Allen best Bills QB of 21st century?

[Albany,n.y.]

On 11/22/2018 at 2:06 PM, vorpma said:

So did Flutie, sorry, he is number one since Kelly. Orton will always be remembered for his feet first slide after scrambling short of a first down showing his heart was not into getting to the playoffs in a critical end of year game - possibly the Raiders! Tyrod number two, he did get us into the playoffs; Allen has a chance to bump into number if he wins. The rest - who cares! 

The 21st century started on 1/1/2001.  Flutie NEVER played for the Bills in the 21st century.  He is disqualified from participation in a poll of 21st century Bills QBs.  The thread headline doesn't say since Jim Kelly.  Whoever wrote the article needs to stick to data only post 1/1/01.  

 

I'm one of the biggest Allen supporters around & even I think ranking Allen anywhere near the top 5 is ridiculous.  

Edited November 24, 2018 by Albany,n.y.

[vorpma]

6 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The 21st century started on 1/1/2001.  Flutie NEVER played for the Bills in the 21st century.  He is disqualified from participation in a poll of 21st century Bills QBs.  The thread headline doesn't say since Jim Kelly.  Whoever wrote the article needs to stick to data only post 1/1/01.  

 

I'm one of the biggest Allen supporters around & even I think ranking Allen anywhere near the top 5 is ridiculous.  

Good point, I stand corrected!

[fansince88]

On 11/22/2018 at 12:22 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Who’s to say?   Allen’s only played 5 1/4 games!!  

 

Statistically speaking, Matt Barkley is probably the Bills’ best QB in the 21st century ?

Never lost a game as a Bill.

[Thurman#1]

On 11/22/2018 at 11:23 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/11/02cf5c5471d94/every-21st-century-buffalo-bil.html#incart_river_mobile_index

 

A well written piece but I disagree with gifting Allen number one status. 

 

 

Yeah, putting him above Orton, Fitz, Flutie, Bledsoe and Tyrod, and really Rob Johnson, VanPelt and Trent for that matter, is based on pure hope.

 

He's got a shot at being really good, but he hasn't been, and any rating that doesn't reflect that begs the question of what they're actually rating.

 

6 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The 21st century started on 1/1/2001.  Flutie NEVER played for the Bills in the 21st century.  He is disqualified from participation in a poll of 21st century Bills QBs.  The thread headline doesn't say since Jim Kelly.  Whoever wrote the article needs to stick to data only post 1/1/01.  

 

 

Hah!!! Good point. You got me smiling here, and that's hard to do when talking about 21st century Bills QBs.

Edited November 24, 2018 by Thurman#1

[uticaclub]

On 11/22/2018 at 10:39 AM, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said:

I'll never get over Orton's slide at Oakland. That alone push's him down the list.

Didn't we give up a 3rd & 30 in that game? 

[Mike in Horseheads]

Just now, uticaclub said:

Didn't we give up a 3rd & 30 in that game? 

We give up a 3rd and 30 in every game ....grrrr

[MDH]

On 11/22/2018 at 11:01 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m always amazed at how fondly people remember Bledsoe. He SUCKED!! After his first 8 games in a Bills uniform he was 18-22 with a talented team. He averaged less than 200 yards a game, was a statue and turned it over as often as he scored TDs. He is the most over-appreciated player in Bills history.

 

Very true, but he was still better than Allen to this point. But then again a real argument could be made that EJ was better than Allen to this point.

 

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[mozillameister]

That's a pretty low bar to reach anyway...

[billsfan1959]

21 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Oh my god. It wasn't just the last game of the year that got us to the playoffs. It was every other win during the season too.

Which were, for the most part, in spite of Taylor. I think he is the best QB they have had this century; however, he wasn't good last year.

On ‎11‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 1:39 PM, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said:

I'll never get over Orton's slide at Oakland. That alone push's him down the list.

That alone should make him ineligible for the list. No heart.

Edited November 24, 2018 by billsfan1959

[SoTier]

This is the stupidest article that I've read in a long time.  It's on a par with the tabloid of pieces on celeb X dying of cancer and celeb Y being dumped by his/her spouse/significant other/"fiance" du jour.  If you are going to rank something, you have to have some reasonable parameters and honest criteria.  That the author included QBs with a single start in his rankings along with QBs who started multiple games over multiple seasons tells you that the author is clueless about his topic.

 

PS - there is absolutely no way that a rookie who has played in only a handful of games can be ranked as "the greatest" anything, success or bust. 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2018 by SoTier

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 11/22/2018 at 11:03 AM, CincyBillsFan said:

...in Heaven in my lounge chair drinking a Molson Golden while looking down and watching my beloved Bills play.  On 2nd thought that might be the definition of HELL!   

You're in Purgatory if the brew is a Golden.  In Heaven, it's a Molson Stock.  Hell is a Labatt's 50.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

19 minutes ago, SoTier said:

This is the stupidest article that I've read in a long time.  It's on a par with the tabloid of pieces on celeb X dying of cancer and celeb Y being dumped by his/her spouse/significant other/"fiance" du jour.  If you are going to rank something, you have to have some reasonable parameters and honest criteria.  That the author included QBs with a single start in his rankings along with QBs who started multiple games over multiple seasons tells you that the author is clueless about his topic.

 

PS - there is absolutely no way that a rookie who has played in only a handful of games can be ranked as "the greatest" anything, success or bust. 

 

 

But it must be true!  I read it on the internet!  ?

[berg1029]

Even Josh Allen doesn't agree with this list:  

 

The only list Allen should be ranked #1 on (at this point) is QBs with the strongest arm.  Dude can sling it, just not always in the right direction