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Just now, The_Dude said:

 

The right environment would be me, Jack, guns n ammo, and 1000 acres of nothing. 

 

Also, have you been high? You know it’s not like you’re halucinating, right?

 

sure, i am a stoner from way back. i can't remember the last time i imbibed though, it has been a good number of years. with that said, it does impair one ability. the degree to which it does is probably debatable though.

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48 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Just a friendly reminder that the use of cannabis plants as mind-altering drugs originates in the Islamic world.  

 

By all means, let's start the introduction of Islamic law and culture with legalizing marijuana, right @The_Dude?

 

Again, not true. What census gave you this gem?

 

It’s like we need to fact-check everything you say because you’re always making things up. Seriously, the next time you wanna spout a fun-fact, Google it first so you don’t look so foolish. 

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2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

actually, the never expanding nanny-state is running out of revenue sources and making pot legal is just another blatant money grab to line their coffers. do you honestly think they care what the plebs want?

 

No.  This is why it's only legal in places where they let the citizens decide by citizen's initiative.

 

I live in Washington and that's how it got passed here.  The state legislature passed it a few years earlier but the Governor refused to sign it.

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55 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Having weed illegal because it's bad for us (allegedly) is the definition of the nanny state.  I love to see these personal responsibility freedom types on here being against it.  LOL.

 

I don't like drunks but I don't think alcohol should be illegal.

 

Bottom line is the people want it, it's just the politicians with pockets lined with pharmaceutical and alcohol industry and private prisons money that don't want it.

 

In almost every state they have let the voters decide it's passed.

 

 

Yeah it’s ridiculous that conservatives advocate for the continued prohibition. Ignorance and hypocrisy. 

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32 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Yeah it’s ridiculous that conservatives advocate for the continued prohibition. Ignorance and hypocrisy. 

 

I think a lot of people would like the freedom to drive as fast as they want any time anywhere and would be willing to pay a tax for that privilege.  Should we do that too?  Sure a few more people will die and there will be some extra cost to administer that right, but shouldn't we consider it in the name of freedom? 

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1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

 

I think a lot of people would like the freedom to drive as fast as they want any time anywhere and would be willing to pay a tax for that privilege.  Should we do that too?  Sure a few more people will die and there will be some extra cost to administer that right, but shouldn't we consider it in the name of freedom? 

 

This is a horrible point, though I’m sure you find it valid. 

 

1. Speed limits are for government roads. The government owns them. They can control them. 

 

2. What I’m advocating for is a man to grow whatever flowers he wants on his property, and to do with his flowers what he pleases on his property. That is not me advocating for somebody to get high and drive which is irresponsible and is something I do not do, nor have I ever. 

 

3. By your logic it’s a short road to gun control. 

 

4. You cannot come up with a reason why you should have any say as to what flowers I have in my house. 

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2 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

How is society enhanced by legalization of marijuana?

Will highway traffic deaths rise?

Will law enforcement costs rise?

Will use of other more dangerous drugs also rise?

Are there health risks for long term use and what will that cost both users and non-users?

Will academic and work performance fall?

 

Don't give me the alcohol argument.  I'm interested in knowing if legalizing this is a net negative or net positive for our society. 

What marijuana stock benefits the most from legalization?

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8 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

This is a horrible point, though I’m sure you find it valid. 

 

1. Speed limits are for government roads. The government owns them. They can control them. 

 

2. What I’m advocating for is a man to grow whatever flowers he wants on his property, and to do with his flowers what he pleases on his property. That is not me advocating for somebody to get high and drive which is irresponsible and is something I do not do, nor have I ever. 

 

3. By your logic it’s a short road to gun control. 

 

4. You cannot come up with a reason why you should have any say as to what flowers I have in my house. 

cool, so i can grow and cultivate poppy?

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40 minutes ago, Foxx said:

cool, so i can grow and cultivate poppy?

 

No, because while extremely legal, heroin kills people. 

 

Heroi is bad for you. 

 

Id love to see all heroin dealers get the death penalty. 

 

31 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I hope his neighbor plants corpse flowers.  

 

Yes, because a decade later, if I’m home, I’d be subjected to about 20 minutes of a foul odor. That’d show me. Or something. 

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

What marijuana stock benefits the most from legalization?

  Long term?  None.  It will be a commodity just like corn or wheat.  It will be over produced to the point of being near worthless just like corn and wheat have been for most of the last 100 plus years in the US.  All the regulations and licensing will not prevent overproduction.  I listened to a news report yesterday that said that the black market is adapting well in states where it is legal.  If I were a financial advisor IF you wanted in as an investor my advice would be to get back out within a year or two years at the latest before the suckers figure out pot is not a magical profit industry.  Now to build my time machine to go back to 1986 to tell myself to buy 100 shares of Microsoft (of which I had the money then to do so) at the IPO.  Or better yet tell myself that the years 1983-1986 should all be about earning money to put into Microsoft.

