The Mueller Report. BREAKING NEWS: AG’s Summary Report Released. NO COLLUSION!

[3rdnlng]

The TDS people in Congress and the MSM are insisting that Mueller's report be handed over or released in its entirety. It's a red herring. They know damn well that some things will have to be redacted or Barr's report will leave them out for legal reasons. This is their way of discrediting Mueller's report, all for the sake of saying that bad things are being hidden. Has it ever been more apparent that theseshits care more about their politics than their country?

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

But, if Trump conspired in a chargeable way, the co-conspirators would have been named in Muellers final report

 

Correct. 

 

We know there is no obstruction case or collusion/conspiracy case in any of the filed indictments thus far. 

 

Trump/Russia was never real. You and the country were lied to for two plus years by major figures in media and our federal government. 

 

You should never trust or read the sources that made you fall for this hoax again. They are poison who think you're too stupid to see through their deception. 

 

Prove them wrong. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

You should never trust or read the sources that made you fall for this hoax again. They are poison who think you're too stupid to see through their deception. 

 

So, the entire "free press," then?

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The palace coup plotters - that's what this was and that's what you've been supporting vocally for two plus years - will now face justice for Fisa abuse and working with foreign intelligence services to overturn an election (the exact same thing you and others have claimed trump did with Russia - which was always a lie). 

 

Those are big names:

Comey is *****. 

McCabe is *****. 

Strzok is *****. 

Power is *****. 

Nellie Ohr is *****. 

Clapper is *****. 

Brennan is *****.

Schiff is *****. 

Warner is *****. 

Schumer is *****. 

Paul Ryan is *****.

Feinstein is *****. 

Pelosi is *****.  

David Kramer is *****. 

Glenn Simpson is *****. 

Lynch is *****. 

Kerry is *****. 

Both Clintons are *****. 

Both Podestas are *****. 

And Obama is *****. 

 

And the people will never trust or take seriously any of the media pushers who've lied to them for two plus years:

Maddow

Wallace

Habberman

Corn

Isakoff

Cooper

Tapper

Scuitto

Shep Smith

Abramson

Just to name a few. 

 

 

Pain coming for them all. They will be ash when it's over. Traitors. Every single one of them. 

 

 

 

From your lips... er, keyboard to... eh forget it.

I am hopeful that you are correct, but I am not optimistic. We are going to soon see if the MSM is redeemable and will report on the upcoming proceedings, and exactly who is "untouchable". 
 

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He sure has energized the left, that is good. And when he is swept out of office in 2020 I'll be sure and thank him for energizing Democratic voters. He has also shown that the founding fathers built a pretty good system to contain a really bad executive. 

no disrespect Tibs but... this is a disingenuous post of *****ery to a direct question.

[Bob in Mich]

8 minutes ago, Foxx said:

congratulations, you're turning the corner. everyone has to start someplace. just remain objective in your analysis and for god's sake, do not buy the MSM narrative, hook line and sinker.

 

Not turning any corners if that implies buying into the right’s massive coup conspiracy. I will continue to remain objective though

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

But, if Trump conspired in a chargeable way, the co-conspirators would have been named in Muellers final report

Did the prosecutors think ahead on this one and worry about the pardon power, though? A pardon would close the books on this, so maybe they are biding their time. But I'm just speculating, we will have to wait and see. But nothing is definitive yet. 

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

But, if Trump conspired in a chargeable way, the co-conspirators would have been named in Muellers final report

Now someone's thinking.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Not turning any corners if that implies buying into the right’s massive coup conspiracy. I will continue to remain objective though

 

BAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Bob in Mich said:

 

Not turning any corners if that implies buying into the right’s massive coup conspiracy. I will continue to remain objective though

You do not have to buy into anything. If you look to the source documents (right now it is testimony), it is laid out for you to see.

BTW, I am not "right" or "conservative". ? 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

no disrespect Tibs but... this is a disingenuous post of *****ery to a direct question.

Fine, well, I do not think Trump has done anything policy wise that is worthy of him being respected. Better? 

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh? That's not what the judge said who sentenced him, he said the only reason he was in court was because they wanted him to talk about the president, which he didn't do. He's hoping for a pardon. Manafort then lied about all the things they asked about the Russia conspiracy, why would that be? 

that's not what happened. you are attempting to quote out of context.

 

repeat, he was not convicted of anything related to Russian collusion. there simply was none.

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

that's not what happened. you are attempting to quote out of context.

 

repeat, he was not convicted of anything related to Russian collusion. there simply was none.

Trump tower meeting was collusion. So there was some. 

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Not turning any corners if that implies buying into the right’s massive coup conspiracy. I will continue to remain objective though

it was a comment directly pointed at the belief that Trump committed collusion with Russia.

 

since you brought it up though, can i ask what you don't believe about the coup conspiracy? i mean, there is beginning to be an overwhelming amount of evidence being revealed that is pointing to exactly that. your thoughts are appreciated.

[3rdnlng]

The reason Paul Manafort was brought into the Trump campaign was for the sole purpose of helping with a brokered convention. His duties and length of stay were limited and to characterize him as Trump's campaign manager is dubious.

