by Naomi Lim

 

Original Article

 

 

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THEY’RE NOT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE: 

‘No Republican Talking Points!’ Is The New Democrat Talking Point.

 

 

 

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I found Castro's statement interesting where he said one of us didn't learn from our mistakes to Biden since he was part of the Obama administration.  It's natural for progressive candidates to keep moving the ball forward as it was only 10 years Obama said he was against gay marriage but for civil unions.  Now a majority of Americans support it. 

 

Conservatives have always been more status quo by their very nature so they rarely go after the previous GOP administrations.  However, the Dem candidates not qualifying their statements about the ACA being a step in the right direction in their view (20 million more people uninsured, pre existing conditions now covered, less bankruptcies, people covered under parents plan until 24, etc..), they just came across as wildly at odds with the majority of the democratic electorate.  Same thing goes for illegal immigration.  At least if Biden and maybe Buttigieg stand their ground, primary voters will be given the choice of a more moderate candidate and a more progressive candidate.

 

19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Correct. 

 

Which is why there aren't any winners on that stage (or last night's stage). 

 

Thank you for proving my point.  

I think your failing to see that somebody like Biden, Buttigieg, and even Harris will move towards the middle once they clinch the nomination.  Winning the primary and general election are two different things.

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I think your failing to see that somebody like Biden, Buttigieg, and even Harris will move towards the middle once they clinch the nomination.  Winning the primary and general election are two different things.

 

They'll absolutely move to the middle - or try to. 

 

But why did Hillary run and not Biden in 2016? Because Biden was too far left and Hillary was the moderate. Joe's record won't let him move to the middle even when he tries. Harris's handlers won't let her move to the middle when she wins because they're all HRC holdovers who thought calling half the country "deplorable" was a winning strategy. And Mayor Pete can't win unless he massively increases his black support which is near 0 at the moment. 

[Doc Brown]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

They'll absolutely move to the middle - or try to. 

 

But why did Hillary run and not Biden in 2016? Because Biden was too far left and Hillary was the moderate. Joe's record won't let him move to the middle even when he tries. Harris's handlers won't let her move to the middle when she wins because they're all HRC holdovers who thought calling half the country "deplorable" was a winning strategy. And Mayor Pete can't win unless he massively increases his black support which is near 0 at the moment. 

People automatically equate Biden with Obama's policies because they have it in their mind that he's the VP and therefore it would be Obama's third term.  Hillary with all her problems still won the popular vote and lost by a sliver in the three Midwest states she needed to win.  All they really have to do is turn out more voters by running a slightly more palatable candidate and that might be enough.  They don't even need to win the Obama turned Trump voters.  It won't be easy but it's certainly doable with the right candidate.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

People automatically equate Biden with Obama's policies because they have it in their mind that he's the VP and therefore it would be Obama's third term.  Hillary with all her problems still won the popular vote and lost by a sliver in the three Midwest states she needed to win.  All they really have to do is turn out more voters by running a slightly more palatable candidate and that might be enough.  They don't even need to win the Obama turned Trump voters.  It won't be easy but it's certainly doable with the right candidate.

 

I agree -- but the bolded is the issue. The right candidate isn't on either stage. 

 

Biden's troubles haven't even begun (China, Ukraine). 

Harris's troubles haven't even begun (her AG resume, divisive history in law enforcement)

 

Sanders and Warren both have all their skeletons out in the open already, and don't have any surprises left -- which makes them the strongest candidates to survive a general with Trump... but they're also the two least electable front-runners on the ticket. 

 

(imo of course)

[TakeYouToTasker]

24 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

When you say to 4 people of color, all of whom are citizens, 3 of whom were born and raised in the USA and I quote "who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all)" to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

 

you MUST acknowledge one of two things about the speaker regarding that particular thing he said:

 

1) He/she is a moron

 

2) He/she is a racist

 

 

But in this case it's more likely that he's a combination of both.

 

Too many things throughout his entire life to count.

 

Trump's pretty clearly a racist bigot.  But at least that's not the only thing he has going for him...

 

He's falls under plenty of other categories when it comes to being a bigot.

 

 

In addition to this:  we’re experiencing all time low unemployment for blacks Americans.

 

Factor that in along with the fact the President Trump doesn’t need the black vote to win the election.  That’s the reality.

 

And yet he is courting their vote like no Republican candidate ever.  He’s drawing attention to core “black” issues, and he’s solving their problems.

 

Those aren’t the acts of a racist.

 

But you know who does need the black vote to win?  Democrats.

 

Democrats will never win another Presidential election if they lose the black vote, and this terrifies them.  Lyndon Johnson promised the Democratic Party that he’d “have those n*****s voting Democrat for 100 years.” by enslaving them to the state.

 

Thats why Democrats are so desperate to paint the President as a racist every time he exposes how bad black Americans have it under them thumb of Democrats who keep them broken to keep them on the dole.

