ExiledInIllinois Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I was encouraged to start a thread in PPP. Here's nifty one. Try to look past by the source and to the substance. Thoughts from the Main PPP Partisan Shills. I better not get a PPP STD... Ah, WTF, a little burning and green pee never hurt anyone... And it's fun; https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/12/10/18126132/trump-populism-democracy-threat-minority-rule Dangerous demagoguery. Ruling by a gerrymandering monority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Quote The most egregious examples are playing out right now in states ranging from North Carolina to Michigan to Wisconsin, where the GOP increasingly has an answer to the problem of what you do if you lose elections — ignore the outcome and just change the rules to avoid giving up power. Mmmm...What other party has a habit of doing that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I support gerrymandering because I despise universal suffrage. Most liberals don't deserve to vote, so denying them an impact makes perfect sense to me. Anybody ever notice how the bill of rights don't say nothin about voting? There's a reason for that. Allowing everybody to vote was never something the founders wanted because they knew better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I had heard that in these two states (at a minimum) Wisconsin, Michigan GOP state lawmakers look to limit powers of new Democratic governors. Republican-led legislatures in Wisconsin and Michigan in lame duck sessions are aiming to limit the powers of incoming Democratic governors in their states, prompting sore loser allegations from opponents who say lawmakers are undermining voters. But the moves also raise broader questions about whether such efforts have become the new normal in a political environment in which state bodies are becoming more partisan--and more powerful. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-michigan-gop-state-lawmakers-look-to-limit-powers-of-new-democratic-governors/ And people say the Democrats are a pile of **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I was encouraged to start a thread in PPP. Here's nifty one. Try to look past by the source and to the substance. Thoughts from the Main PPP Partisan Shills. I better not get a PPP STD... Ah, WTF, a little burning and green pee never hurt anyone... And it's fun; https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/12/10/18126132/trump-populism-democracy-threat-minority-rule Dangerous demagoguery. Ruling by a gerrymandering monority. I wish the writer could have complained about the electoral college sooner in the article. That would have saved me some time reading down to that before stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 No strawmen please. Just substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I had heard that in these two states (at a minimum) Wisconsin, Michigan GOP state lawmakers look to limit powers of new Democratic governors. Republican-led legislatures in Wisconsin and Michigan in lame duck sessions are aiming to limit the powers of incoming Democratic governors in their states, prompting sore loser allegations from opponents who say lawmakers are undermining voters. But the moves also raise broader questions about whether such efforts have become the new normal in a political environment in which state bodies are becoming more partisan--and more powerful. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-michigan-gop-state-lawmakers-look-to-limit-powers-of-new-democratic-governors/ And people say the Democrats are a pile of **** vox. all the lols Edit: also note that while "liberal" western europe decays and burns, Poland and Hungary are peaceful and prospering. And if that idiot thinks the President's policies aren't popular, he's gravely mistaken. Edited December 10, 2018 by Joe in Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 VOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Sorry EII this is not a very good topic and that you have the intellects of Shady trying to shift your argument to shift the narrative to that which was the aim of the Vox article is proof positive. Low IQ folks can't help but to create the strawmen theory that folks like Shady are attempting to do from the strawman theory proposed by the author of the article. Hence, it should not be reasonably argued. Edit. I read the article because I had to *****. What a racist piece of ***** article. The main jist: black people commit more crimes and can't vote once felons so we need to let black felons vote so they vote Democrat because they're more likely to vote Democrat. Holy ?, Batman. That's a great argument. The rest was talking about restrictions to authoritarian governments (governors) which is hilarious because on a federal level it is the desire to do that to Trump and reinstore state rights which is something that was attempted a hundred years ago and resisted by the Democrats. That Trump has reversed the entire course of Democratic ideologies shows the baseless platform liberals stand on and the Bastian of hypocrisy that they have showing that liberalism is a form of retardation and should be treated as such. It's quite disgusting that #orangemanbad is the alchemist of change in to a party which once set the social tones of revolution. Edited December 10, 2018 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Does anyone remember Ballot Box 13? As far as gerrymandering goes and what's happening now, this is a great read on how it is presently working. And, it's all legal. (The actual book, not the revue). https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/david-daley/ratfked/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I support gerrymandering because I despise universal suffrage. Most liberals don't deserve to vote, so denying them an impact makes perfect sense to me. Anybody ever notice how the bill of rights don't say nothin about voting? There's a reason for that. Allowing everybody to vote was never something the founders wanted because they knew better. Liberals are generally more educated, tolerant and in possession of human capital than Conservatives. Why wouldn't you want the betters to vote? 