Ol Dirty B Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 7:35 AM, Fadingpain said: Beane is McDermott's errand boy. If you don't like the look of the organization, it's McDermott you need to fire, not Beane. Completely agree. The look of this team started last year. I can't wait until next year, these people will come up with some ridiculous excuse for how they inherited the offense. 4 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Say it all you want. If ranting like this makes you feel better, fine. But it has nothing to do with reality. McDermott and Beane will be here in the off-season planning for free agency and the draft. They will undoubtedly look to bring talent into the offense, and despite the moaning about it being a bad FA class there are lineman out there like Stafford and Paradis that would help this team immensely. They hopefully will find guys like Poyer and Hyde, solid players who were a little bit under the radar but have done very well for us. And they have the draft. People slam their ten picks for having some of them in lower rounds, but they can either package them or depend on their scouts to find guys like Milano or Johnson from this past year. People slammed Jones, but he is starting to come along. Dawkins will be their fixture at LT. They drafted what they hope to be their long term QB. So quit with the stuff about not having a clue on offensive talent. Daboll depending on who you read has done a pretty good job with concepts, although there is criticism that can be laid there (like running shotgun too much last game). This board is replete with these kinds of posts. Exactly what purpose do they serve, when everyone here knows that Beane and McDermott are coming back? The only possible scenario where there would be an iota of a chance of that not happening is if the team loses the rest of the year, with huge losses in each game. And that's not going to happen. McD has shown he can fire up his team to perform even after big losses. My prediction at the beginning of the year was 6 wins. That's pretty close to what they'll get, maybe 5. And they'll then have to have a productive off-season; that is on them. But turn it all upside down yet again, with a GM that's had one draft and one off-season? That is not happening. So continue barking at the moon all you want if it makes you feel better. Some of us will continue to exist in the real world. The guys who scouted Milano are probably no longer with the team. McD has shown he can even fire up his team after big losses. Real resume building there lol. I can't do anything but laugh at this post. Real world? Daboll running shotgun too much last game is a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 2:45 PM, oldmanfan said: Because facts are dangerous things around here. Since your bringing up facts. If u dont have a coach that can develop a QB nor can he bring in or develop offensive talent . That guy shouldn't be your head coach or even worse in this case the defacto GM/Head Coach. Im tired of people making excuses for the lack of coaching or talent . When the guy that there protecting Mcd is the sole reason for these prbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 hours ago, WideRightRevenge said: Bottom line .. nothing will happen ... good or bad till after next year ... I believe after blowhard Rex ... the Pegulas made their choice based on a long term version that McD and subsequently Beane sold them (and let's not kid ourselves that those two were likely a package deal from the get go .. Whaley was dead man walking) ... the playoffs last year was a unexpected surprise to all ... the fans, the coach, the GM, and the owners .. but it broke the streak ... so now this year is likely worse than expected (and the QB room and the OL/WR talent is certainly a dumpster fire and they should be blamed) ... but again it was planned to be somewhat bad ... 2019 was and is the swing season ... there is either marked improvement .. or we get ready for the next regime's kool aid. I'll never understand why this simple truth is so difficult for people to accept. It's almost like they NEED to be ahead of the bad news curve so they can tell everyone "I told you so." Again, the only thing simpler in the NFL than saying "I told you so" is predicting failure. Literally anyone can do it every week of every season. And for some tired reason, some people do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 hours ago, oldmanfan said: They cleared cap space this year. There are FA linemen to be had next year. They have ten draft picks to upgrade things. That is where Beane will be judged. This line reminds me of the BS line my Mom used to feed me that if I was a good boy Santa would bring me more toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Since your bringing up facts. If u dont have a coach that can develop a QB nor can he bring in or develop offensive talent . That guy shouldn't be your head coach or even worse in this case the defacto GM/Head Coach. Im tired of people making excuses for the lack of coaching or talent . When the guy that there protecting Mcd is the sole reason for these prbs. Oh, and the above are facts? Go back to school and study this time 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: This line reminds me of the BS line my Mom used to feed me that if I was a good boy Santa would bring me more toys. Yet another Nostradamus rears his head around here. 23 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Completely agree. The look of this team started last year. I can't wait until next year, these people will come up with some ridiculous excuse for how they inherited the offense. The guys who scouted Milano are probably no longer with the team. McD has shown he can even fire up his team after big losses. Real resume building there lol. I can't do anything but laugh at this post. Real world? Daboll running shotgun too much last game is a problem? You and others saying someone needs to be fired now when you know it's not happening is almost the definition of living in the fantasy world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yet