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Proud Boys: Patriots or Fascists?


The_Dude

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So, I’m sure you’ve all seen the Proud Boys movement out there. Personally, I find their name stupid, and I’ve never felt the need for a social club, but I like these guys. They don’t seem racist to me. They surely don’t seem fascist if they claim to promote western culture which is undeniably the home of democracy and republics. And I like that they beat the tar out of ANTIFA — it’s always good for a laugh. 

 

But are they a good thing? I mean I like them, but to promote them is kinda like promting political violence and that’s a slippery slope. 

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If they wanted respect, they should have picked a respectable name.

 

When I think of "PROUD BOYS," I think of something entirely different than some conservative rabble rousers.

 

They should most certainly consider changing that name. It's not a good look.

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4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

If they wanted respect, they should have picked a respectable name.

 

When I think of "PROUD BOYS," I think of something entirely different than some conservative rabble rousers.

 

They should most certainly consider changing that name. It's not a good look.

Too bad Antifa's already taken

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On 10/21/2018 at 12:38 PM, LSHMEAB said:

If they wanted respect, they should have picked a respectable name.

 

When I think of "PROUD BOYS," I think of something entirely different than some conservative rabble rousers.

 

They should most certainly consider changing that name. It's not a good look.

 

I agree. I think their “name” is beyond juvenile. 

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21 hours ago, B-Man said:

Patriots or Fascists ?

 

The correct answer (of course) is neither.

 

 

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From how they represent themselves I’m not sure I agree. I think they’re patriotic. I don’t think they’re racists. I see them labeled as racists all the time — but anybody who doesn’t admit guilt and shame on behalf of western civilization is labeled a racist these days. 

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27 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Here's the propaganda:

 

And here's the reality:

 

I appreciate what they do. They seem to be a result of the hyper- PC/Anti-American ***** a lot of the media seem to propagate. They also seem to fly in the face of, and condemn, the positive injury.

 

Basically, they are on my side (the correct side) of a debate which should not exist. 

 

Lastly, they brawl with antifa, which make me love both groups, as they provide me with much needed quality TV.

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What difference at this point does it make?

 

It's just the latest incarnation of the street brawls between the anarchists and brownshirts.    Neither have a place in a civilized society.

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4 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I appreciate what they do. They seem to be a result of the hyper- PC/Anti-American ***** a lot of the media seem to propagate. They also seem to fly in the face of, and condemn, the positive injury.

 

Basically, they are on my side (the correct side) of a debate which should not exist. 

 

Lastly, the brawl with antifa, which make me love both groups, as they provide me with much needed quality TV.

I like the brawls too. The subversive fascist, Don Lemon, and the lispy kunt he had on, talk of their propensity for violence as they themselves support antifa, who Lemon refers to as "anti-fascist". The reality is that Proud Boys don't go to antifa events looking for a fight. They stomp the antifa who come to their events looking for a fight.

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17 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I like the brawls too. The subversive fascist, Don Lemon, and the lispy kunt he had on, talk of their propensity for violence as they themselves support antifa, who Lemon refers to as "anti-fascist". The reality is that Proud Boys don't go to antifa events looking for a fight. They stomp the antifa who come to their events looking for a fight.

Yeah, the truth is CNN relly propagates a *****ton of lies. They do business in disinformation. 

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32 minutes ago, GG said:

What difference at this point does it make?

 

It's just the latest incarnation of the street brawls between the anarchists and brownshirts.    Neither have a place in a civilized society.

 

That...is where you're wrong. 

You might not want them to have a place in society, but political violence goes back to Greece, Rome, and wherever. Its part and parcel. I mean I kinda agree with you, but historically this is to be expected. 

 

...and if we're gonna have violent leftists I say I should hurt them.

I wish theyd be dumb enough to try that ***** down here in Dixie. 

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1 minute ago, The_Dude said:

 

That...is where you're wrong. 

You might not want them to have a place in society, but political violence goes back to Greece, Rome, and wherever. Its part and parcel. 

 

Please explain how political violence has a place in a civilized society?

 

Should be a fun read.

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1 hour ago, GG said:

 

Please explain how political violence has a place in a civilized society?

 

Should be a fun read.

 

Um...because it’s always been there. From Ancient Greece, to Ancient Rome to today

 

Heck, ya know the board member Tiberius? The Grachi he named himself after was bluggened to death by Rome’s Pontifex Maximus as a Tribune! 

 

Political violence has always been there. From the rostra to the Black Hand, man. I mean what do ya want? A chronological list of every time a punch was thrown in a civilized world over politics?

 

hope the read was fun. 

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23 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Um...because it’s always been there. From Ancient Greece, to Ancient Rome to today

 

Heck, ya know the board member Tiberius? The Grachi he named himself after was bluggened to death by Rome’s Pontifex Maximus as a Tribune! 

 

Political violence has always been there. From the rostra to the Black Hand, man. I mean what do ya want? A chronological list of every time a punch was thrown in a civilized world over politics?

 

hope the read was fun. 

So in other words, you didn't answer the question. 

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19 minutes ago, GG said:

So in other words, you didn't answer the question. 

 

...I’ll bite. How does one answer the question? Because it seems like you’re wanting a survey on political violence dating back to the Bronze Age. 

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

That was social, not political.

 

No dumbass, it was political. You freaking idiot. 

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2 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

...I’ll bite. How does one answer the question? Because it seems like you’re wanting a survey on political violence dating back to the Bronze Age. 

 

No dumbass, it was political. You freaking idiot. 

 

It was the Roman oligarchy oppressing the commoners, whom Tiberius Gracchus supported.  It was social strife, not political violence.

 

There isn't a single political policy in history that led to violence.

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3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

It was the Roman oligarchy oppressing the commoners, whom Tiberius Gracchus supported.  It was social strife, not political violence.

 

There isn't a single political policy in history that led to violence.

 

Ok. Idiot. Sure. Let’s all forget about the fact that this happened due to the lex agraria. Ya know, nothing political about legislation and stuff. If you knew half as much as you pretended you’d be a very educated man worth listening too. 

 

I may may not know about boat war. But I worship the Romans and I’m a subject matter expert in Roman things because I am such a student of warfare. I can name more Roman politicians than Americans. I know the late republic better than you, and you’re wrong. You couldn’t be more wrong. 

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3 hours ago, GG said:

 

It's just the latest incarnation of the street brawls between the anarchists and brownshirts.    Neither have a place in a civilized society.

 

 

I was going to say something like 'totally agree, who could possibly disagree with that?' but then I kept reading.....

 

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51 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

It was the Roman oligarchy oppressing the commoners, whom Tiberius Gracchus supported.  It was social strife, not political violence.

 

There isn't a single political policy in history that led to violence.

At some point, the people here have to see the beauty in that statement.

 

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2 hours ago, The_Dude said:

 

Ok. Idiot. Sure. Let’s all forget about the fact that this happened due to the lex agraria. Ya know, nothing political about legislation and stuff. If you knew half as much as you pretended you’d be a very educated man worth listening too. 

 

I may may not know about boat war. But I worship the Romans and I’m a subject matter expert in Roman things because I am such a student of warfare. I can name more Roman politicians than Americans. I know the late republic better than you, and you’re wrong. You couldn’t be more wrong. 

 

The Lex Agraria?  The redistribution of public land from the oligarch to the plebians financed by money from Pergamon? 

 

Lex Agraria, the economic policy?  

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