aristocrat Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Keenum had excellent weapons in a system that made him look good. The Bills don't have that and good luck on McCarron who's in Buffalo as a bridge QB at best. Jesus. If our oc can’t run a system that makes aj look competent what’s he gonna do with a high prize rookie? So what you’re saying is our front office can’t draft and get guys that fit our system? That star and Murphy aren’t guys that will play well? If they can’t find draft picks in the second and third I’d say it’s a good chance according to you they draft the wrong qb right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Jesus. If our oc can’t run a system that makes aj look competent what’s he gonna do with a high prize rookie? So what you’re saying is our front office can’t draft and get guys that fit our system? That star and Murphy aren’t guys that will play well? If they can’t find draft picks in the second and third I’d say it’s a good chance according to you they draft the wrong qb right? You're posting as if the team will be championship caliber in 2018 based on what happens this offseason. Edited April 14, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 If we don’t get Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen there will be hell to pay. Next year Mahomes is gonna light it up and Bills fans will realize no matter how good Tre White is, he DOESNT throw touchdowns. If the Bills fail this year I’m out and may they never win a super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) I'll say this, to me, Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield are the only three guys I would trade up in front of pick 7 for. Everything else at QB is a reach. Allen's value to me is not even what Mahomes was last year. At least Mahomes had crazy numbers (yards, TD/INT ratio). His biggest concerns were coming from a spread offense and his horrible mechanics/footwork. Allen has the latter concerns but he has pedestrian numbers against weak talent. I'd put him in the 15-32 range. I'm taking Roquan Smith, Derwin James, Denzel Ward, Will Hernandez, Trumaine Edmonds before I take Allen, Rudolph, or Jackson. I only see Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield as top 15 guys. And I would go Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, in that order from a production and polish standpoint. Edited April 14, 2018 by NewEraBills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 worst case scenario is giving up a king's ransom in picks only to get Allen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're posting as if the team will be championship caliber in 2018 based on what happens this offseason. Turn around can happen quick. If star and Murphy live up to potential so go along with Hughes we actually do have a pass rush. We get a legit mlb better than Preston and Davis plays healthy and well all year our defense looks really good. I have a lot of confidence in our drafting after last years draft. You say they if they can’t get the qb basically we whiff on all draft picks and we are awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Paulus said: Rather McCarron than Allen, Jackson, and the non-first round projections. Allen at 12 is okay. What’s about day two which QB got the most potential to become a starter ? ( if any ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They have no QB. The OL is porous. The WR corps is terrible. They lack pass rush. Yeah, look out. This team needs quite a bit and getting it there will not be job done this offseason. like the optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Turn around can happen quick. If star and Murphy live up to potential so go along with Hughes we actually do have a pass rush. We get a legit mlb better than Preston and Davis plays healthy and well all year our defense looks really good. I have a lot of confidence in our drafting after last years draft. You say they if they can’t get the qb basically we whiff on all draft picks and we are awful? That's a lot of ifs regarding the defense, but the offense has major holes at QB, OL, and WR. Confidence in the draft? This is Beane's 1st. Let's hope he gets it right starting with QB that he knows is the key to the future. 3 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: like the optimism. Shocking coming from the guy who thinks every Bills' player is a hall of famer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Turn around can happen quick. If star and Murphy live up to potential so go along with Hughes we actually do have a pass rush. We get a legit mlb better than Preston and Davis plays healthy and well all year our defense looks really good. I have a lot of confidence in our drafting after last years draft. You say they if they can’t get the qb basically we whiff on all draft picks and we are awful? This is a rebuild man. The offense has the chance to be worse than last year. Imagine that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Chiefs' worst case scenario. Mahomes blows out his knee on the 1st day of camp. Bills’ worst case scenario. Peterman wins the starting job and throws 10 interceptions in the home opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's a lot of ifs regarding the defense, but the offense has major holes at QB, OL, and WR. Confidence in the draft? This is Beane's 1st. Let's hope he gets it right starting with QB that he knows is the key to the future. Shocking coming from the guy who thinks every Bills' player is a hall of famer. Not mcds who ran last years draft. Based on the signings from last year I have confidence in the guys this year . Will they be all pros? No. But they can absolutely be very good. Like I said. If we are our out of the qb race and we whiff on all these picks like you’re saying we have the wrong front office and I don’t want them picking the qb anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Rico said: The worst would be if the Browns/Giants took Darnold, the Jets take Mayfield, and Miami trades up for Rosen. I'll take it further the Patriots trade up for Rosen Edited April 14, 2018 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Playoffs? said: Bills’ worst case scenario. Peterman wins the starting job and throws 10 interceptions in the home opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, The_Dude said: If we don’t get Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen there will be hell to pay. Next year Mahomes is gonna light it up and Bills fans will realize no matter how good Tre White is, he DOESNT throw touchdowns. If the Bills fail this year I’m out and may they never win a super bowl. Watson fell in our lap as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Not mcds who ran last years draft. Based on the signings from last year I have confidence in the guys this year . Will they be all pros? No. But they can absolutely be very good. Like I said. If we are our out of the qb race and we whiff on all these picks like you’re saying we have the wrong front office and I don’t want them picking the qb anyways. Based on the signings last year? Those people are not with the team. I don't think they intend on using all of those picks with some being used to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: This is a rebuild man. The offense has the chance to be worse than last year. Imagine that Oh it absolutely does. I’m hoping Daboll is the right hire. Random qbs have decent seasons all the time. I’m hoping we get one of those this year at least. 3600 yards, 24 tds 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Based on the signings last year? Those people are not with the team. I don't think they intend on using all of those picks with some being used to move up. Mcd was here and running the show. And you know what this thread is about if we don’t move up for a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Oh it absolutely does. I’m hoping Daboll is the right hire. Random qbs have decent seasons all the time. I’m hoping we get one of those this year at least. 3600 yards, 24 tds Mcd was here and running the show. And you know what this thread is about if we don’t move up for a qb. 3600 yards and 24 TDs? Throwing to what players? Beane is here and running the show now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 3600 yards and 24 TDs? Throwing to what players? Beane is here and running the show now. Mcd is still here to and I’m sure is working with him. So what you’re saying is that essentially these guys can’t draft any other position outside of qb. And that the free agent signings won’t make a difference? I’ve said I have confidence in them drafting great players of they can’t get a qb prospect. Is that so ridiculous? Mccown threw for for those types of yards with less talented receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I expect that Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen will go in the top 4 picks and that none of those teams are interested in trading down. Allen is likely to be a bust- all arm and not much accuracy. We get Rudolph with #12 and go about the rest of our draft. Rudolph is well balanced, smart and has a log of upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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