YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Heard from more than one source that we've been talking to OLB Smiley Redcorn out of Oregon. Possibly a UDFA pick up this weekend. I'm trying to find a link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: Heard from more than one source that we've been talking to OLB Smiley Redcorn out of Oregon. Possibly a UDFA pick up this weekend. I'm trying to find a link Is that a real player? Omg yes on name alone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Is it to early for popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 11 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: this may come back to bite this kid, may not? Drew Lock: I’d rather go No. 32 to the right team than No. 1 to a bad team Lock says he wants to go to the right team, and he thinks he might be better off developing with a good team that has a low pick than ending up on a bad team with a high pick. In fact, Lock told Don Banks of Patriots.com that he would love to be Tom Brady‘s understudy. “I’d 100 percent rather go 32nd to the right team than No. 1 to a bad team,’’ Lock said. “If that happened [being drafted by the Patriots], I’d be honored for sure. Tom’s obviously there for a couple more years, but to be able to sit behind a guy like that and learn from one of the best quarterbacks of all time — if not the best — I think that’s an ideal situation for any quarterback.’ Drew Lock: 33rd overall pick drew lock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Atlanta wants to trade to 9 for Wilkins? I know they really like him... wonder what the return would be 9 & 74 for 14, 45, & 172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Carr definitely regressed - but so did their offensive line. The year they went 12-4 they put a huge investment in O-line. Carr was sacked 51 times last year, and while his comp% went up, his TDs were down. His YPA was actually a career high, but you can't just forget about 2017 when evaluating him either. He was not very good. Seems like a Tannehill situation - His play doesn't dictate his pay. The fact that they can get out of his contract in 2020 with only a 5 mil dead cap number is important. If you like any of the QBs in this draft enough that you want to build around them, you would probably want to go for it. You don't add Trent Brown, Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams etc unless you are trying to be competitive this year, so the tank for tua method doesn't really work either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Carr definitely regressed - but so did their offensive line. The year they went 12-4 they put a huge investment in O-line. Carr was sacked 51 times last year, and while his comp% went up, his TDs were down. His YPA was actually a career high, but you can't just forget about 2017 when evaluating him either. He was not very good. Seems like a Tannehill situation - His play doesn't dictate his pay. The fact that they can get out of his contract in 2020 with only a 5 mil dead cap number is important. If you like any of the QBs in this draft enough that you want to build around them, you would probably want to go for it. You don't add Trent Brown, Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams etc unless you are trying to be competitive this year, so the tank for tua method doesn't really work either. I actually think Haskins is similar to Carr, but he’s better pre-snap and gets the ball out faster. I just think Gruden wants to draft “his guy” and is going to trade Carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Carr definitely regressed - but so did their offensive line. The year they went 12-4 they put a huge investment in O-line. Carr was sacked 51 times last year, and while his comp% went up, his TDs were down. His YPA was actually a career high, but you can't just forget about 2017 when evaluating him either. He was not very good. Seems like a Tannehill situation - His play doesn't dictate his pay. The fact that they can get out of his contract in 2020 with only a 5 mil dead cap number is important. If you like any of the QBs in this draft enough that you want to build around them, you would probably want to go for it. You don't add Trent Brown, Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams etc unless you are trying to be competitive this year, so the tank for tua method doesn't really work either. Did he really though? He threw for over 4k yards, 19 TD's, 10 INT's, and completed near 70% of his passes. All this while he had a poor O-line, and his number 1 target was dealt away. I love Josh Allen, but if he somehow produced numbers like this, we'd be giving him the key to the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, TOboy said: Did he really though? He threw for over 4k yards, 19 TD's, 10 INT's, and completed near 70% of his passes. All this while he had a poor O-line, and his number 1 target was dealt away. I love Josh Allen, but if he somehow produced numbers like this, we'd be giving him the key to the city. His avg annual salary is 8th in the league at QB, and he's... Tannehill basically. His guarantee after this year goes down to 5 million - its an ideal time to replace him and build something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TOboy said: Did he really though? He threw for over 4k yards, 19 TD's, 10 INT's, and completed near 70% of his passes. All this while he had a poor O-line, and his number 1 target was dealt away. I love Josh Allen, but if he somehow produced numbers like this, we'd be giving him the key to the city. To me, Gruden hasn’t made moves that “make sense” in a vacuum. He’s turning over the team to reflect his vision, one by one. And some of those decisions are financial driven. A new QB that is his and Mayock’s “guy” on a 5 year cost controlled deal is very much on-brand with what we’ve seen thus far Edited April 25, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: His avg annual salary is 8th in the league at QB, and he's... Tannehill basically. His guarantee after this year goes down to 5 million - its an ideal time to replace him and build something new. You might be right about the timing to replace, and it's Gruden, so who the hell knows. But I don't think Tannehill is a good comp. The guy isn't nearly as good, and he's always injured. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: To me, Gruden hasn’t made moves that “make sense” in a vacuum. He’s turning over the team to reflect his vision, one by one. And some of those decisions are financial driven. A new QB that is his and Mayock’s “guy” on a 5 year cost controlled deal is very much on-brand with what we’ve seen thus far Can't disagree with that. Gruden is gonna Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 This is the 3rd different name projected to ATL if they can move into the top 10 I hope Beane’s phone is charged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Great post!!! The first link is 100% on the money, and I have been saying this for weeks. There will be 3 receivers coming out of Alabama next season that range from very good to excellent. This is only 1 school mind you. The 2020 draft will be chock full of talent at skill positions, to the point that I hope that we trade down and pick up an extra 1st for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Murray, Haskins and Jones going in the Top 8 helps us big time EDIT: There's been push back about the Jets going for Oliver at #3. Folks are saying if they stay there which they don't want to do it might be Quinnen Williams. Edited April 25, 2019 by FeelingOnYouboty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 9 & 74 for 14, 45, & 172 I was trying to find a way to do it without the Bills giving up 74 but they’d be getting a premium. I’d rather both 4’s personally because I think day 2 is the strength of this draft. It is just too much of a premium. I think that the other option is a 3&4 from Atlanta for 9. If they have 2 3’s and 3 4’s maybe that’s better ammo to get the 4 picks in the 1st 2 days that I want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The #9 spot is looking really valuable right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I was trying to find a way to do it without the Bills giving up 74 but they’d be getting a premium. I’d rather both 4’s personally because I think day 2 is the strength of this draft. It is just too much of a premium. I think that the other option is a 3&4 from Atlanta for 9. If they have 2 3’s and 3 4’s maybe that’s better ammo to get the 4 picks in the 1st 2 days that I want? Yeah, there are ways to balance the value sheet without 74, but none of them feel reasonable to me. I don't think Atlanta wants 4 extra day 3 picks, nor do I think we want to give them all up. 112, 131, 147, and 181 are basically equal with 74 based on the Rich Hill chart. It just doesn't look normal though, feels like paying for a $20 shirt in quarters. 9, 112, 131, 147, & 181 for 14 & 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Murray, Haskins and Jones going in the Top 8 helps us big time EDIT: There's been push back about the Jets going for Oliver at #3. Folks are saying if they stay there which they don't want to do it might be Quinnen Williams. Murray goes 1 Bosa goes 2 Washington goes full Washington and trades to 3, takes Jones. Giants panic and flip with Oakland, take Haskins at 4. Tampa takes White at 5 Raiders, fully flushed with picks, takes the guy Gruden supposedly loves in Lock at 6. Bills give the Jags their 3rd and get Williams at 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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