Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 11:04 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: On the contrary, Coach Stephenson would have said the Bills showed ‘character’ with that move. Coach Bullough, however, would have noted that it took the ‘sails out of the Bills’ wind’. ? More annoying than Kelso?! Expand ?
purple haze Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 6:44 AM, billsintaiwan said: Wilbert Montgomery was a stud until he blew his knee. Bunch of early eighties rbs blew out. William Andrews and Billy Sims come to mind. Expand Billy Sims was the goods!! 1
Buffalo86 Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 Mike Quick developed patellar tendinitis, leading to reduced playing time & his retirement. And now you know the rest of the story. 2
row_33 Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 12:34 PM, fansince88 said: I would rather listen to John Murphy call a Bills Fins or Bills Jests game any day. At least he keeps you glued to the game. Expand You are a fan of the Bills and want to hear a Bills homer on the radio? shocked On 4/13/2019 at 1:31 PM, LabattBlue said: The floodgates are open. I can see it now... Hi guys! Anyone know what happened to Don Majkowski? Next day... Hi guys! Anyone know what happened to Brett Favre? Next day... Antonio Freeman Robert Brooks Bryce Paup Jimmy Bratworst Harold Sauerkraut etc... Expand Yourlife is ruined now? 1 1
BillyWhiteShows Posted April 13, 2019 Author Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 1:31 PM, LabattBlue said: The floodgates are open. I can see it now... Hi guys! Anyone know what happened to Don Majkowski? Next day... Hi guys! Anyone know what happened to Brett Favre? Next day... Antonio Freeman Robert Brooks Bryce Paup Jimmy Bratworst Harold Sauerkraut etc... Expand Heaven forbid someone asks a legit question to a well-informed community. Shame on me On 4/13/2019 at 10:55 AM, njbuff said: Perry Tuttle??? Then Tony Hunter in 83.......... Then Greg Bell in 84 (even though he wasn’t awful with the Bills, just didn’t mesh when Kelly arrived in 86). Ah, skill position busts in back to back to back drafts. Good times indeed. Expand Drew’s brother was a terrible GM
Big Turk Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 Quick forced to retire because body deserted him... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-1991-07-16-2817632-story,amp.html
BillyWhiteShows Posted April 13, 2019 Author Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 3:30 PM, matter2003 said: Quick forced to retire because body deserted him... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-1991-07-16-2817632-story,amp.html Expand Interesting but if you look at his stats his numbers were going downhill before that injury. I am certain injuries played a big role in his decline but there had to have been other factors On 4/13/2019 at 10:53 AM, CaptnCoke11 said: I must be lost.. Can someone point me in the direction of the Bills message board TBD? Expand Funny how you didn’t complain to the guy posting about Forrest Gregggg. #selectivewhining
LabattBlue Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 3:20 PM, row_33 said: Yourlife is ruined now? Expand ???
BillyWhiteShows Posted April 13, 2019 Author Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:00 PM, LabattBlue said: ??? Expand Hes criticizing you for complaining about a topic you don’t personally don’t like.
Misterbluesky Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 3:00 PM, Buffalo86 said: Mike Quick developed patellar tendinitis, leading to reduced playing time & his retirement. And now you know the rest of the story. Expand You won't find a player that enjoyed playing on that old Veterans Stadium "turf".It was like playing on concrete... 2
LabattBlue Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:03 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: Hes criticizing you for complaining about a topic you don’t personally don’t like. Expand Boo hoo. Someone doesn't like my thread. Next time maybe considering posting a question about a former Eagle on a Eagles message board. This is what happens when you need to start a thread on anything and everything that pops into your head. Carry on. I'm sure something else thread worthy will pop up any time now. 1