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I was encouraged to start a thread in PPP. Here's nifty one. Try to look past by the source and to the substance. Thoughts from the Main PPP Partisan Shills. I better not get a PPP STD... Ah, WTF, a little burning and green pee never hurt anyone... And it's fun; https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/12/10/18126132/trump-populism-democracy-threat-minority-rule Dangerous demagoguery. Ruling by a gerrymandering monority. The courts have so far done a fine job at protecting the rule of law in this country. Not just during this illiberal period of "populism" but through our relatively recent history--I'm thinking in over turing Jim Crow. I'd like to think both left and right judges will continue this. I'd like to think that the last election helped us over the hump of them having all the power. I mean if they were going to cement their rule, there was the chance, right? Most of the people in the country are good people. Trump and the Tea Party Republicans have since 2010 relied on the apathy of the electorate but once they saw how bad Trump was--and his GOP enablers--the good people showed up at the polls and said enough. Dems had a 10% advantage in the past election, yet many of those voters had voted Republican in the past. So I'd like to think that there are enough good people in the country to stop a situation from installing a wicked minority to dominate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Does anyone remember Ballot Box 13? As far as gerrymandering goes and what's happening now, this is a great read on how it is presently working. And, it's all legal. (The actual book, not the revue). https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/david-daley/ratfked/ NC is a foothold for this argument because it's been a solid blue state for so long that now it's been lost and the attempts to regain balance by redistricting have caused an uproar at the reality we are now red. Save for Mecklenburg, Wake, a few other ***** counties and the tiny blip that is the city of Asheville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Liberals are generally more educated, tolerant and in possession of human capital than Conservatives. Why wouldn't you want the betters to vote? That's hilarious. "betters" I mean that is seriously ROTFLMAO. What you're referring to is what I call the "Marthas Vineyard" liberal. Idiots who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and couldnt change their own flat. Helpless idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: That's hilarious. "betters" I mean that is seriously ROTFLMAO. What you're referring to is what I call the "Marthas Vineyard" liberal. Idiots who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and couldnt change their own flat. Helpless idiots. Yet they live in wealthy Martha's Vineyards! They can hire someone to change a flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yet they live in wealthy Martha's Vineyards! They can hire someone to change a flat. But ya know what they can’t do? Deal with an armed, pissed off guy like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, The_Dude said: That's hilarious. "betters" I mean that is seriously ROTFLMAO. What you're referring to is what I call the "Marthas Vineyard" liberal. Idiots who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and couldnt change their own flat. Helpless idiots. Something like the Marine in the commercial who claims that the leak in his water heater "rocked his world". I guess it changed his world forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, The_Dude said: But ya know what they can’t do? Deal with an armed, pissed off guy like me. They can call the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: They can call the police Tibs, imagine a crowd like in Paris only it’s armed. What’s a cop(s) gonna do? They’re gonna reflect on their future prospects and their pathetic salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Quote The resistance to Trump — the largest and most powerful social movement in generations — needs to enter a more radical stage that goes beyond electoral advocacy to include civil disobedience and direct action. The "largest and most powerful social movement in generations" - ignoring the rebellion of flyover country that elected Trump to start with - needs to become more terroristic. ***** brilliant. "Direct action?" Really? Literally, a call to revolution. Sorry, I'm not taking that story at all seriously. 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Liberals are generally more educated, tolerant and in possession of human capital than Conservatives. More educated, tolerant...and own slaves? ***** you, ***** ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: More educated, tolerant...and own slaves? ***** you, ***** ball. Slavery was a universally accepted practice until modernity. I fault no race, religion, or whatever for slavery. It was/is a universal practice. ...which is why I love the American black attitude that slavery was some great injustice suffered only to blacks. Edited December 10, 2018 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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