Doc Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes! I am laying out a defense plan for these people! Me! I am charging a huge hourly too! Anyway, Ms. Badcock quotes the specific challenges Kraft's lawyers made regarding this particular video warrant. But it's time for another easy question: if the video and its warrant were obtained illegally, should that not be a factor in defense of any charge? Would you tell your lawyers in this situation: "just let it go"? (hint: you've already given your answer). And NOW you're talking about "the video being obtained properly"? You mean "the oldest 'trick' in the book" may prove that it wasn't? LOL. You spent days saying that the DA could threaten these guys with just releasing the video as leverage for them to cop a plea----but NOW you are finally qualifying it with ""if it was obtained properly". As I have said many times, it takes a while....but you always come around. Should the legality of the video be a factor? Was Bobby entrapped into getting a handie? If not, (and he wasn't) then the answer is "no." The place was under surveillance for human trafficking and sex slavery, like many other massage parlors have been, and Bobby got caught. It was bad luck but Bobby put himself in that situation and has no one else to blame. Now let me ask you a simple question: do you think he should get off on a technicality? I'm not asking whether he should try just if he should. And if he does, will you be outraged? Given your diatribes against Bills players who ran afoul of the law and tried to get off, I know what your answer should be. Yeah I mentioned awhile ago that "hey, there's always a chance..." the video might be ruled inadmissible. But I don't think it will be and apparently neither does the DA since he's not offering any more plea deals. Edited April 5, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Kraft was just born too soon-15 years from now guys just like Kraft will be handled by sex robots and trafficked persons will struggle to find a customer base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Toesy said: Kraft was just born too soon-15 years from now guys just like Kraft will be handled by sex robots and trafficked persons will struggle to find a customer base. No, guys like Kraft want to be serviced at massage parlors. With his money he could get the best living escorts and get his freak on in private, instead of at a type of place known to get raided just for stuff like this. Edited April 5, 2019 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Doc said: Yup. It's entertaining! Yup. Waste of time and money for what is an obvious case. It's a waste of time, money, and attention for what amounts to a speeding ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: It's a waste of time, money, and attention for what amounts to a speeding ticket. Yup. But this is all about preventing the video tape from being seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. But this is all about preventing the video tape from being seen. The world is a better place if the video is never seen. I’m pretty sure about THAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Augie said: The world is a better place if the video is never seen. I’m pretty sure about THAT! I don't want to see them, but they should be made public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, boater said: UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 ...great to see Miami's top cops have cleaned up the city 100% to devote resources to this heinous occurrence....support zero tolerance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) On 4/4/2019 at 5:34 PM, Doc said: No, guys like Kraft want to be serviced at massage parlors. With his money he could get the best living escorts and get his freak on in private, instead of at a type of place known to get raided just for stuff like this. people with money and brains, do not always go Hand in Hand. Edited April 13, 2019 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 It boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It boggles the mind. Yeah, I can't wrap my head around it. Edited April 13, 2019 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, boater said: UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. Breitbart? Well there you go! Nothing to see here. Wasn't the spa owner a fixture at Mar-a-Lago? Weren't Krafty Bob and the Donald tight? Funny how it all works out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Breitbart? Well there you go! Nothing to see here. Wasn't the spa owner a fixture at Mar-a-Lago? Weren't Krafty Bob and the Donald tight? Funny how it all works out in the end. The former spa owner was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 6:55 AM, Mr. WEO said: Yes! I am laying out a defense plan for these people! Me! I am charging a huge hourly too! Anyway, Ms. Badcock quotes the specific challenges Kraft's lawyers made regarding this particular video warrant. But it's time for another easy question: if the video and its warrant were obtained illegally, should that not be a factor in defense of any charge? Would you tell your lawyers in this situation: "just let it go"? (hint: you've already given your answer). And NOW you're talking about "the video being obtained properly"? You mean "the oldest 'trick' in the book" may prove that it wasn't? LOL. You spent days saying that the DA could threaten these guys with just releasing the video as leverage for them to cop a plea----but NOW you are finally qualifying it with ""if it was obtained properly". As I have said many times, it takes a while....but you always come around. Is WEO defending the patriots again? I want to get the cliff notes version of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Doc said: You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, bbb said: "...shot dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwn..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... That is Kraft's problem.. trophy GFs. Trophy GF come with strings attached. Some come with heavy cabling attached. Dude just wants NSA relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, boater said: That is Kraft's problem.. trophy GFs. Trophy GF come with strings attached. Some come with heavy cabling attached. Dude just wants NSA relief. Again like I asked, what's wrong with an escort at a private location? No strings, discretion and a place that won't get raided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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