[Foxx]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Fine, well, I do not think Trump has done anything policy wise that is worthy of him being respected. Better? 

yes, better. i can, while not agreeing, respect this reply.

[Chef Jim]

15 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah they should.  You'd have to make the leap that Trump's intelligent enough to be a Russian secret agent in the first place.

 

Well smart enough to get away with it. Just as W wasn’t smart enough to “mastermind” 911

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump tower meeting was collusion. So there was some. 

may i ask in what way you think it was collusion and apparently Mueller did not?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

The reason Paul Manafort was brought into the Trump campaign was for the sole purpose of helping with a brokered convention. His duties and length of stay were limited and to characterize him as Trump's campaign manager is dubious.

A sure, the totally corrupt guy with ties to Russian leaders was the only person in the world who could help with the convention. And he WAS Trumps official campaign manager until the media found out about his Russian ties! He sits in jail now. 

 

He would not tell the truth even after promising to do so for a lighter sentence, on issues concerning Russia. 

[Foxx]

https://twitter.com/edhenry/status/1109481475232141312

 

 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Foxx said:

may i ask in what way you think it was collusion and apparently Mueller did not?

We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump tower meeting was collusion. So there was some. 

 

 

So any "meeting" is collusion? 

 

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound?

 

President elects probably meet with 100 or so officials from other countries, does that mean there were 100 "collusions"

 

 

[Foxx]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. 

so, you are saying your previous post where you claimed the Trump Tower meeting was collusion was a faux pas on your behalf?

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. 

LOL

 

He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something.

 

Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

LOL

 

He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something.

 

Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard

No, actually, we have to wait for the report. You must be too stupid to understand that. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

All you need to know about this report is, it was issued at 5 o'clock on a Friday evening, trying to get buried ASAP, CLASSIC.

 

Funny, on the one hand Trump is supposed to be some idiot that can't control himself, then how is it he could trick all these investigators, only a genius could pull that off. You cant have it both ways.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Foxx said:

so, you are saying your previous post where you claimed the Trump Tower meeting was collusion was a faux pas on your behalf?

No, that was collusion, why Mueller has not charged it as a crime is something we will have to wait and see about. Ok? 

[Chef Jim]

41 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

 I will certainly admit that I expected new indictments related to Russian conspiracy and obstruction of justice at the conclusion. 

 

 

Congrats on being one of the lone adults in the room. But I have to use my favorite one word question with regards to the above quoted statement.  Why?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

All you need to know about this report is, it was issued at 5 o'clock on a Friday evening, trying to get buried ASAP, CLASSIC.

 

Funny, on the one hand Trump is supposed to be some idiot that can't control himself, then how is it he could trick all these investigators, only a genius could pull that off. You cant have it both ways.

You can't indict a sitting president. If you could he would already be indicted for paying hush money to a porn star. Love your conspiracy minded nonsense though. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, that was collusion, why Mueller has not charged it as a crime is something we will have to wait and see about. Ok? 

LOL, cant give it up, so sad, so delusional.

 

All the leaks of all the "evil " things Trump has been accused of the last two years and SUDDENLY, the report is finished and there are NO NEGATIVE leaks?  A miracle i tell you, a miracle.

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You can't indict a sitting president. If you could he would already be indicted for paying hush money to a porn star. Love your conspiracy minded nonsense though. 

 Paying hush money to a porn star to cover up sex is not a crime, you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

 

By the way, you do realize the congress has their own slush fund to pay off sexual harassment claims?

 

Try again, you are wrong.

Edited March 23, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive

[Chef Jim]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. 

 

And if you are wrong will you admit it??

 

Beahahahahaha!!!  

 

I crack myself up. 

[snafu]

24 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

LOL

 

He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something.

 

Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard

 

Or both.  Don’t forget that option. 

[Chef Jim]

Sorry but anytime I can slide some UM

in a thread I’m going to. Especially from a show where I’m front and center. 

 

 

 

Let this become memory
The worst is yet to come
And all these points we've argued
We still agree on some
And when all faith is lost 
Is it alright to laugh

You can lead with all new lines
If you believe in what you say
And life can be just as you make it

Believe the lie and it will all come true

If you believe in every lie
You're never free to walk away
You should be free to go today

Believe the lie and it will all come true

So lets pretend you're listening
And all the rules get stretched
Who's the first to turn their back
Revealing not their best
And finally right reaction
It's like floating on a raft

[Bob in Mich]

25 minutes ago, Foxx said:

it was a comment directly pointed at the belief that Trump committed collusion with Russia.

 

since you brought it up though, can i ask what you don't believe about the coup conspiracy? i mean, there is beginning to be an overwhelming amount of evidence being revealed that is pointing to exactly that. your thoughts are appreciated.

 

Several problems with the coup conspiracy

1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election?  If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they?   If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts

 

2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune?

 

3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup

[Taro T]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1109244157023924225

 

 

His colluding with Mueller would be 1 way for him to know there was nothing there.

 

Or, having been involved back in '16, his 1st hand knowlegde of the original investigation could be another way for him to know there was nothing there.

