GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: If the coaches are holding to a depth chart versus reps, I'd say he's second on the depth chart behind McCarron. I think that is correct. But part of that is also I think by design. They WANT Allen to get a lot of playing time (probably the whole 2nd half) in the 1st pre-season game against 3rd stringers in the hope he has some success and it is a confidence builder. After that 1st game Allen will be "released" from his position anchored at the 3rd spot and it will then be a depth chart based purely on performance. Then Peterman will find himself 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 19 hours ago, prissythecat said: Yours is looking increasingly like a sinking ship. Why keep propping Peterman up? Highlighting Peterman's off-season progress is just that, I don't think that's propping him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: For some perspective on the likelihood of Peterman developing, here is a list. Since 2001 these are the QBs drafted in the 5th round or later: - Mike McMahon ... - Logan Woodside The best 3 players on the list are Tyrod, Fitz and McCarron. We always hear “yeah but Tom Brady.” The reality is that is a total outlier. 1 This list is great--I've shared it with a few people. I have to laugh that you identify McCarron as in the top 3 on that list though. He hasn't done jack, though he looks like the guy who might be starting week 1. Granted, having a pulse for 4 years in the NFL gets you into the top 7 of that list, but at least Trevor Simien was a starter for a time. Edited July 31, 2018 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Highlighting Peterman's off-season progress is just that, I don't think that's propping him up. What progress is that by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: This list is great--I've shared it with a few people. I have to laugh that you identify McCarron as in the top 3 on that list though. He hasn't done jack, though he looks like the guy who might be starting week 1. Granted, having a pulse for 4 years in the NFL gets you into the top 7 of that list, but at least Trevor Simien was a starter for a time. Yeah, I’m comfortable dropping McCarron into the next tier with Siemian and Anderson. There are a handful of guys that can be debated for 3. I think it’s pretty tough to have anyone but Tyrod and Fitz as 1 & 2. It really is a truly awful list of sucktitude. Bruce Gradkowski is unquestionably in the top 10%. It really does provide some perspective as to what we are looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, prissythecat said: What progress is that by chance? The work he's put in to improve the velocity on his throws from last season, for one. The media guys attending training camp have acknowledged a legit increase in velocity behind his throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, BurpleBull said: The work he's put in to improve the velocity on his throws from last season, for one. The media guys attending training camp have acknowledged a legit increase in velocity behind his throws under perfect conditions where he has time and can set his feet. updated for context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Did he throw a 50 yard pass even on the play you're citing? Direct quote from the same article you're quoting: Peterman shows off the arm Josh Allen gets all the big headlines when it comes to the deep ball, but Peterman showed he can sling it when he needs to get downfield. Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher. Where does it say there that he completed a 50 yard pass or, much less, threw a ball that travelled 50 yards in the air? Are you living in la la land? It was said on the radio by one of the bills reporters. Why don't you just give the Nate hate a break for a while and see how the next month goes. You must've cried and threw a fit when Trump got elected....lol...oh I forgot the reporter....may have been Chris brown, clearly said that it was 50yds in the air. Edited July 31, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: updated for context No matter how you want to spin it, it's an increase in velocity that wasn't present last season and acquired through putting in work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, BurpleBull said: No matter how you want to spin it, it's an increase in velocity that wasn't present last season and acquired through putting in work. I think you actually "spin" it better than Peterman does under actual game conditions like pressure in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, BurpleBull said: No matter how you want to spin it, it's an increase in velocity that wasn't present last season and acquired through putting in work. Yes, yes. I'm the one spinning it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yes, yes. I'm the one spinning it You are clearly the one trying to discredit what Peterman has added to himself through work and repetition. You're the one adding to quotes for the sake of subtraction. Not me. I merely stated a fact...and you apparently don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: You are clearly the one trying to discredit what Peterman has added to himself through work and repetition. You're the one adding to quotes for the sake of subtraction. Not me. I merely stated a fact...and you apparently don't like it. you're purposely ignoring the reporting out of sheer ignorance When Peterman gets his feet set in pocket there is a noticeable difference in zip on the ball from last year. But as he’s rolling out and can’t set-up (throwing on the run) it’s still too late getting there giving DBs opportunities. — Sal Capaccio ? (@SalSports) July 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Sorry, I had to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Sorry, I had to. No worries. I was literally seconds away from posting this exact tweet when you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 hours ago, BurpleBull said: If the coaches are holding to a depth chart versus reps, I'd say he's second on the depth chart behind McCarron. Are you still predicting that he will be the week one starter? Do you feel there is something you've seen that would indicate he will overtake McCarron, and not be overtaken by Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Nathan Peterman: "My goal is to be a starter" (12:45) Bills QB Nathan Peterman joined One Bills Live from training camp to discuss the quarterback competition and his goals for himself entering his second season with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I want Peterman to be a HOFer or a memorable franchise quarterback more than anyone. My screen name would be legendary. Short of that happening I want to see Josh Allen right away.. and I want wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I want Peterman to be a HOFer or a memorable franchise quarterback more than anyone. My screen name would be legendary. Short of that happening I want to see Josh Allen right away.. and I want wins. Maybe just lock down the screen name DougAllenThrew5Picks just to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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