YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 What if the offense looks better thru week 3? too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 That'll learn him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 All this for Zach Freaking Smith. Worst WR coach ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Sounds like Urban can't rejoin the team until after the opener, can coach thru the week, but not on game day in weeks 2 and 3... god help Ryan Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What if the offense looks better thru week 3? too soon? It’s really up to you to decide on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 we still don’t know if any DV took place and I’m not sure if any evidence will be in the investigative report... I’m very anxious to read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Not nearly as impactful but whatev I’m not really a fan of Smith so if this is a step toward replacing him then I’m fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Only sorry we are in this situation. Oh the hubris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Willyville Guy said: I’m not really a fan of Smith so if this is a step toward replacing him then I’m fine with it. I think he will just retire after this year 2 hours ago, iinii said: Only sorry we are in this situation. Oh the hubris. He clearly doesn’t see her as a victim. Unfortunately, most of America does so that was the wrong thing to say. Need to come up with something better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Ohio State: where football is more important than protecting abused women. On 8/1/2018 at 11:40 PM, Mr_Robotulism said: See ya scum. Can we just kick out the Big 10 East Division out of NCAA athletics, sexual abuse scandals at Penn St. and Michigan St. and DV cover-up at Ohio St. Yes, well, unlike OSU, PSU and MSU handled their situations. Edited August 23, 2018 by joesixpack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 11:00 AM, Trogdor said: The fans are treating it the same way with the us versus them. I mean even if Herman told people that Smith abused his wife, who the !@#$ cares. That still means Smith is the POS. I would actually say the Baylor thing was probably just as bad as Penn State. The players there literally beat up a teammate who was going to testify for a victim. And if that turned out to not be true? i suppose we shouldn’t dig for motive from coach Herman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: And if that turned out to not be true? i suppose we shouldn’t dig for motive from coach Herman? Side note on Herman, which is irrelevant to the investigation but yet interesting to some people - the strip club partner of Zach Smith on the recruiting trip was Tom Herman. The report mentioned it was another OSU coach, but left out his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Ohio State: where football is more important than protecting abused women. Yes, well, unlike OSU, PSU and MSU handled their situations. Issue is that no one believes she was abused including her own mother and most importantly the police. This is a highly reputable police department. It is Ohio law to arrest and press charges for any sign of abuse. They have responsibility to act. They could be held liable for doing nothing. Why hasn't she filed a law suit against police? I agree with the suspension after reading the report, but not for anything DV related. Edited August 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm not sure if this was posted previously, but it provides great insight as to who/what Urban Meyer really is. Almost makes me like Nick Saban. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/audience/george-diaz/os-ae-tim-tebow-urban-meyer-florida-ohio-state-20180806-story.html Twenty-five players were arrested 31 times during Meyer's tenure at Florida. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Issue is that no one believes she was abused including her own mother and most importantly the police. This is a highly reputable police department. It is Ohio law to arrest and press charges for any sign of abuse. They have responsibility to act. They could be held liable for doing nothing. Why hasn't she filed a law suit against police? I agree with the suspension after reading the report, but not for anything DV related. Hey, man. I'm just going with the spirit of the times here. All women are to be believed automatically, all the time. Ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Hey, man. I'm just going with the spirit of the times here. All women are to be believed automatically, all the time. Ya know? What sucks is that she may have been abused, we do not know. If she was and Urban knew that he should have fired him regardless of whether he was arrested. But firing him would not have protected her from abuse. It would, however, have protected the program from being associated with his personal issues. But in the end he trusted the police on it and the university believes more should have been done overall to keep this guy in check, regardless of whether any DV actually took place. I agree with that. I don’t think urban should have to monitor every assistant’s personal life but if it spills over into his work (it did, per the report) he needed to take real action and he chose not to, by his own admission, out of loyalty to Zach’s family. Instead he tried to help him with counseling, rehab, etc. i get that but when he’s lying about recruiting visits you have to draw the line. It’s not fireable (for cause, anyway) because the committee found he didn’t violate anything he was required to do. But I certainly understand some kind of punishment, given the way he runs this program very strictly.... for everyone *but* Zach Smith it appears. Edited August 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Guess Urban has a good option for his next gig Edited August 23, 2018 by plenzmd1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Guess Urban has a good option for his next gig This is !@#$ing awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Bob Ley should just state how he feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 FWIW, I’m fine with the suspension for the same basic reason stated repeatedly here and in the Go Bucks thread: Urban let a loose cannon and bad coach hang around the program for too long out of loyalty to Coach Bruce and he got burned for it. Zach Smith is a clown and a jackass and a terrible example for student athletes. Urban knew it and should have fired him sooner, so the suspension is justified in my opinion. Since the investigation concluded that no legal or contractual obligations were broken, the trustees were correct in deciding that Urban shouldn’t be fired. Sorry for your loss, haters. But that’s pretty much it. I still don’t know what to think about Courtney Smith and her claims of abuse. I tend to accept the conclusions of the police investigations as well as Courtney’s own mother who said that Courtney is lying. However, I was particularly dismayed to learn that the OSU investigation confirmed the disputed report that Coach Bruce himself went to Florida in 2009 to dissuade Courtney Smith from coming forward. That’s a sad and disturbing addition to his legacy. Courtney deserves a process that is concerned with her story (and maybe that already happened, but it’s worth double-checking) without the irrelevant sideshow of who within OSU’s or Texas’s athletic departments knew or should have known. Finally, the narrative that OSU cares more about winning than domestic violence is completely bogus. Keeping Smith on staff was never about winning. He’s not a good coach and provided no competitive advantage. To the contrary, the investigation concluded that Smith’s job performance was a problem in the past few years. This is about nepotism and letting someone hang around because he was in the Ohio State football family. And again, the truth of Courtney’s claims are far from clear under the circumstances. I am sensitive to the issues of victim shaming and the difficulties of proving allegations of abuse that by their nature occur in private and are hard to prove with extrinsic evidence. Still, anyone who jumps to conclusions based on the convoluted and conflicting information available in this scenario must be results-driven and not concerned with the truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 I think Drake may have won the battle but lost the war... I heard the BOT was already looking to get of him because of the issues with the hospital leaders https://twitter.com/davebiddle/status/1032986665810309120?s=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 8:21 AM, Cripple Creek said: And if that turned out to not be true? i suppose we shouldn’t dig for motive from coach Herman? Well since the story was that he did it because of a recruit that doesn't actually fit the timeline, I don't really see a reason. If he outed Smith it was to hurt Smith. If Meyer didn't do his due diligence, that's on him. He's not just some random State employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 1:51 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Bob Ley should just state how he feels. ...it's called "saving my $8 mil/yr job and my arse"..... ...Jim Tressell approves of this message.....(COUGH)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Mark May got his virtue- signal comments in yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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