klos63 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Logic said: He's only "starting" tonight as part of the regular QB rotation. The head coach himself said that he still considers all three QBs to be on equal footing and the competition is still ongoing. The fans may have written off AJ McCarron, but I don't believe the coaching staff has done the same. I'm not so sure of that. Third preseason game is generally the final warmup for the regular season with starters getting much more playing time. It's significant that he is starting this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm more concerned that Dawkins doesn't play & Josh gets creamed. If he doesn't play well, no big deal, apparently he's responding really well to coaching & improving every week, so it will just be back to the drawing board to work out the kinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, bobobonators said: We all go in the fetal position and cry. heads will explode and excuses will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Playing behind a suspect ( “ crappy”) O line is an adverse situation for a young QB. But can it make a QB play scared and shell shocked? I say no. It recalls that old Marv-ism about adversity not building character, but rather revealing it. Allen doesn’t strike me as a player that’s shook or plays with fear. The fact is we don’t know. We have these expectations of players, but really don’t know what’s inside that makes them tick. I’d suggest that if a potentially good player becomes “ ruined” because they had to play in less than perfect scenarios, they didn’t really have it from the start. It just took some adversity before the truth was revealed. 2 2 Oh boy, how soon we forget about JP Losman, Trent Edwards, EJ and the last 20 or so QB's since the Jim Kelly days. JP was shell-shocked at the end and seeing phantom sackers. Edwards was concussed into oblivion. EJ was never given the chance to fully develop for several reasons and so on and so on down through the years. If you were to look back at the history of this franchise they built a quality offensive line three times in that 50+ year history and in those three times one was the AFL championship teams, one was during Chuck Knox's time and the last was the super bowl era. Knox came to Buffalo and he inherited a decent line from the Electric Co/OJ days and in 1980 going into his third year in Buffalo he drafted an OG by the name of Jim Richter in the first round who ended up playing in the NFL 15 years. He was a stalwart LG all through those super bowl years too. Bill Polian drafted a pro bowl LT by the name of Will Wolford and brought in a center by the name of Kent Hull who went on to become an all-pro. Jack Kemp had some great lines, Joe Ferguson had some decent lines and Kelly had some really good lines. If you want this young man to develop properly you can't send him to the wolves and hope he survives it like Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman did. Because so, so many other bright young QB's didn't survive throughout the years. Beane and McD look to be smart enough to know that since they made the playoffs last season there really isn't great pressure to win games this season. Do they want to, sure! Do they want to ruin* the future franchise QB, no! Lastly, looking at the limited amount of time AJ McCarron had in the pocket against the Browns starting defense and how little yards McCoy gained against them I'm thinking that Buffalo Bills starting line is worse than godawful. Allen played against the Browns second string. I'm also thinking that the Bengals defense is better than the Browns defense. Edited August 25, 2018 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Oh boy, how soon we forget about JP Losman, Trent Edwards, EJ and the last 20 or so QB's since the Jim Kelly days. JP was shell-shocked at the end and seeing phantom sackers. Edwards was concussed into oblivion. EJ was never given the chance to fully develop for several reasons and so on and so on down through the years. If you were to look back at the history of this franchise they built a quality offensive line three times in that 50+ year history and in those three times one was the AFL championship teams, one was during Chuck Knox's time and the last was the super bowl era. Knox came to Buffalo and he inherited a decent line from the Electric Co/OJ days and in 1980 going into his third year in Buffalo he drafted an OG by the name of Jim Richter in the first round who ended up playing in the NFL 15 years. He was a stalwart LG all through those super bowl years too. Bill Polian drafted a pro bowl LT by the name of Will Wolford and brought in a center by the name of Kent Hull who went on to become an all-pro. Jack Kemp had some great lines, Joe Ferguson had some decent lines and Kelly had some really good lines. If you want this young man to develop properly you can't send him to the wolves and hope he survives it like Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman did. Because so, so many other bright young QB's didn't survive throughout the years. Beane and McD look to be smart enough to know that since they made the playoffs last season there really isn't great pressure to win games this season. Do they want to, sure! Do they want to ruin* the future franchise QB, no! Lastly, looking at the limited amount of time AJ McCarron had in the pocket against the Browns starting defense and how little yards McCoy gained against them I'm thinking that Buffalo Bills starting line is worse than godawful. Allen played against the Browns second string. I'm also thinking that the Bengals defense is better than the Browns defense. You're right. Better trade Allen for his own safety. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What if Josh and Nasty Nate BOTH have had games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: You're right. Better trade Allen for his own safety. Who said anything about trading him? I was saying keep the rookie on the bench for at least the first four regular-season games considering how formidable those defenses are. You know, so he survives to actually become a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: we can always switch from nate to josh. we cannot turn back once allen starts. we will be fine. Will it take 5 interceptions this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Nihilarian said: Who said anything about trading him? I was saying keep the rookie on the bench for at least the first four regular-season games considering how formidable those defenses are. You know, so he survives to actually become a franchise QB. Because the defense he'll play after the first four weeks are going to be cream puffs, right? It's just a silly argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Knee jerk pigs flying from the sky hitting people and doom and gloom will be wide spread Then after a day or so the board will calm down and realize he is a rookie......that the offense is a totally unfinished product as far as protection and pass catcher's go.....and we will move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob&Doug said: What if we don't post stupid **** on this forum ???? Well then SDS would need to use half the storage space at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Because the defense he'll play after the first four weeks are going to be cream puffs, right? It's just a silly argument. It's not silly to me when I can remember Ryan Fitzpatrick literally running for his life for most of the first half of the 2010 season. You know, the season Buddy Nix stated that "you're going to think I'm crazy. But we're not that far away." Then the team started 0-8 and finished 4-12. To me, that 2010 offensive line looks better than this slew of scrubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob&Doug said: Best GIF Ever......... I like how it looks like the whiskey is flowing into bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Accurate as well as succinct. Suck what?! I don't swing from that side of the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Edited August 25, 2018 by THE SLAMMER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 No mercy for the weak. Get his playbook and cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: What if Josh and Nasty Nate BOTH have had games? Honestly, for people that are all in on starting Allen, this is the best case scenario. If Allen is bad and Peterman comes in and tears it up, you can 99.9% count on Peterman starting the season. If they both suck tomorrow, Allen still may have a good shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Honestly, for people that are all in on starting Allen, this is the best case scenario. If Allen is bad and Peterman comes in and tears it up, you can 99.9% count on Peterman starting the season. If they both suck tomorrow, Allen still may have a good shot don't forget about AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: Honestly, for people that are all in on starting Allen, this is the best case scenario. If Allen is bad and Peterman comes in and tears it up, you can 99.9% count on Peterman starting the season. If they both suck tomorrow, Allen still may have a good shot No it isn't. The best case scenario is for him to show well against the Bengals' 1st team defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it isn't. The best case scenario is for him to show well against the Bengals' 1st team defense. Right, but if Allen is bad, Peterman also playing bad may help Allen's cause. Best case for Allen is for him to light it up tommorow and Peterman to be mediocre or worse. The Allen people ultimately should just root for Peterman to be bad no matter what Edited August 25, 2018 by Steptide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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