Bill_with_it Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 12/27/2018 at 8:02 PM, NewDayBills said: Just a random thought, hope I am not violating the tos and I am sorry if I am but I am awfully curious about this topic. Obviously marijuana is banned by the NFL, but I've wondered for quite some time if football players smoke because it relieves symptoms of CTE. Do any of you think this is possible? It would be pretty tragic if the NFL banned a substance that could benefit their players mental health, especially with something as serious as CTE. I know weed helps treat a myriad of illnesses from bipolar disorder all the way down to arthritis and inflammation. Could marijuana benefit players and should the NFL take it off its banned substances list? It would be a shame if the NFL was taking away something that could be beneficial to its players. Do you guys think weed could actually help the NFL? Thoughts? As long as josh Gordon’s if the world are content to throw away millions of dollars because of it; showing he’s addicted to it, likely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, TuelTime said: Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how pharmaceutical companies get their drugs approved? You do know these companies knowingly sell drugs that will harm users, but they stand to make fortunes even after paying out settlements and lawyer fees, so they release them anyways. Big Pharma is not your friend, and the politicians and the FDA are on their payroll. Marijuana wasn't made illegal because it is a harmful substance. It was a calculated move by the rich and powerful to maintain their wealth and power. It is not a "tinfoil hat" conspiracy. It is the truth. Do the research. So much ignorance and misinformation in this thread. The amount of brainwashed citizens in this country never ceases to amaze me. News Flash: Most of what you were taught in high school were lies and propaganda used to breed ignorant nationalists who won't question their government. How many literal months of your existence will be spent arguing over your worship of cannabis? Think of what you could have put a sober and useful mind into, instead of this..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 13 hours ago, row_33 said: How do you mean? Smoking of tobacco will be allowed again in public areas? no private clubs and bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 ...should it be approved to soothe some posters??...just askin'........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, TuelTime said: Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how pharmaceutical companies get their drugs approved? You do know these companies knowingly sell drugs that will harm users, but they stand to make fortunes even after paying out settlements and lawyer fees, so they release them anyways. Big Pharma is not your friend, and the politicians and the FDA are on their payroll. Marijuana wasn't made illegal because it is a harmful substance. It was a calculated move by the rich and powerful to maintain their wealth and power. It is not a "tinfoil hat" conspiracy. It is the truth. Do the research. So much ignorance and misinformation in this thread. The amount of brainwashed citizens in this country never ceases to amaze me. News Flash: Most of what you were taught in high school were lies and propaganda used to breed ignorant nationalists who won't question their government. Ha ha oh no. Penicillin is out to get us. We are all going to die from every monoclonal antibody that treat hundreds of autoimmune conditions. Big Pharma knows that weed will awaken our third eye and cure every disease. #resist Edited December 29, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Bill_with_it said: As long as josh Gordon’s if the world are content to throw away millions of dollars because of it; showing he’s addicted to it, likely not the guy is just a loser if there wasnt pot he would be into something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On December 28, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Chandler#81 said: Doc: Here, take this for your pain. Team: You’re suspended. Doc: Here, take this HGH to heal from injury and maintain muscle mass Team: you're suspended It doesn't matter if the doctor prescribes it.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 hours ago, tcampbell104 said: the guy is just a loser if there wasnt pot he would be into something else I mean he isn’t the only one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 9:04 PM, Alphadawg7 said: So its ok to have a society who is drunk? Sorry, but that statement makes utterly no sense. Just because something is legal doesn't mean its now something people use all day long for one. Second, its a million times safer and less impactful than poisons like opioids. And as far as killing people...you are completely wrong and made false conclusions off a false narrative of some story you read. The 100% facts are that there is not a single recorded death in all human history in any country, state, village, tribe, etc that is attributed to cannabis use. Yet people die from drinking alcohol, eating peanuts, even drinking too much water every year...not one death ever attributed to the prolonged use of cannabis. Its literally medically impossible to even over dose from cannabis. Now, can someone make a poor decision while using cannabis like drive and die in an accident, sure, just like they can when using a Vicodin, alcohol and many other "legal" substances.. And