[RoyBatty is alive]

41 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Several problems with the coup conspiracy

1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election?  If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they?   If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts

 

2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune?

 

3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup

 

I am not saying I believe in any coup conspiracy but the possibility does exist and should be explored.  Drag all those people up in front of Congress and make them testify.  Get it over with one way or the other so please can stop screaming about the "coup".  This Sean Hannity is obsessed with it.  No dragging it out for 2 years like this damn Mueller report.

 

 1) Just because they didnt succeed doesnt mean they  didnt happen and the "coup" if you wlil extends post-election meaning embarrass him force Trump out , make him quit with the golden shower idiocy and the Russian collusion.

 

2) Disagree.  Actually there arent way too many, it would not take several hundred, no with all the lower level operative maybe 20 and a handful at the top is all needed.

 

3) That is a solid point but it should be investigated esp when one of them supposedly wanted to wear a wire and spy on a duly elected president, non-elected govt burueacrats trying to overturn an election should concern Americans.  ANd those screaming coup go way beyond just what Rosenstein & McCabe were doing.  Lets just get the whole thing out and get over with it, make them all testify.

Edited March 23, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

Time's almost up, John. 

 

No one should ever take a word this man says seriously again. He's a liar. He's a traitor. He's murdered american journalists. 

 

***** him and his masters. 

[Bob in Mich]

56 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Congrats on being one of the lone adults in the room. But I have to use my favorite one word question with regards to the above quoted statement.  Why?

 

In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies?  Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged?  If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie.  Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts?

 

As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning.

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies?  Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged?  If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie.  Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts?

 

As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning.

You can easily add to your list of questions: Why believe Putin over our intelligence agencies, why the parroting of Russian propaganda, why change the GOP platform about Russia, why the criticize NATO, why fire Comey over this Russia thing, why the screaming over Session recusing himself, why private meeting with Putin with no advisors, no notes and why all the dragging of feet over sanctions. 

[Deranged Rhino]

26 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Several problems with the coup conspiracy

1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election?  If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they?   If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts

 

I know you tuned me out over a year ago, but you should really go back through my evidence. It's all there, and these questions are answered. 

 

This entire narrative began when Admiral Mike Rogers exposed an illegal spy ring inside the DOJ/FBI designed to spy on 44's political opponents. Rogers ordered an internal audit and demanded explanations (legal explanations) for why government contractors inside the FBI/DOJ had been running illegal 702 searches on NSA servers. 

 

Trump/Russia was created to explain away those crimes - while simultaneously helping to turn the surveillance spigot back on (which meant creating enough "evidence" to get a FISA warrant on someone in Trump's circle). The plan, during the election, was to concoct and spread this phony Russian collusion/conspiracy nonsense to taint Trump with scandal and help HRC win the election. Once she won, which they were sure she would, she would sweep it all under the rug and the illegal spying operation would continue as before.

 

When Trump won, that's when the plan turned into a coup. They HAD to launch a coup because each and every one of them - including Obama himself - were now open and exposed to serious legal peril because of the crimes they had been committing inside the DOJ/FBI against their political opposition. Not just Trump - but every campaign in 2016 was under their watch. And likely every campaign in 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008... 

 

They TRIED to ruin Trump. But Trump had an ace up his sleeve: 

 

He had Mike Rogers and the Military Intelligence wing of the DoD supporting him and running a counterintelligence sting. Trump was protected by master spies who chose him to run precisely to defeat this group of corrupt intelligence and political officials who had hijacked our government and country years ago. 

 

That's the real story. 

 

And it's backed by evidence. 

 

33 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune?

 

It's not too many conspirators. It's less than 100, in key positions within the machinery of the USIC, DOJ, FBI and White House. They were FORCED to try this gambit because of what was exposed by Adm Rogers above. They were forced into a corner by Rogers, and led directly into a trap. 

 

Why didn't "some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off"? Because the corporate media is hand in hand with the USIC and compromised. Plenty of people tried to blow the lid off - hundreds of citizen journalists (including this one) worked for two years exposing it. In return we were called Putin supporters. Traitors. Trump lovers. And every name in the book. Just read the Russian threads back in 2017 and see for yourself. 

 

The conditioning and propaganda was THICK because we are (still) in a (dis)information war. 

 

36 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup

 

That wasn't the coup attempt. The coup attempt was what was described above. 

 

Again, I know you tuned me out awhile ago. You should reconsider that decision and go back through my posts (and others) and see for yourself. This whole farce was exposed in 2017... two years ago. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies?  Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged?  If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie.  Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts?

 

As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning.

 

Because this is a (dis)information war. Trump was being attacked not just by the media and political opponents, but by the most invasive and powerful surveillance tools in existence, wielded by corrupt intelligence officials from multiple countries. 

 

When you're fighting shadows, you don't fight them head on. That's how you end up dead. 

 

You have to fight them on their terms. Baiting them into traps designed to expose them to the general public. Trump spent years bashing Mueller and Sessions - none of those are real sentiments or tweets. They're misdirection designed to build support for Mueller - the man he knew would exonerate him in the end.