Clyde Smith Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 51 minutes ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Paul McGuire Ok dude, that was used already, come again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Ok dude, that was used already, come again. Sorry I didn't read through the 5 pages of drivel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Sorry I didn't read through the 5 pages of drivel All good, just busting your balls Bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said: All good, just busting your balls Bro. LOL...no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Rex's last year - when that Seattle game was - was Schmidt's worst season. And he was still better than this clown. His leg dropped off a year ago. I said when he was signed "no leg left" and his pre-season showing confirmed it. He line drives it though. Give me a guy who kicks it 40 and hangs it every single time. He's been with the team 5 weeks, is a rookie, and for the most part has been fine. He averaged 47.3 per punt in his last year of college, so the kid may actually have a pretty bomb leg. I imagine it takes time to meld with your coverage team, and coach. We're starting a rookie QB who is raw, and we aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. Why not try and see if we can find someone with potential to be great at punter - vs. keeping who we had that was mediocre to poor. Edited October 10, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, dneveu said: He's been with the team 5 weeks, is a rookie, and for the most part has been fine. He averaged 47.3 per punt in his last year of college, so the kid may actually have a pretty bomb leg. I imagine it takes time to meld with your coverage team, and coach. We're starting a rookie QB who is raw, and we aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. Why not try and see if we can find someone with potential to be great at punter - vs. keeping who we had that was mediocre to poor. I would say you are focusing far too much on the leg. Yes this kid has a big leg... but it is like having a QB with a big arm and none of the other requisite skills (I am talking in general not about Josh before anyone flames away). It is worthless. He is a big reason we keep giving up big returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I would say you are focusing far too much on the leg. Yes this kid has a big leg... but it is like having a QB with a big arm and none of the other requisite skills (I am talking in general not about Josh before anyone flames away). It is worthless. He is a big reason we keep giving up big returns. Right - but like... we're a team developing talent. He has more raw ability than schmidt or ryan - the potential to be good/great some day. Adding a new punter at this juncture isnt the difference between playoffs and non-playoffs. So why not see if we can develop that potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, dneveu said: Right - but like... we're a team developing talent. He has more raw ability than schmidt or ryan - the potential to be good/great some day. Adding a new punter at this juncture isnt the difference between playoffs and non-playoffs. So why not see if we can develop that potential? I take that point. I just don't see the potential in this. I just see a guy who can kick it miles. That isn't potential to me it is just a big leg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I take that point. I just don't see the potential in this. I just see a guy who can kick it miles. That isn't potential to me it is just a big leg. Yeah - i see what you're saying. Hopefully they can tap into something and he can improve into a more well rounded punter. Schmidt was really good with the coffin corners, and he would get the bounce back on his short punts. However, Schmidts bad days were really really bad. In college it seems like you always line up straight behind the center and just kick the crap out of it. He needs to better learn how to use where he's standing to trick the returner - how to create some different spin on the ball to make it trickier to return - in addition to better directional kicks and hangtime. Edited October 10, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 6:51 PM, JXCOL3 said: We should cut everybody and start over. Get it done Beane Agreed. How about we cut everybody, move the team to Toronto, and just start fresh with a new Bills franchise in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:06 AM, BuffaloSol said: That blunder last week can not happen more than once or twice a season sure but the kid is a rookie. You think that blunder can happen twice in a season...because he's a rookie? Have you ever seen a holder just randomly stand up then immediately try to place the ball before? 17 hours ago, Success said: He’s been great - one bad play. It’s awesome to finally have a guy who can boom it over 50 fairly often. It's actually been two horrible plays in 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I would say you are focusing far too much on the leg. Yes this kid has a big leg... but it is like having a QB with a big arm and none of the other requisite skills (I am talking in general not about Josh before anyone flames away). It is worthless. He is a big reason we keep giving up big returns. That long return last week was 90% blown tackle (I think Deon Lacey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Agreed. How about we cut everybody, move the team to Toronto, and just start fresh with a new Bills franchise in a few years. No one is suggesting that, stop being ridiculous. Our punter is making insane mistakes, this is a very appropriate discussion. Thankfully the team brought in two punters to workout so they're acknowledging the issue and looking into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He's no Zoltan Mesko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: Ok dude, that was used already, come again. ...Reggie Roby............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Right - but like... we're a team developing talent. He has more raw ability than schmidt or ryan - the potential to be good/great some day. Adding a new punter at this juncture isnt the difference between playoffs and non-playoffs. So why not see if we can develop that potential? In a league where punters are being changed frequently, I don’t see the point in keeping someone who isn’t good just for the sake of hoping you can develop him. Put him on the practice squad if that’s what you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: In a league where punters are being changed frequently, I don’t see the point in keeping someone who isn’t good just for the sake of hoping you can develop him. Put him on the practice squad if that’s what you want to do. I don't really think that hes been this bad that we would have to do this. JMO I also don't claim to know much about the intricate layers of punting and punt coverage. He's had a couple bad returns against him in 5 weeks, and I'm sure he has something to do with it. I just don't really know if that's all on him, nor does PFF for that matter - there were quite a few missed tackles on the titans one... In any case - I'd like to see more fair catches, and more directional kicking. But why all the hate on a rookie punter? It's not like bringing in marquette king is going to get us to the super bowl. If any thing it costs TP like 2 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Bojangles is gone when Sterling Hofrichter turns pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Bojangles is gone when Sterling Hofrichter turns pro. She was great in Young Frankenstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 hours ago, fridge said: You think that blunder can happen twice in a season...because he's a rookie? Have you ever seen a holder just randomly stand up then immediately try to place the ball before? It's actually been two horrible plays in 5 games. At least I've had a few people agree with me in this thread. I concur that the 2 blunders vastly outweigh the average yardage stats. I'm more concerned with what happened on that 'fake FG' than if he had just fumbled it or fully committed to the fake and threw an incompletion. The way he reacted I think he went into the play with the mindset that it's probably a fake, but he's not entirely sure, so if no one runs a route he's going to place the ball back down for Hauschka to kick it. The indecision baffles me. If he truly thought it was a fake why would he try to place the ball again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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