the reason its shows up in blood toxicology tests is because its detectable for many months after use where things like alcohol and most narcotics are no longer detectable within days. It does NOT mean it was recently used or was the cause of the "accidents" as you are implying in your "findings". In fact, in legalized states cannabis related "accidents" are a minute fraction compared to drinking and distracted driving accidents (texting, eating, makeup, etc). The gap between them is massive in terms of occurrences. So sorry, cannabis is light years safer than many other legal products in terms of public danger. And its never killed anyone from the use of it in the history of the world. This is not correct - there have been numerous cases of children and teens that have died from overdose and the numbers are increasing. It is becoming more common as more edibles are being produced and children are getting their hands on it. Yes it is more rare than alcohol, but as it becomes more widespread- the number of cases have increased. It is also been attributed to an increasing number of deaths associated with motor vehicle accidents. It is not impossible to overdose, but the levels needed are quite high. THC is also becoming the next Vitamin D - the most recent miracle cure. Doctors attributed everything from mood changes to cancer to diabetes cure to Viamin D and because you produced Vitamin D from the sun - the thought was no one could overdose. Then they started doing studies and found it was not much better than placebo. We will see how THC fares. We know that CBD has some positive effects, but does the added THC have any real effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: This is not correct - there have been numerous cases of children and teens that have died from overdose and the numbers are increasing. It is becoming more common as more edibles are being produced and children are getting their hands on it. Yes it is more rare than alcohol, but as it becomes more widespread- the number of cases have increased. It is also been attributed to an increasing number of deaths associated with motor vehicle accidents. It is not impossible to overdose, but the levels needed are quite high. THC is also becoming the next Vitamin D - the most recent miracle cure. Doctors attributed everything from mood changes to cancer to diabetes cure to Viamin D and because you produced Vitamin D from the sun - the thought was no one could overdose. Then they started doing studies and found it was not much better than placebo. We will see how THC fares. We know that CBD has some positive effects, but does the added THC have any real effect. where is the proof that all these children and teens have died of overdoses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, tcampbell104 said: where is the proof that all these children and teens have died of overdoses Do a quick Google search of THC overdose or death. For Example: https://www.transformationstreatment.center/resources/overdose/many-people-died-weed/ http://www.poppot.org/2018/04/18/truth-deaths-by-marijuana-overdose/ These do not include the slew of newer vehicle related issues that are being seen in legal states like Colorado. Again It is nothing compared to other drugs, but to say no one has ever overdosed or that it is impossible is just wrong. It also does not include deaths when weed is laced with other things and people have psychotic effects. The facts are that it has been legal in states for a short time and numbers seem to be rising. Now - I could not care less- legal/illegal, use it or don’t, but to say there has never been an overdose or death is just wrong. It is like the argument that it is non addictive- yet people that smoke pot and are forced to stop have relapses, or can’t stop, and have other withdrawal type psychological symptoms. I think there are a lot of good things to be gained from CBD and other cannabinol substances, but it is still a drug and still has similar issues as other drugs. Edited December 30, 2018 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Do a quick Google search of THC overdose or death. For Example: https://www.transformationstreatment.center/resources/overdose/many-people-died-weed/ http://www.poppot.org/2018/04/18/truth-deaths-by-marijuana-overdose/ These do not include the slew of newer vehicle related issues that are being seen in legal states like Colorado. Again It is nothing compared to other drugs, but to say no one has ever overdosed or that it is impossible is just wrong. It also does not include deaths when weed is laced with other things and people have psychotic effects. The facts are that it has been legal in states for a short time and numbers seem to be rising. Now - I could not care less- legal/illegal, use it or don’t, but to say there has never been an overdose or death is just wrong. It is like the argument that it is non addictive- yet people that smoke pot and are forced to stop have relapses, or can’t stop, and have other withdrawal type psychological symptoms. I think there are a lot of good things to be gained from CBD and other cannabinol substances, but it is still a drug and still has similar issues as other drugs. its still less harmful than alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, tcampbell104 said: its still less harmful than alcohol I never said it was not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: Do a quick Google search of THC overdose or death. For Example: