BuffaloRebound Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Apparently Kyler was at St Elmo’s last night and our local radio host was standing next to him who said he’s been 5’10 his whole life and is now 40. He said he was taller than Kyler standing next to him. He said he’s absolutely shocked he’s measured over 5’10. He said from talking to people at the combine, the hype is out of control on Murray and it’s all based on mayfield’s success. Guy sounds like a nut job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Oof. 166 for Brown is rough... hopefully that’s a result of the injury. It's slightly heavier than expected actually lol. NFL teams thought he was 160 at the beginning of the year (also had him pegged like 1.5" taller than he is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It's slightly heavier than expected actually lol. NFL teams thought he was 160 at the beginning of the year (also had him pegged like 1.5" taller than he is) The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Guy sounds like a nut job. Well he’s a huuuge Browns homer. Over the top. So he does drive me nuts a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. Tyreek is much thicker though, like 185. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: what the hell is 6033 and 6036? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: what the hell is 6033 and 6036? 6’3 3/8 6’3 6/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, DCOrange said: OH MY WORD! He's not lasting till #9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: OH MY WORD! He's not lasting till #9 Just wait until he runs the 40 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. And that’s who he should be compared to in terms of both size and the baseball background that allows him to run “smart” and slide - Wilson. But hand size difference - Wilson’s were over 10, and Wilson had much more playing experience (as did Baker) Edited February 28, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: OH MY WORD! He's not lasting till #9 That's incredible to me. The guy looks like an athlete for sure, but geez. He averaged 3.5 receptions per game in less than 2 full college seasons. He's had a grand total 5 games (out of 21) in which he had 5 or more receptions, and they came against South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin, Kentucky (ok, that's a good one), South Illinois, and Kent State. In contrast, he's had 3 or fewer receptions in 10 of 21 games. It's a draft pick that's based purely upon potential and not production, which is okay if you're a team that can afford to be wrong about him. But if you're a team like Buffalo, and you're picking a WR at No. 9 overall, then you need that guy to be a stud. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: That's incredible to me. The guy looks like an athlete for sure, but geez. He averaged 3.5 receptions per game in less than 2 full college seasons. He's had a grand total 5 games (out of 21) in which he had 5 or more receptions, and they came against South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin, Kentucky (ok, that's a good one), South Illinois, and Kent State. In contrast, he's had 3 or fewer receptions in 10 of 21 games. It's a draft pick that's based purely upon potential and not production, which is okay if you're a team that can afford to be wrong about him. But if you're a team like Buffalo, and you're picking a WR at No. 9 overall, then you need that guy to be a stud. Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills. Edited February 28, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown. I actually think that DK may end up a really good football player, but right now he's an athlete that's playing football, and I have a really hard time picking those guys early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills. Yeah, I am fine being wrong, and I don't have as strong a feeling as I have about others in the past, but I really don't love Metcalf... I think he's a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills. I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot. Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers. Odd system. IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen. That first play of the game against Alabama... yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot. Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers. Odd system. IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen. That first play of the game against Alabama... yes please. We really need a slot WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Tyree winning the #handsize game: Charles RobinsonVerified account @CharlesRobinson 19s20 seconds ago More #NFLCombine key measurements thread… 143. #Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson Height: 6-7 Weight: 249 Hand: 10 2/8 Arm: 34 2/8 Wingspan: 83 6/8 3 minutes ago, SWATeam said: I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot. Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers. Odd system. IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen. That first play of the game against Alabama... yes please. When I think about DK and Allen, I keep coming back to this: what does DK give Allen that N'Keal Harry--who you can probably get early on day 2--doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: We really need a slot WR I'm hoping Zay is that guy. But yeah, tough to really count on him completely at this point. But I think the real need is on the outside. 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Tyree winning the #handsize game: Charles RobinsonVerified account @CharlesRobinson 19s20 seconds ago More #NFLCombine key measurements thread… 143. #Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson Height: 6-7 Weight: 249 Hand: 10 2/8 Arm: 34 2/8 Wingspan: 83 6/8 When I think about DK and Allen, I keep coming back to this: what does DK give Allen that N'Keal Harry--who you can probably get early on day 2--doesn't? That's easy, speed and the ability to seperate. DK is a freak. Harry isn't, love his hands though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We really need a slot WR Sometimes I think this, and then sometimes I don't.. I really can't keep track of way Jones is supposed to play, and I don't much care for him anyways. It seems that the prototypical WR ideas are being busted here lately, but I don't know how to take that. Do we need a height guy? Do we need a possession guy? Do we need another speed guy? I don't see anyone in the draft who checks all the boxes and can run every route and make every play. 3 minutes ago, SWATeam said: I'm hoping Zay is that guy. But yeah, tough to really count on him completely at this point. But I think the real need is on the outside. That's easy, speed and the ability to seperate. DK is a freak. Harry isn't, love his hands though. Seperation is important, but at the pro level it needs to be done with more than just speed. Route running creates seperation at this level- speed helps. The knock on DK (at least some that I have seen, for what that's worth) is that he's unpolished and a sloppy route runner. I don't like that much. Edited February 28, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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