[Deranged Rhino]

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[Chef Jim]

57 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

When you say to 4 people of color, all of whom are citizens, 3 of whom were born and raised in the USA and I quote "who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all)" to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

 

you MUST acknowledge one of two things about the speaker regarding that particular thing he said:

 

1) He/she is a moron

 

2) He/she is a racist

 

 

 

I'll give you the first conclusion.  Please explain, in detail, how you have logically come to this conclusion regarding the part in bold. 

 

I'd also like for you to define what a racist it. 

Edited August 1, 2019 by Chef Jim

[3rdnlng]

The Democrat Party could just as easily be called the Forked Tongue Party. It's nominee has to say one thing to become the nominee but has to change that stance to win the general election. The difference between Trump and his Republican predecessors is that Trump is not afraid of calling the Forked Tongue Party out. The FTP has boxed themselves into positions of being an honest socialist or a lying party.

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The media complex/Hillary holdovers in the media want Harris. 

The DNC establishment wants Biden.

The progressive left (minority in numbers, but most vocal/active) want neither of the above. 

 

All polls are designed to accentuate the top two items, whether they have the data to support it or not. It's all smoke and mirrors until people go to the ballot box in 8 months.

I could see Joey-B being the nominee with Kamala as his VP. I still think Kamala is the "chosen one", but I could be wrong.

If Biden is the nominee will he win the general? Ummmm unlikely. I still say he's in this to scream "political persecution" if something goes down with Ukraine indictments on his son, but ?‍♀️  ya never know.
 

Edited August 1, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal

[Doc Brown]

11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The Democrat Party could just as easily be called the Forked Tongue Party. It's nominee has to say one thing to become the nominee but has to change that stance to win the general election. The difference between Trump and his Republican predecessors is that Trump is not afraid of calling the Forked Tongue Party out. The FTP has boxed themselves into positions of being an honest socialist or a lying party.

Trump said we should take out the terrorists families, bring back even worse than waterboarding, deport all 11 million illegal aliens, and called for a complete Muslim immigration ban in the United States in the Republican party in order to win the GOP nomination.  He then modified his views for the general election and even more once he took office.  It runs in both parties.

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Trump said we should take out the terrorists families, bring back even worse than waterboarding, deport all 11 million illegal aliens, and called for a complete Muslim immigration ban in the United States in the Republican party in order to win the GOP nomination.  He then modified his views for the general election and even more once he took office.  It runs in both parties.

 

 

That is an oft-repeated falsehood that is way below you Doc.

 

 

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[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

That is an oft-repeated falsehood that is way below you Doc.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

When you say to 4 people of color, all of whom are citizens, 3 of whom were born and raised in the USA and I quote "who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all)" to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

 

you MUST acknowledge one of two things about the speaker regarding that particular thing he said:

 

1) He/she is a moron

 

2) He/she is a racist

You're accepting that talking point line that the President was referring to "where they came from" as being their home country.  Did it ever occur to you that he's actually talking about their congressional District?  Or did that escape you?  In the case of Rep Cummings, we're all being told he's talking about Baltimore.  Are you saying he was talking about AFRICA?

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

 

That's the most Hollywood thing I've heard year from any of the candidates.  

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

... They think you're stupid, Transplant. And you're proving they're correct.

he really is. i think he was the last fan off the Tyrod train. if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know.....

he prolly still has that Tyrod Fathead on his bedroom ceiling...

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

 

In addition to this:  we’re experiencing all time low unemployment for blacks Americans.

 

Factor that in along with the fact the President Trump doesn’t need the black vote to win the election.  That’s the reality.

 

And yet he is courting their vote like no Republican candidate ever.  He’s drawing attention to core “black” issues, and he’s solving their problems.

 

Those aren’t the acts of a racist.

 

But you know who does need the black vote to win?  Democrats.

 

Democrats will never win another Presidential election if they lose the black vote, and this terrifies them.  Lyndon Johnson promised the Democratic Party that he’d “have those n*****s voting Democrat for 100 years.” by enslaving them to the state.

 

Thats why Democrats are so desperate to paint the President as a racist every time he exposes how bad black Americans have it under them thumb of Democrats who keep them broken to keep them on the dole.

 

Adding: 

 

link to the article: https://humanevents.com/2019/08/01/donald-trump-is-no-racist/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2Fhf5muiMzWU

[Doc Brown]

Fox and Friends is defending Biden and Obama.  LOL.  That's when you know you've gone too far left.

 

Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade responded to the clip by defending Biden and suggesting he should have told Booker that he is “proud of” the Obama administration’s immigration policies because they “followed the law.”

 

“He should be proud of the fact that he said if you have a Ph.D., we should give you an easier path to stay here,” Kilmeade added. “They jumped all over him for that.”

 

After playing an interview with a former Obama staffer who called the Democratic attacks against the former president “cringe-worthy,” Ainsley Earhardt said that she could not “believe there was a firing squad against Obama.”

 

“Obama’s approval rating amongst Democrats … is 97%. They love the Obamas,” the Fox News host continued, before saying of former First Lady Michelle Obama: “She is beloved around the world.”