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1 hour ago, The_Dude said:

...2. What I’m advocating for is a man to grow whatever flowers he wants on his property, and to do with his flowers what he pleases on his property. ...

 

51 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

No, because while extremely legal, heroin kills people. 

 

Heroi is bad for you. 

 

Id love to see all heroin dealers get the death penalty.  ...

 

but, but you just said.... 'whatever flower i want... and do with it what i want....'.

 

some arbiter of truth you turned out to be.

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7 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

That doesn’t ruin and kill people. 

i dunno... we had this good bud one time and smoked with a girl at work who had, 'tried it' before. she flipped out. they called an ambulance and we got fired. i hear the strains today are even more potent..

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10 minutes ago, Foxx said:

i dunno... we had this good bud one time and smoked with a girl at work who had, 'tried it' before. she flipped out. they called an ambulance and we got fired. i hear the strains today are even more potent..

 

That is crazy. I’ve gotten a little paranoid before but not like that. 

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2 hours ago, The_Dude said:

 

This is a horrible point, though I’m sure you find it valid. 

 

1. Speed limits are for government roads. The government owns them. They can control them. 

 

2. What I’m advocating for is a man to grow whatever flowers he wants on his property, and to do with his flowers what he pleases on his property. That is not me advocating for somebody to get high and drive which is irresponsible and is something I do not do, nor have I ever. 

 

 

 

But people will get high and drive and injure and kill some people and it will happen more if it's legalized. 

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1 hour ago, The_Dude said:

 

No, because while extremely legal, heroin kills people. 

 

Heroi is bad for you. 

 

Id love to see all heroin dealers get the death penalty. 

 

 

Yes, because a decade later, if I’m home, I’d be subjected to about 20 minutes of a foul odor. That’d show me. Or something. 

You might want to reword that.

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9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

But people will get high and drive and injure and kill some people and it will happen more if it's legalized. 

  Already a rise in pot related traffic mishaps in states such as Colorado.  Probably early yet to know how DUI pot driving impacts serious injuries long term.  A problem is pot on average is far more potent than it was a generation ago.  A person today probably is much more buzzed versus 40 years ago due to supply.

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21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You might want to reword that.

 

It’s worded as intended. Heroin is legal. Loads of it at your local pharmacy. 

26 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

But people will get high and drive and injure and kill some people and it will happen more if it's legalized. 

 

There have been solid studies done on colorado. You should look into them. 

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40 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Already a rise in pot related traffic mishaps in states such as Colorado.  Probably early yet to know how DUI pot driving impacts serious injuries long term.  A problem is pot on average is far more potent than it was a generation ago.  A person today probably is much more buzzed versus 40 years ago due to supply.

Smoking pot and driving shouldn't be such a bad thing. It's hard to do any damage at 11 mph.

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5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Smoking pot and driving shouldn't be such a bad thing. It's hard to do any damage at 11 mph.

 

I do NOT condone it.  

 

However, I am truly intrested in microdosing soldiers before combat. I think it could be advantageous.  

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2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Unless you go through an intersection not realizing your light was red and somebody T-bones you.

 

Right. Nobody has the right to drive intoxicated. 

 

I have friends who swear being high doesnt effect their driving. I will NOT. Nobody has the right to put my family at risk by driving under the influence, and I don’t have that right either. Nobody does. 

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3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Unless you go through an intersection not realizing your light was red and somebody T-bones you.

I was being facetious.

8 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

How would viagra be advantageous? 

Some of the elite fighting units take it to increase blood flow while in action.

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53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I was being facetious.

Some of the elite fighting units take it to increase blood flow while in action.

 

I never heard of that. I’m not sure that’s true. Especially when there are a plethora of products like NoXplode that do the same thing. 

 

By the way, NoXplode poos are the worst. One second you’re fine, the next you’re about to explode. 

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On 3/1/2019 at 3:37 PM, The_Dude said:

 

Right. Nobody has the right to drive intoxicated. 

 

I have friends who swear being high doesnt effect their driving. I will NOT. Nobody has the right to put my family at risk by driving under the influence, and I don’t have that right either. Nobody does. 

 

Yes, and those people are called "idiots".   I'm sure they also think they drive 'better' after a couple drinks.

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46 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yes, and those people are called "idiots".   I'm sure they also think they drive 'better' after a couple drinks.

 

They state they stay in their lane well, it’s the speed limit that’s the issue. They’ll be driving 25 in a 50. 

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56 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

They state they stay in their lane well, it’s the speed limit that’s the issue. They’ll be driving 25 in a 50. 

 

There you go....pot zones you out, reduces your reflex times.  Not good things when operating several thousand pounds of machinery at high speeds.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Am I missing something, or is this a debate about nothing?

 

The Feds don't control state drug laws, so what difference does it make what the President thinks about it?

 

There are Federal laws and regulations to consider.  Granted most of those fall under Congressional jurisdiction.  But in the age of the Obamaian Presidency, legislative authority can be easily overruled by the Pen and the Phone

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