Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, mannc said: If your percentages are correct, then there’s absolutely no reason to prefer a kick over a 2-point attempt. And your odds ignore the facts that (1) the kicker already missed a short FG and an extra point and (2) Cam Newton’s 2-point conversion percentage should be considerably better than 47%. The play call was poor, but that’s a different issue. And your “momentum” argument is silly. It’s absolutely meaningless, especially in that situation. Mike Schopp is that you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Mike Schopp is that you? Feel free to make a logic-based argument, if you can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Phillip Lindsay is dynamic! Edited December 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Who's the Raiders DC? Looks like Chris Christie. Rob Ryan got a haircut, freelancing as DC for Golden Corral passes? Looks like the sort that would hang out with Chuckie and Mark Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Rob Ryan got a haircut, freelancing as DC for Golden Corral passes? Looks like the sort that would hang out with Chuckie and Mark Davis. You got that right. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: And then 2 min later throws a nice ball for a TD. Meanwhile our guy has been hurt since week 4 was it? Give it a break. You want to give it a break unless you are bitching about Josh Allen....YOU give it a break 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Why didn't you post his two TD passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, stevewin said: Love seeing Ramsey so pissed. His team is trash Did he cry again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, mannc said: If your percentages are correct, then there’s absolutely no reason to prefer a kick over a 2-point attempt. And your odds ignore the facts that (1) the kicker already missed a short FG and an extra point and (2) Cam Newton’s 2-point conversion percentage should be considerably better than 47%. The play call was poor, but that’s a different issue. And your “momentum” argument is silly. It’s absolutely meaningless, especially in that situation. It was a stupid call regardless that a seasoned kicker (Gano) missed a FG and extra point earlier, whom has been money all year. The panthers historic 2pt success rate is now 40%. AS a coach you have to put you team in position for the best chance to win and this was not it. How can you sit here and support it after they just lost because of it? The Panthers put up 2 TD's in the last 10min of 4th QTR to possibly tie the game. Team momentum isn't "silly" either., they were playing their best ball all day in the 4th, you ride that *****. The Panthers now cling to the 6th seed with 7th, 8th and NO twice on the schedule still. The play call was a moronic before hindsight based on percentages and will most likely cost them the playoffs and RR his job at season end. You kick the damn extra point to tie the game and go into OT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why didn't you post his two TD passes? I think he posted it in response to something I said. Edited November 18, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: It was a stupid call regardless that a seasoned kicker (Gano) missed a FG and extra point earlier, whom has been money all year. The panthers historic 2pt success rate is now 40%. AS a coach you have to put you team in position for the best chance to win and this was not it. How can you sit here and support it after they just lost because of it? The Panthers put up 2 TD's in the last 10min of 4th QTR to possibly tie the game. Team momentum isn't "silly" either., they were playing their best ball all day in the 4th, you ride that *****. The Panthers now cling to the 6th seed with 7th, 8th and NO twice on the schedule still. The play call was a moronic before hindsight based on percentages and will most likely cost them the playoffs and RR his job at season end. You kick the damn extra point to tie the game and go into OT. Wait, you just changed the numbers. You said 47% chance of making the deuce and 94% chance of making the kick (ignoring Gano’s two awful misses earlier in the game). And if momentum is so important, why doesn’t the Panthers’ momentum (from just having put up those two TDS) give them a better shot at converting the two-pointer??? Or does momentum only matter in OT? Edited November 18, 2018 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: The play call was a moronic before hindsight based on percentages and will most likely cost them the playoffs and RR his job at season end. You kick the damn extra point to tie the game and go into OT. No way Ron Rivera gets fired this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, mannc said: Feel free to make a logic-based argument, if you can. You already heard mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, mannc said: Wait, you just changed the numbers. You said 47% chance of making the deuce and 96% chance of making the kick (ignoring Gano’s two awful misses earlier in the game). And if momentum is so important, why doesn’t the Panthers’ momentum (from just having put up those two TDS) give them a better shot at converting the two-pointer??? Or does momentum only matter in OT? Newton had a wide open receiver. There was no excuse for him to miss the throw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: You already heard mine. You didn’t make one. You just regurgitated a football cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why didn't you post his two TD passes? Uh, sure. 6/15 with those 2 TDs and 2 INTs against the Raiders defense. He has been bad. I'm watching the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Is fat boy Marcy playing? Haven't heard his name yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, mannc said: You didn’t make one. You just regurgitated a football cliche. Oh I see. So any position that disagrees with your schoopist “Analytics “ perspective isn’t “logic.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Newton had a wide open receiver. There was no excuse for him to miss the throw. I could not tell from the angle I saw. It looked like he could have walked it in, too. 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Oh I see. So any position that disagrees with your schoopist “Analytics “ perspective isn’t “logic.” I backed up my point with logic. You didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, mannc said: I could not tell from the angle I saw. It looked like he could have walked it in, too. He had all day to throw and the guy was in the clear. It should have been a easy pitch and catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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