Albany,n.y. Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 10:44 AM, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: ??? Early 80's Bills were awesome. Seriously, those Knox teams were very good, and exciting to watch. Expand The 1980 & 1981 seasons on the field don't erase all the blunders & bad decisions made by the Bills until Bill Polian took over and why they were the NFL's laughingstock until Marv showed up in 1986. I'll start one year before the 1980s, also it should be noted that the Bills were a laughingstock in the late 1960s and mid-late 1970s. Most of this caused by Ralph's penny-pinching (I'd like to thank author Sal Maiorana and his book Relentless in aiding in the details of the accounts of some of the events below. I remembered most of them but used his book as a reference to add to the details) : 1979-The Bills become the 1st, and to this date the only, team to ever lose the top pick in the entire NFL draft to the CFL. 1980-Rather than pay him, the Bills trade future HOFer Joe DeLamielleure to Cleveland at age 29, still in his prime. He played 5 seasons with the Browns after the trade. 1981-Let's start with the draft, one of the worst in team history, led by #1 pick Booker Moore who missed his rookie year with Guillain-Barre Syndrome and whether it was the aftereffects of the disease or just that he was a bust, he was a bust. The best picks were in the 9th-11th rounds. In June Jim Haslett got so frustrated with his contract negotiations that he filed unfair labor practice charges against the Bills with the National Labor Relations Board. He later fired his agent & re-signed in August. 1982-The aforementioned Perry Tuttle blunder. Overall another horrible draft with only Eugene Marve in the 3rd round providing any long term contribution. In one of the strangest moments in Bills history the Bills cut rookie kicker Gary Anderson, who went on to a long career in the NFL and kept Nick Mike-Mayer who ended up getting cut in September. For years there have been rumors that Anderson was so upset with being drafted by the Bills that he tanked preseason so that he could get cut & picked up by the Pittsburgh Steelers. In a strike year when no games were played from late September until November 21st Joe Cribbs held out and didn't report until November 24th. 1983-Chuck Knox resigns after the 1982 season, starting the eras of Kay Stephenson & subsequently Hank Bullough. Jim Kelly is in the Bills offices talking contract and the USFL calls to tell him not to sign with the Bills. A secretary takes the call & interrupts the meeting so Kelly can talk with the USFL representative-IN THE BILLS OFFICE! He signs with the USFL and we lose 3 seasons without him before finally signing him in 1986. In July Joe Cribbs has now had enough with the Bills and signs a future contract with the USFL. He plays in 1983 and leaves for the USFL after the season. Losing him and Jim Kelly set the stage for back to back 2-14 seasons although Cribbs does return in midseason 1985. 1984-The Bills are now a laughingstock on the field as well as off it, going 2-14 and having the worst record in the NFL. 1985-In spite of having the worst record in 1984, the Bills retain coach Kay Stephenson. The Bills deal the 1st pick in the supplemental draft to Cleveland so that Cleveland can draft Bernie Kosar. Part of the deal includes sending talented LB Chip Banks to Buffalo. Banks refuses to report & the trade is revised where Banks is allowed to return to Cleveland rather than ever play for the Bills. In October the Kay Stephenson era ends with his firing and the elevation of the man who will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst head coaches in Bills history, Hank Bullough. Later in October Joe Cribbs returns from the USFL. Within a month he has become so disgruntled that he put strips of athletic tape on his locker with a sign that read "Buffalo Prison" 1986-The Bills finally started doing things right, signed Jim Kelly and under new GM Bill Polian's urging, got Ralph to loosen his wallet and put together a decent staff off the field. Of course, the Marv Levy era didn't start until after the Bills traded the multi-year disgruntled Joe Cribbs and had the embarrassment of the team's defensive players tanking in Tampa in order to get Hank Bullough fired. 2 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 3:30 PM, matter2003 said: Quick forced to retire because body deserted him... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-1991-07-16-2817632-story,amp.html Expand like so many others having injury cut short a potentially promising career....nature of the beast I guess.....
BillyWhiteShows Posted April 13, 2019 Author Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:19 PM, LabattBlue said: Boo hoo. Someone doesn't like my thread. Next time maybe considering posting a question about a former Eagle on a Eagles message board. This is what happens when you need to start a thread on anything and everything that pops into your head. Carry on. I'm sure something else thread worthy will pop up any time now. Expand So why didn’t you complain about the Forrest Gregg post?
Buffalo86 Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:15 PM, Misterbluesky said: You won't find a player that enjoyed playing on that old Veterans Stadium "turf".It was like playing on concrete... Expand That place was a dump, but I loved it.
LabattBlue Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:28 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: So why didn’t you complain about the Forrest Gregg post? Expand Do I really need to explain the difference between threads on "whatever happened to a run of the mill Eagles WR" and "an all-time HoF great passed away"?
