OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 12:29 PM, Mr. WEO said: He's been paid millions since he got into the league. Shouldn't need new income to pay child support. ..$5.29 mil pre-tax probably leaves him net of $2.65 mil which I'd bet is long gone.... Cleveland Browns WR Josh Gordon has career earnings of $5.29M over four seasons, which ranks 652nd among active NFL players entering 2018. He earned $377K in 2017, which ranked 149th among WRs and 1380th overall in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..$5.29 mil pre-tax probably leaves him net of $2.65 mil which I'd bet is long gone.... Cleveland Browns WR Josh Gordon has career earnings of $5.29M over four seasons, which ranks 652nd among active NFL players entering 2018. He earned $377K in 2017, which ranked 149th among WRs and 1380th overall in the NFL. They don't determine your child support based on your income as it compares to other people at your job. I'm guessing it's a couple thousand a month. You just documented that he made 377K last season. I bet the judge agreed he can and must pay what he owes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They don't determine your child support based on your income as it compares to other people at your job. I'm guessing it's a couple thousand a month. You just documented that he made 377K last season. I bet the judge agreed he can and must pay what he owes.... ...certainly agree and was not implying anything else.....say $377k last year was a net after taxes of $190k or about $16k/mo......not much sympathy from any judge.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, MJS said: That's a huge stretch. He had one good season. That's all. Weed is still banned at the federal level. Until that changes I doubt the league will change its policy. I disagree. Odds are that when the next contract is negotiated there will be a more lax policy toward marijuana. As more states legalize this particular product the likelihood increases that the league will have a much more lenient approach to weed. As I stated before the NBA doesn't test for this particular product. It hasn't hurt their standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnC said: I disagree. Odds are that when the next contract is negotiated there will be a more lax policy toward marijuana. As more states legalize this particular product the likelihood increases that the league will have a much more lenient approach to weed. As I stated before the NBA doesn't test for this particular product. It hasn't hurt their standing. There is a difference between pre-existing, like the NBA, and changing, which the NFL would be doing. Is it hypocritical? Maybe. But you know the moment the NFL makes that change the media would blast it, noting the "NFL Goes Green...Condones Pot!" Parent groups would get whipped into a frenzy like a poked beehive. The backlash would be enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, The Red King said: There is a difference between pre-existing, like the NBA, and changing, which the NFL would be doing. Is it hypocritical? Maybe. But you know the moment the NFL makes that change the media would blast it, noting the "NFL Goes Green...Condones Pot!" Parent groups would get whipped into a frenzy like a poked beehive. The backlash would be enormous. I respectfully but strenuously disagree with you. Changing drug laws with respect to weed is steadily happening all over the country. In the not too distant future there will be a change in league policy moving in the direction of leniency toward the drug. What is holding up the change in policy is that the league is trying to use this issue to extract concessions in other areas. https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/1/16095328/nfl-marijuana-pain-management-collective-bargaining-4d940deee498 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnC said: I disagree. Odds are that when the next contract is negotiated there will be a more lax policy toward marijuana. As more states legalize this particular product the likelihood increases that the league will have a much more lenient approach to weed. As I stated before the NBA doesn't test for this particular product. It hasn't hurt their standing. It will still be a banned substance. Maybe less harsh penalties. The owners won't budge on this because the NFLPA refuses meaningful HGH testing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It will still be a banned substance. Maybe less harsh penalties. The owners won't budge on this because the NFLPA refuses meaningful HGH testing as well. The threshold will probably be raised before a disciplinary action would be taken. So it won't be banned so much as be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: The threshold will probably be raised before a disciplinary action would be taken. So it won't be banned so much as be limited. that would surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: I respectfully but strenuously disagree with you. Changing drug laws with respect to weed is steadily happening all over the country. In the not too distant future there will be a change in league policy moving in the direction of leniency toward the drug. What is holding up the change in policy is that the league is trying to use this issue to extract concessions in other areas. https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/1/16095328/nfl-marijuana-pain-management-collective-bargaining-4d940deee498 Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's about public opinion. The NFL already has PR nightmares (see Anthem Protests), they're not going to outright condone pot right now when the backlash from parents and activist groups would be scathing. I'm curious, do you not think there would be severe backlash, or do you think the NFL would push through despite it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Red King said: Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's about public opinion. The NFL already has PR nightmares (see Anthem Protests), they're not going to outright condone pot right now when the backlash from parents and activist groups would be scathing. I'm curious, do you not think there would be severe backlash, or do you think the NFL would push through despite it? Public opinion has dramatically changed over the past few years The public is much more tolerant of the drug now than in the past. And as time goes by it becomes even more tolerant. If you believe differently that's fine. Edited July 26, 2018 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: Public opinion has dramatically changed over the past few years The public is much more tolerant of the drug now than in the past. And as time goes by it becomes even more tolerant. If you believe differently that's fine. So, you don't think there will be signifigant public backlash from parent and activist groups should the NFL condone it? Even if the general public is more accepting, there would still be a massive backlash from a vocal minority. Would the NFL want to face that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Red King said: So, you don't think there will be signifigant public backlash from parent and activist groups should the NFL condone it? Even if the general public is more accepting, there would still be a massive backlash from a vocal minority. Would the NFL want to face that? I'm confident that at this point the public doesn't give a dam about the league's drug policy, especially as it pertains to marijuana. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm confident that at this point the public doesn't give a dam about the league's drug policy, especially as it pertains to marijuana. Im against legalized MJ. That said it doen nothing to improve performance or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Red King said: So, you don't think there will be signifigant public backlash from parent and activist groups should the NFL condone it? Even if the general public is more accepting, there would still be a massive backlash from a vocal minority. Would the NFL want to face that? The parents are baked. The mj industry is blowing up. Smoke > Drink all day long. Some have things to do the next day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fadingpain Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The first episode airs on Tuesday, August 7th, at 10:00pm. Will definitely be following this one this year. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ?♂️ ...until Tyrod doesn't throw to him. XD I'm fascinated that a team that went 0-16 is getting more love and higher marks from the press then a team that went 9-7 and broke a decades-long playoff drought. Just what's in that Cleveland Kool-Aid? ...zero to hero, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 REMINDER: This premiers this Tuesday night (8/7/18) at 10:00pm on HBO! It's getting close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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