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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

 

I’ve never heard anyone on here say something big would happen soon. Glad to hear this. 

 

He turned out to be a pretty empty suit. I would have put the highest odds on him after 2016. Seemed groomed to be the next nominee. 

 

I wonder if Warren will continue to rise. The Bernie bros could flock to her fast if they feel he’s falling. Yang has seen a bump of late but it’s probably too late for him. He’s a bit wacky but I hope there’s room in a future administration for some Silicon Valley moonshot thinking to attack some of our public problems. 

 

...the fickle "it's time for a female President" female contingent is scarier than hell...gender with that gang trumps (no pun intended) everything else.....policy and country vision doesn't mean jack..add in the "gimmee gimmee gang " as well..why do you think Hillary won the "popular" vote?..........da pant suit??................

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Everyone was already looking into Joe and his son -- this has only added gas to that fire. And gee, guess what, now there's a whole slew of corrupt Chinese deals to examine (as stated there would be). 

 

 

Sorry, Joe. You never really had a chance to begin with, but each hour that passes your odds of winning another election drop while your odds of facing legal consequences rises. 

 

Gonna be a tough fall (more ways than one) for Joe.

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4 hours ago, John Adams said:

 

She’s a terrible choice if they want to defeat Trump but she is on ascendance. 

 

This Ukraine stuff may buoy Biden. You have your pet theories but Trump may have shot himself in the balls on this. And Biden may be like watching your kid at a piano recital when he’s behind a mic, but he does a good job talking to places Trump needs. And he’s the only front runners who can do that. 

 

Trump was going to solve heath care in his first 6 months in office. You must have missed that. 

 

Well he did finally break the pile of ***** that was the ACA.

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32 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Well he did finally break the pile of ***** that was the ACA.

 

Breaking things easy.

 

Building them is hard. 

 

Our president pressured another government to investigate his leading political rival. That’s about as bad as it gets, DR’s rubber/glue argument notwithstanding. Just because Dems did awful stuff doesn’t make upping the ante somehow OK. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

Breaking things easy.

 

Building them is hard. 

 

Our president pressured another government to investigate his leading political rival. That’s about as bad as it gets, DR’s rubber/glue argument notwithstanding. Just because Dems did awful stuff doesn’t make upping the ante somehow OK. 

 

 

 

:lol:

 

Waiting on PROOF of that last paragraph, still.

 

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26 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

No, I put country before globalism every day.

 

 

You’re Trump before country. He called for another country’s president (elect) to investigate his front runner opponent, then called for it domestically. 

 

That should trouble you. When did he do this? 18 months ago before Biden ran? No. A year ago before he announced? No. 

 

He did it when Biden is ahead in every poll. Is it politically motivated. Oh yeah it is. 

 

Trump puts Trump before country too, so you guys have that in common. 

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8 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

You’re Trump before country. He called for another country’s president (elect) to investigate his front runner opponent, then called for it domestically. 

 

That should trouble you. When did he do this? 18 months ago before Biden ran? No. A year ago before he announced? No. 

 

He did it when Biden is ahead in every poll. Is it politically motivated. Oh yeah it is. 

 

Trump puts Trump before country too, so you guys have that in common. 

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

 

His lawyer admitted he did it. 

 

But even if there was a recording, you wouldn’t care. Just admit that and we can drop it. You put Trump before country every day. 

For Pete's sake dude you started the Russian collusion thread three years ago with stuff like "the entire intelligence community agrees........".

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45 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

Lot course not.  And if anyone suggests it be done it should be clear that they are a danger to our country.

 

Here is the flowchart:

 

If a Democrat is being investigated, the process dictates all.  Line 1 of the process is that all accusers must be democrats.

 

If a Republican is being charged, all that matters is the charge, guilt must be assumed and it is definitely a constitutional crisis.

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8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Lot course not.  And if anyone suggests it be done it should be clear that they are a danger to our country.

 

Here is the flowchart:

 

If a Democrat is being investigated, the process dictates all.  Line 1 of the process is that all accusers must be democrats.

 

If a Republican is being charged, all that matters is the charge, guilt must be assumed and it is definitely a constitutional crisis.

 

BUZZ

 

Wrong again 

 

Bad actors should get called on BS, regardless of party. 

 

9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

 

Sure you can dumb dumb. But maybe the president should have called for it before Joe was the leading Dem candidate. And maybe he could have asked someone other than another country's president to do it. 

 

Let's do the limbo-rock Joe: How low can you go?

 

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

For Pete's sake dude you started the Russian collusion thread three years ago with stuff like "the entire intelligence community agrees........".

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

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47 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

BUZZ

 

Wrong again OGTcrayonz 

 

Bad actors should get called on BS, regardless of party. 

 

 

Sure you can dumb dumb. But maybe the president should have called for it before Joe was the leading Dem candidate. And maybe he could have asked someone other than another country's president to do it. 

 

Let's do the limbo-rock Joe: How low can you go?

 

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

That was BS put out there 2 1/2 years ago and has been debunked here ad nauseum.

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59 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

What is the definition of interfered?   They brought some facebook ads but even Obama says not votes were changed.  You use the narrative to make it sound like there was more impact than in reality.

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

But it didn't. Ever. Three years later and you still don't get what happened in 2016 because you still trust the word of proven liars.

 

In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies – the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency – and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies. Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.

 

 

 

And fun fact -- if you read the ICA, rather than reports about the ICA, and listen to the testimony of Mike Rodgers, you'd understand the NSA only put their confidence in the report at 50%. 

 

So it was really just the FBI and CIA who agreed... and not even them since, in a move which violated protocol established post 9/11 regarding information sharing, Clapper and Brennan compartmentalized the investigation in both CIA and FBI to a small team of less than 12. All of whom have been fired for cause in the ensuing three years. 

(And, coincidentally, it was the same FBI/DOJ personnel tapped by Brennan who were working on the Mid Year Exam investigation into Clinton... It was always a coup)

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