BillyWhiteShows Posted April 13, 2019 Author Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:23 PM, Albany,n.y. said: The 1980 & 1981 seasons on the field don't erase all the blunders & bad decisions made by the Bills until Bill Polian took over and why they were the NFL's laughingstock until Marv showed up in 1986. I'll start one year before the 1980s, also it should be noted that the Bills were a laughingstock in the late 1960s and mid-late 1970s. Most of this caused by Ralph's penny-pinching (I'd like to thank author Sal Maiorana and his book Relentless in aiding in the details of the accounts of some of the events below. I remembered most of them but used his book as a reference to add to the details) : 1979-The Bills become the 1st, and to this date the only, team to ever lose the top pick in the entire NFL draft to the CFL. 1980-Rather than pay him, the Bills trade future HOFer Joe DeLamielleure to Cleveland at age 29, still in his prime. He played 5 seasons with the Browns after the trade. 1981-Let's start with the draft, one of the worst in team history, led by #1 pick Booker Moore who missed his rookie year with Guillain-Barre Syndrome and whether it was the aftereffects of the disease or just that he was a bust, he was a bust. The best picks were in the 9th-11th rounds. In June Jim Haslett got so frustrated with his contract negotiations that he filed unfair labor practice charges against the Bills with the National Labor Relations Board. He later fired his agent & re-signed in August. 1982-The aforementioned Perry Tuttle blunder. Overall another horrible draft with only Eugene Marve in the 3rd round providing any long term contribution. In one of the strangest moments in Bills history the Bills cut rookie kicker Gary Anderson, who went on to a long career in the NFL and kept Nick Mike-Mayer who ended up getting cut in September. For years there have been rumors that Anderson was so upset with being drafted by the Bills that he tanked preseason so that he could get cut & picked up by the Pittsburgh Steelers. In a strike year when no games were played from late September until November 21st Joe Cribbs held out and didn't report until November 24th. 1983-Chuck Knox resigns after the 1982 season, starting the eras of Kay Stephenson & subsequently Hank Bullough. Jim Kelly is in the Bills offices talking contract and the USFL calls to tell him not to sign with the Bills. A secretary takes the call & interrupts the meeting so Kelly can talk with the USFL representative-IN THE BILLS OFFICE! He signs with the USFL and we lose 3 seasons without him before finally signing him in 1986. In July Joe Cribbs has now had enough with the Bills and signs a future contract with the USFL. He plays in 1983 and leaves for the USFL after the season. Losing him and Jim Kelly set the stage for back to back 2-14 seasons although Cribbs does return in midseason 1985. 1984-The Bills are now a laughingstock on the field as well as off it, going 2-14 and having the worst record in the NFL. 1985-In spite of having the worst record in 1984, the Bills retain coach Kay Stephenson. The Bills deal the 1st pick in the supplemental draft to Cleveland so that Cleveland can draft Bernie Kosar. Part of the deal includes sending talented LB Chip Banks to Buffalo. Banks refuses to report & the trade is revised where Banks is allowed to return to Cleveland rather than ever play for the Bills. In October the Kay Stephenson era ends with his firing and the elevation of the man who will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst head coaches in Bills history, Hank Bullough. Later in October Joe Cribbs returns from the USFL. Within a month he has become so disgruntled that he put strips of athletic tape on his locker with a sign that read "Buffalo Prison" 1986-The Bills finally started doing things right, signed Jim Kelly and under new GM Bill Polian's urging, got Ralph to loosen his wallet and put together a decent staff off the field. Of course, the Marv Levy era didn't start until after the Bills traded the multi-year disgruntled Joe Cribbs and had the embarrassment of the team's defensive players tanking in Tampa in order to get Hank Bullough fired. Expand According to my research the Bills has 3 GM’s during this time period. Ralph couldn’t hire the right person. It just shows how he lucked into Bill Polian On 4/13/2019 at 4:35 PM, LabattBlue said: Do I really need to explain the difference between threads on "whatever happened to a run of the mill Eagles WR" and "an all-time HoF great passed away"? Expand Move on.... I’ve taken this to PM
cba fan Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:25 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: like so many others having injury cut short a potentially promising career....nature of the beast I guess..... Expand Eagles effectively lost their quickness.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:37 PM, cba fan said: Eagles effectively lost their quickness. Expand kinda like a "Quick exit" I presume??......just askin'............ 1
Misterbluesky Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 4:35 PM, Buffalo86 said: That place was a dump, but I loved it. Expand I heard they had a actual jail in the basement...or maybe that was the old Giant stadium? But yes..Veterans had the worst field in those days and they had massive seams on the turf to cover up where the base areas were (Phillies).
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