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38 minutes ago, row_33 said:

Today on the subway I will likely be approached by a panhandler, I usually have no change so I make eye contact and try to nicely say no... sorry....

 

if  it escalates I will let loose with a very loud Glaswegian-tinged ***** OFF!!!

 

How much they askin for? About tree fiddy? You tell that monster “hell naw!”

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33 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Um....have you had a chance to catch up on the news in the past 48 hours that shows they weren’t really doing anything dastardly? 

 

there presence at the event was intended to be provacative

 

did you miss that part of my comments earlier?

 

they knew full well they were going to cause a stink with MAGA hats

 

 

 

maybe I'm taking it from the wrong angle, was it a high school MAGA event that the Black Israelites and various Native American protestors crashed?

 

I have a friend who goes to mosques and debates the position that Jesus is the only way to heaven.  That's a brave move but he is fine, sitting in the crowd and applauding him would be a far braver move.

 

 

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

there presence at the event was intended to be provacative

 

did you miss that part of my comments earlier?

 

they knew full well they were going to cause a stink with MAGA hats

 

 

 

Unadulterated bull####.

 

They were going to cause a stink at a Pro-life rally, where VP Pence appeared, with MAGA caps ??...........you're delusional

 

 

The BHI members shouted profanities at the boys, calling them names such as "cracker," "*****," and "pedophile," and singled out a black student for abuse, saying he was a "n*gger" who was going to be murdered and have his organs harvested by the white kids.

 

After a while, the boys asked their chaperones if they could sing their school songs to drown out the abusive taunts being hurled at them. The boys rambunctiously sang the songs, but did not direct any racist slurs at the agitators.

 

In the midst of this, a group of Native American activists from the American Indian Movement began to march toward the high schoolers.

 

The Center for Security Studies describes what happened next:

 

They were not trying to pass by as there were clear and open spaces on either side of the group of boys. As they march up, one of the videos shows an agitator saying the boys were targeted partly due to some wearing red Make America Great Again (MAGA) hats associated with President Trump. The activists were chanting and drumming and their leader, a man named Nathan Phillips, continued into the group and marched directly up to one boy who was simply standing quietly and began drumming and chanting loudly inches from his face.

 

The boy did not react except for a slight smile as the man continued to taunt him from close range for period of minutes. At one point the boy can even be seen looking over his shoulder and giving a signal to remain calm to some of his friends.

There are multiple videos of the event and none of them show the boys chanting any racist slurs or “Build the Wall” as Phillips had claimed they did. They show many of the boys bouncing and chanting along to start with but eventually upon seeing that Phillips was being aggressive they stopped chanting with him and began chanting at him. At one point a few of the boys did the “Tomahawk Chop” a gesture used widely at sports events, but no racial or other slurs were employed as seen in any of the available footage.

 

Incredibly, virtually all the major media outlets got it wrong. Their own confirmation bias led them to tell a completely different story over the weekend, basing their reportage on the dubious claims of Nathan Phillips without bothering to verify his claims and without seeking to hear the Covington teens' side of the story.

 

In Phillips' telling, the boys were the aggressors in the situation, forming a mob around him as he was marching and chanting peacefully.

“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’” Phillips told the Washington Post. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

 

Without video evidence, the media reported Phillips' claim that the students subjected him to racist taunts and chanted “Build the Wall.” In all the hours of video available online, no footage has emerged of the kids doing any such thing.

 

Phillips later told the Detroit Free Press that the teenagers "were in the process of attacking these four black individuals" and he was trying to de-escalate the situation.

 

But the video footage taken by the black nationalists themselves does not show the white teenagers attacking them. It shows the BHI members targeting the Catholic kids with verbal abuse. Nevertheless, Phillips described the innocent kids as "beasts" and the black extremists who insulted him as "their prey."

"There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that."

 

Again, the video evidence shows the opposite to be true. The "beasts" were the BHI members and the Catholic teenagers were their "prey."

 

 

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6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

there presence at the event was intended to be provacative

 

did you miss that part of my comments earlier?

 

they knew full well they were going to cause a stink with MAGA hats

 

 

 

maybe I'm taking it from the wrong angle, was it a high school MAGA event that the Black Israelites and various Native American protestors crashed?

 

I have a friend who goes to mosques and debates the position that Jesus is the only way to heaven.  That's a brave move but he is fine, sitting in the crowd and applauding him would be a far braver move.

 

 

 

I hope your friend is armed. They’ll kill him for blasphemy. 

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6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

why are you people having a Rumpelstiltskin tirade over this garbage?

 

wasting hours of your life getting the vapors?

 

get a life already

 

 

If you don't see the broader implications here I don't know what to tell you. This story should not be allowed to die quietly.

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20 minutes ago, row_33 said:

why are you people having a Rumpelstiltskin tirade over this garbage?

 

wasting hours of your life getting the vapors?

 

get a life already

 

As I posted above......

