Kirby Jackson Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Would be unusual for a rookie to get traded, but I wouldn't put it past that Rams team. Yeah, my thought is if they are pushing in this year it’s possible. They can take another one next year. Noteboom and a pick. Hughes is on a team-friendly deal for the production that he has. Pass rushing doesn’t come cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He's pretty well paid and hot and cold a lot. Would make sense to get some value going into an unprecedented deep draft for DE. His salary is average for a good defensive end, and he's in the upper echelon of RDEs in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, nucci said: So, we continue to weaken the team....now you have to replace one of your best defensive players....when do you plan on being a contender.... You will have to replace him when he declines anyway when you want to be a contender. It's like buying a new car and trading in your old vehicle for the black book value rather than it sit and rust to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, nucci said: So, we continue to weaken the team....now you have to replace one of your best defensive players....when do you plan on being a contender.... I kinda get that but it doesn't improve the team...we just have to replace another player....you can't replace so many players at one time But if you're getting draft picks for him then it's problem solved. If you have the third pick and Nick Bosa is there, having that big Hughes contract might be the determining factor as to whether or not you can invest that pick in that. Furthermore, if you have an extra third kicking around you're less in need of a trade down to fill more holes. It's all an elaborate game. Also, Jerry is great, but don't forget that as many games as he has won for us, he has lost just as many by being an idiot and getting dumb flags when his emotions get going. He also has 8.5 sacks in 1.5 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Buddy Hix said: Why is McCoy still on this team? Buddy Hix - Best name and Avatar on this forum! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: But if you're getting draft picks for him then it's problem solved. If you have the third pick and Nick Bosa is there, having that big Hughes contract might be the determining factor as to whether or not you can invest that pick in that. Furthermore, if you have an extra third kicking around you're less in need of a trade down to fill more holes. It's all an elaborate game. Also, Jerry is great, but don't forget that as many games as he has won for us, he has lost just as many by being an idiot and getting dumb flags when his emotions get going. He also has 8.5 sacks in 1.5 seasons. Ha....and very risky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) The worst part of today is remembering back to last year and how freaking psyched I was about Benjamin.... It's like eating a great meal and then puking the rest of the night from food poisoning. 1 minute ago, nucci said: Ha....and very risky Most definitely. But that's the way of the world. Sometimes you're Chip Kelly and become a laughing stock, and sometimes you're Drew Rosenhause and become one of the most respected men in the NFL. Edited October 30, 2018 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We seriously couldn't be bothered to spend a mid round pick on one of those receivers? Oh, we signed Pryor. Oh yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: But if you're getting draft picks for him then it's problem solved. If you have the third pick and Nick Bosa is there, having that big Hughes contract might be the determining factor as to whether or not you can invest that pick in that. Furthermore, if you have an extra third kicking around you're less in need of a trade down to fill more holes. It's all an elaborate game. Also, Jerry is great, but don't forget that as many games as he has won for us, he has lost just as many by being an idiot and getting dumb flags when his emotions get going. He also has 8.5 sacks in 1.5 seasons. So a team that can barely score one touchdown every three games is setting itself up to draft a DE in the first round. Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Perry Turtle said: So a team that can barely score one touchdown every three games is setting itself up to draft a DE in the first round. Great! I feel the same way, but when you're drafting top 3 you probably cant take a wideout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, thenorthremembers said: I feel the same way, but when you're drafting top 3 you probably cant take a wideout. No, you trade down and take a WR and a RT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Perry Turtle said: So a team that can barely score one touchdown every three games is setting itself up to draft a DE in the first round. Great! I definitely see your point and I go back and forth on it a lot. But the honest truth is that last night when it mattered we didn't get to Brady, part of that is definitely the no calls on rapes and maulings that happened against our guys, but still - a great edge rusher can take this defense to elite status (ask the Bears) and they are harder to come by than other positions (ask the Raiders). But either way, you have to ask if Hughes is the guy long term. If he isn't then it makes sense to sell high to a team that is destroying the future for a chance at today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Perry Turtle said: So a team that can barely score one touchdown every three games is setting itself up to draft a DE in the first round. Great! You always take the best talent on the board. Imagine if we had taken Bill Fralik #1 overall in 1985 over Bruce Smith just because we have needed Oline more the previous year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Fowler to Rams. No more Jerry trade. Rams don't believe in the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Why is McCoy still on this team? If the reports of several teams working to get him but the Bills standing firm refusing to deal are true.... ...the people running this team are f-ing idiots. We seem to have leverage and multiple bidders to help garner a good price, but we don't move him? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Woodman19 said: You always take the best talent on the board. Imagine if we had taken Bill Fralik #1 overall in 1985 over Bruce Smith just because we have needed Oline more the previous year? The Bills also had a massive need at DE that season. It's not like they had a top 10 defense and a historically bad offense, and decided to draft Smith. The last two drafts they needed a CB and LB and did pretty good addressing those specific needs. Do the same in the next draft at OL and WR in the first, and they can turn things around quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: No, you trade down and take a WR and a RT. And watch how our w/l record doesn't change in a meaningful way. We need a QB. Until we have one, none of it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: And watch how our w/l record doesn't change in a meaningful way. We need a QB. Until we have one, none of it matters. So what do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: No, you trade down and take a WR and a RT. Now this I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Draft a lt and move Dawkins to guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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