https://www.transformationstreatment.center/resources/overdose/many-people-died-weed/ http://www.poppot.org/2018/04/18/truth-deaths-by-marijuana-overdose/ These do not include the slew of newer vehicle related issues that are being seen in legal states like Colorado. Again It is nothing compared to other drugs, but to say no one has ever overdosed or that it is impossible is just wrong. It also does not include deaths when weed is laced with other things and people have psychotic effects. The facts are that it has been legal in states for a short time and numbers seem to be rising. Now - I could not care less- legal/illegal, use it or don’t, but to say there has never been an overdose or death is just wrong. It is like the argument that it is non addictive- yet people that smoke pot and are forced to stop have relapses, or can’t stop, and have other withdrawal type psychological symptoms. I think there are a lot of good things to be gained from CBD and other cannabinol substances, but it is still a drug and still has similar issues as other drugs. "Parents Opposed to Pot" and some other unknown, for profit drug addiction treatment clinic???? That is your evidence? GTFOH. Edited December 30, 2018 by BUFFALOKIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Marijuana, coffee and bacon...is there anything they can't fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: "Parents Opposed to Pot" and some other unknown, for profit drug addiction treatment clinic???? That is your evidence? GTFOH. There are other including the CDC - do a search or not - there are cases and there are listed articles out there about deaths. You can choose what side you want to fall on - either way, but there are not just single articles. Plus just do a quick search for Colorado and motor vehicle issues and a ton of marijuana related articles will pop up. As I have said repeatedly - compared to other drugs it is not as bad, but it is still a drug and has all of the same issues every other drug has. To call it 100% safe and say that no one in the history of the world has ever died from overdose was the point of my contention- that is simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, boater said: Marijuana, coffee and bacon...is there anything they can't fix? LSAT scores. Diabetes. 12 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: "Parents Opposed to Pot" and some other unknown, for profit drug addiction treatment clinic???? That is your evidence? GTFOH. Now post your greenleaf.net “research study” lol Edited December 30, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: LSAT scores. Diabetes. Now post your greenleaf.net “research study” lol I did not make any claims one way or the other homie, so I have no need. I just pointed out that other dudes lame ass "evidence". Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: This is not correct - there have been numerous cases of children and teens that have died from overdose and the numbers are increasing. It is becoming more common as more edibles are being produced and children are getting their hands on it. Yes it is more rare than alcohol, but as it becomes more widespread- the number of cases have increased. It is also been attributed to an increasing number of deaths associated with motor vehicle accidents. It is not impossible to overdose, but the levels needed are quite high. THC is also becoming the next Vitamin D - the most recent miracle cure. Doctors attributed everything from mood changes to cancer to diabetes cure to Viamin D and because you produced Vitamin D from the sun - the thought was no one could overdose. Then they started doing studies and found it was not much better than placebo. We will see how THC fares. We know that CBD has some positive effects, but does the added THC have any real effect. Lol, THC is not the "miracle cure." It's CBD, Cannabidol oil. (Totally non-psychoactive.) It's also impossible to OD on pot. But please, do carry on with your crusade. 42 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: There are other including the CDC - do a search or not - there are cases and there are listed articles out there about deaths. You can choose what side you want to fall on - either way, but there are not just single articles. Plus just do a quick search for Colorado and motor vehicle issues and a ton of marijuana related articles will pop up. As I have said repeatedly - compared to other drugs it is not as bad, but it is still a drug and has all of the same issues every other drug has. To call it 100% safe and say that no one in the history of the world has ever died from overdose was the point of my contention- that is simply not true. You do realize that it's illegal to conduct medical research on marijuana, without government permission? And how unbiased is a study that's government approved going to be? Edited December 30, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Lol, THC is not the "miracle cure." It's CBD, Cannabidol oil. (Totally non-psychoactive.) It's also impossible to OD on pot. But please, do carry on with your crusade. You do realize that it's illegal to conduct medical research on marijuana, without government permission? And how unbiased is a study that's government approved going to be? Imagine having the take “we don’t have evidence so it must be good!” I bet you would have prescribed thalidomide to pregnant ladies. Edited December 30, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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