 

53 minutes ago, B-Man said:

We have now reached the “Bargaining” phase of the “5 Stages of Grief That You Shared An Internet Hoax,”

which is when you pivot to smaller allegations in an attempt to justify the original mob.

The smartest ones drop truth altogether and pivot to “the larger context.”

 

 

 

 

Don’t wear your MAGA hats out in public

I’ve noticed many pundits, in the fallout from the Covington boys vs. the Native American incident, saying that the kids shouldn’t have worn MAGA hats. I’ve seen it said over and over, mainly by people walking back previous vicious comments about the boys and trying to balance it by now saying “well, they shouldn’t have been wearing the hats.”

Others have chimed in, too, for example this member of Congress. I kid you not:

qEAFTWha_normal.jpgRep. John Yarmuth
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds. [1/2]
 
Actually, only a few of the Covington boys had on MAGA hats—the ones more heavily featured in front in the video. But however many wore them, it’s stunning that we’ve gotten to the point that wearing a hat in support of a president and making America great is considered a provocation to violence and trouble, and something that should not be done.
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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

As I posted above......

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t wear your MAGA hats out in public

I’ve noticed many pundits, in the fallout from the Covington boys vs. the Native American incident, saying that the kids shouldn’t have worn MAGA hats. I’ve seen it said over and over, mainly by people walking back previous vicious comments about the boys and trying to balance it by now saying “well, they shouldn’t have been wearing the hats.”

Others have chimed in, too, for example this member of Congress. I kid you not:

qEAFTWha_normal.jpgRep. John Yarmuth
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds. [1/2]
 
Actually, only a few of the Covington boys had on MAGA hats—the ones more heavily featured in front in the video. But however many wore them, it’s stunning that we’ve gotten to the point that wearing a hat in support of a president and making America great is considered a provocation to violence and trouble, and something that should not be done.

If only that little slut hadn't worn that short skirt she wouldn't have gotten raped.

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6 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Those who choose fascism over socialism will get both.

 

One of my heroes, Sulla, basically overthrew his government twice to save republicanism. Lincoln took many constitutional liberties to save the country. I’m not advocating for fascism but I’ll utilize fascist methods to get the America I want. 

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41 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

As I posted above......

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t wear your MAGA hats out in public

I’ve noticed many pundits, in the fallout from the Covington boys vs. the Native American incident, saying that the kids shouldn’t have worn MAGA hats. I’ve seen it said over and over, mainly by people walking back previous vicious comments about the boys and trying to balance it by now saying “well, they shouldn’t have been wearing the hats.”

Others have chimed in, too, for example this member of Congress. I kid you not:

qEAFTWha_normal.jpgRep. John Yarmuth
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds. [1/2]
 
Actually, only a few of the Covington boys had on MAGA hats—the ones more heavily featured in front in the video. But however many wore them, it’s stunning that we’ve gotten to the point that wearing a hat in support of a president and making America great is considered a provocation to violence and trouble, and something that should not be done.

 

Yarmuth was being sarcastic.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

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Winston had the job of erasing history and quickly re-writing it to fit the latest narrative. You'd love that job! 

17 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

One of my heroes, Sulla, basically overthrew his government twice to save republicanism. Lincoln took many constitutional liberties to save the country. I’m not advocating for fascism but I’ll utilize fascist methods to get the America I want. 

Why not just let us voters decide what country we want? 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Winston had the job of erasing history and quickly re-writing it to fit the latest narrative. You'd love that job! 

 

That, literally, is what you're attempting to do in this thread. It's really sad. You have an opportunity to prove you're not just a troll. 

 

But you failed. 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Why not just let us voters decide what country we want? 

 

 

That’s what I advocate for, but we need to purge the rolls as universal suffrage is an awful idea because of people like you. People like you who feel they should have some say in how other people’s money is distributed. People like you who vote for savages that promise their base free crap at others expense. The anti-American freeloaders are sinking the ship. We need to stop them from voting. 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That, literally, is what you're attempting to do in this thread. It's really sad. You have an opportunity to prove you're not just a troll. 

 

But you failed. 

 

 

 

It's all the deep States fault! 

1 minute ago, The_Dude said:

 

 

That’s what I advocate for, but we need to purge the rolls as universal suffrage is an awful idea because of people like you. People like you who feel they should have some say in how other people’s money is distributed. People like you who vote for savages that promise their base free crap at others expense. The anti-American freeloaders are sinking the ship. We need to stop them from voting. 

So you don't want the voters to decide. Most of these posters agree with you 

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16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's all the deep States fault

 

In this case, it's entirely your fault. You began a thread with one premise based on the available evidence. New evidence has come out since you started this thread which shows you, and the many others who jumped to a conclusion, were wrong. You have had the opportunity to admit, "I got this one wrong" and move on, but instead you've doubled down in a way no one else is. 

 

You didn't do that because of the Deep State. You did that because you're a troll who is not capable of being honest. 

 

That should put you on a bunch of people's ignore lists who tried, for years, to give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

Sad. 

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