DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22935229/nfl-institutes-rule-lowering-head-initiate-contact-helmet Quote ORLANDO, Fla. -- NFL owners passed an unexpected rule Tuesday that will expand penalties for helmet-to-helmet contact, one that is more significant and far-reaching than the NCAA's targeting rule. Under the change, a player will be penalized 15 yards and potentially ejected any time he lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. It will apply to tacklers, ball carriers and even linemen, and it will take the place of a previous rule that limited the penalty to contact with the crown of the helmet. ... IMO this is even bigger than the catch rule coming out of the owners meetings. Big move, and I like it. Finally getting serious about enforcing proper tackling technique. AND it applies for offensive players too. No more helmets as weapons. Keep your heads up, fellas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 How the Hell do you tackle without lowering your head? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: How the Hell do you tackle without lowering your head? The right way. Face up. See what you're hitting, hit with your chest/shoulder, break down, slide your head, and drive through. Edited March 28, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: The right way. Face up. See what you're hitting, hit with your chest/shoulder, break down, slide your head, and drive through. Watch how the Seahawks teach it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: The right way. Face up. See what you're hitting, hit with your chest/shoulder, break down, slide your head, and drive through. I can see a 15-yard penalty on just about every play. A guy drops his head to make a shoulder contact and it could be interpreted a million different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Watch how the Seahawks teach it. Yep. 3min in, Eyes Through the Thighs, Wrap and Squeeze, Drive for 5. Real simple. And effective! 3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I can see a 15-yard penalty on just about every play. A guy drops his head to make a shoulder contact and it could be interpreted a million different ways. Nah, it's about using it as a weapon, as the lead point of contact. Big difference and fairly easily identifiable. I'm not sure if you've played, so forgive me if youre experienced, but it's way easier to do it right than the modern era would lead you to believe. Edited March 28, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just high school. Players now don't like the wrap up, they want to knock you off your feet. We'll see how it goes but Refs make so many bad calls now I hope they get this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Green Lightning said: Just high school. Players now don't like the wrap up, they want to knock you off your feet. We'll see how it goes but Refs make so many bad calls now I hope they get this right. Yeah, thats the problem, and it's bleeding all the way down to high school level and younger. I'm sure there will be some blown, or at the very least, arguable calls. But this is something they've needed to regulate and enforce for a while now. Coaches and players had more than enough time to get themselves straight, and they've failed. Time to start penalizing and ejecting if they can't play right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I can see a 15-yard penalty on just about every play. A guy drops his head to make a shoulder contact and it could be interpreted a million different ways. It says initiating contact with the head...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Solid move. One step in saving the game from concussions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in NoCal Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 And paralyzing neck injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 So....does this include mushroom stamping? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just cancel the league. Bang bang plays will happen and teams will lose games over interpretations by the refs. Look forward to the lengthy delays ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 There is such thing as overdoing it. They should be eliminating some of these rules and speeding up the tempo of the game and ref involvement. So not only do we have to deal with a commercial break every 30 seconds, now we're going to have to stop the game 50 times a game. SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The main issue with this in cfb is it is inconsistently applied, even with review. And the automatic ejection is very impactful to the outcome of the game. Players will need to be coached specifically to this rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm all for protecting players, but it seems the league (and now the owners) are doing their best to make this sport unwatchable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I get why they created the rule, but it really came out of nowhere and it changes the game more than they might realize. I'm sure the Shazier injury had a lot to do with this. That was a nightmare for the league and there's enough bad press about concussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The main issue with this in cfb is it is inconsistently applied, even with review. And the automatic ejection is very impactful to the outcome of the game. Players will need to be coached specifically to this rule. Yeah, there will always be human error, but I remember agreeing with ejections more often than not. And players should have been coached this way the entire time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The main issue with this in cfb is it is inconsistently applied, even with review. And the automatic ejection is very impactful to the outcome of the game. Players will need to be coached specifically to this rule. Bingo. Just making the job of the refs harder and requiring more judgement calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think you will find that it isn't that difficult to see if someone has lead with his helmet. Get a few players ejected early on, and they will quickly start to realize they have to do things the right way. The NFL needs to start ejecting the idiots, regularly, because it's about the only way they can actually enforce discipline in games. Fines after the events, are necessary, but do absolutely nothing to stop guys at the time. Getting rid of offenders, will often also deflate any toxic atmopsphere that may be building on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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