another Nostradamus rears his head around here. I'll believe they can draft and sign good offensive players, when they, you know, actually do. So far they are 0 for 2. KB, Zay, Tolbert, DiMarco, Wonder Boy... Passed on Mahomes, Watson, Ridley ... Impressive track record thus far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'll believe they can draft and sign good offensive players, when they, you know, actually do. So far they are 0 for 2. KB, Zay, Tolbert, DiMarco, Wonder Boy... Passed on Mahomes, Watson, Ridley ... Impressive track record thus far So to be clear, you are saying Zay and Allen are busts. You're saying they'll never been successful in the NFL. Because that's what it sounds like you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'll believe they can draft and sign good offensive players, when they, you know, actually do. So far they are 0 for 2. KB, Zay, Tolbert, DiMarco, Wonder Boy... Passed on Mahomes, Watson, Ridley ... Impressive track record thus far WR1 from 18’ draft class is DJ Moore. He is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, LABillzFan said: So to be clear, you are saying Zay and Allen are busts. You're saying they'll never been successful in the NFL. Because that's what it sounds like you're saying. I'm only going on what I see so far. Have either shown you anything to make think they will be? Zay has played better this year but the chances of him being a AJ Green or Julio Jones or even Robert Woods level WR appears slim. but anything is possible. Same could be said of Josh. Based on what I've seen I have little hope that he can ever be a drop back accurate pocket passer on the level of say Matt Ryan or Carson Palmer. That's what I'm saying. I believe guys can be good once they are, you know, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Is it tomorrow? No, it's still today? OK, I'll check back later. Exactly. The OP stated that Beane should be fired tomorrow and best I can tell, it's still today. These damn millennials are so impatient with their FaceSpace and Twitagram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I'm tone deaf to pure speculation. You're tone deaf to giving me proof to what i'm asking for. You don't seem to know much about how the practical world is very different from your personal experience at your 1 job. You don't seem to know much about sample size or answering a simple question so I'm done arguing with you. I'd wager you're either too condescending to get any proof or don't think critically. Terry Pegula is a cat hoarder, it happens in my multinational conglamerate corporation with the shareholders, thus Terry is a cat hoarder. What is a cat hoarder ? I’ve never herd of that Edited November 2, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: What is a cat hoarder ? I’ve never herd of that Like the cat lady on the Simpsons. that's what I took it to mean anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 38 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm only going on what I see so far. Have either shown you anything to make think they will be? Zay has played better this year but the chances of him being a AJ Green or Julio Jones or even Robert Woods level WR appears slim. but anything is possible. Same could be said of Josh. Based on what I've seen I have little hope that he can ever be a drop back accurate pocket passer on the level of say Matt Ryan or Carson Palmer. That's what I'm saying. I believe guys can be good once they are, you know, good. Okay. So what you're saying is McBeane are unable to draft or sign good offensive players because they're not drafting or signing good offensive players who can do what you want them to do, which is for Zay to be a true #1 and Allen to be a drop-back accurate passer like Ryan or Palmer. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, LABillzFan said: Okay. So what you're saying is McBeane are unable to draft or sign good offensive players because they're not drafting or signing good offensive players who can do what you want them to do, which is for Zay to be a true #1 and Allen to be a drop-back accurate passer like Ryan or Palmer. Got it. Isn't that what we're tanking and losing for? To get players good enough for us to get to the Super Bowl AND win? Average players we already had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Isn't that what we're tanking and losing for? To get players good enough for us to get to the Super Bowl AND win? Average players we already had. So you're saying we drafted Zay and Allen to tank so we can get other players at higher picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 11/1/2018 at 4:27 PM, oldmanfan said: They have two. Their names are McDermott and Beane Okay. Maybe slightly more experienced than Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: The whole Front Office is sort of like Peterman - they look good on paper - they have faith in what they’re doing - they have a plan, but in executing the plan they don’t take into account the context, what the defense/rest of the league is doing - they are stubborn and inflexible and throw it all up for grabs and hope/pray for the best. It ain’t workin’. Based upon this conclusion, the Bills are the team that should have been making 'The Office' parody video, while Cleveland could have done any of 'The Walking Dead', 'Game of Thrones', or 'Benny Hill'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, LABillzFan said: So you're saying we drafted Zay and Allen to tank so we can get other players at higher picks? I'm confused, are you saying we are not tanking and are in fact trying to win this year? i don't know what's worse, tanking, or actually trying to win and being this inept on offense. Edited November 3, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 4:35 AM, Fadingpain said: If you don't like the look of the organization, it's McDermott you need to fire, not Beane. I say Dump BOTH these losers.... Finish the season with Leslie Frazier at interim, and a stand-in GM... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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