Scorp83 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 This Draft is probably the most interesting Draft I've seen in recent years & I've been watching football for while. The hype to move up is bigtime... but has anyone considered the Bills possible backup plan. It doesn't seem like the Giants will move out of 2... & the Browns are noted by plenty of beat reporters to not move out of 1 & 4... the 3rd pick is a wrap. A trade partner for the Bills seems non existent for the moment. Then if we do have a partner, teams are trying to fleece us for almost everything we have. So what's out end game here??? Take Ridley at 12? Roquan Smith at 12? I doubt if they trade out of 12. Then Mason Rudolph seems like there guy. Look... I can spit out who I want them to take... it's nice to want things. But I want to know what could be the backup plan? I think they love Darnold... but know he's going 1st overall... Quiet, mild manner, deep in faith, all about the team... is Derm kinda guys... the only guy I think that matches those intangibles is Rudolph, but he just isn't as talented as Darnold. Do you take him at 12? I'm getting to the point, that trading up the draft is fools gold right now. Any thoughts? Oh... Here's another interview on the QB's, if you haven't got a chance to listen yet. Enjoy! 3-23 Schopp and the Bulldog Hour 3 - Eric Galko http://www.wgr550.com/media/podcast/schopp-and-bulldog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 No clue.. but if 3 or 4 QB's are taken in the top 11 picks there will be some mighty fine football players available at 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 of which round? the 2nd maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, slaphappy said: No clue.. but if 3 or 4 QB's are taken in the top 11 picks there will be some mighty fine football players available at 12. Oh boy. Color me excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Oh boy. Color me excited. Ok but I'm not staying inside the lines. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Ok but I'm not staying inside the lines. THAT is funny! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: This Draft is probably the most interesting Draft I've seen in recent years & I've been watching football for while. The hype to move up is bigtime... but has anyone considered the Bills possible backup plan. It doesn't seem like the Giants will move out of 2... & the Browns are noted by plenty of beat reporters to not move out of 1 & 4... the 3rd pick is a wrap. A trade partner for the Bills seems non existent for the moment. Then if we do have a partner, teams are trying to fleece us for almost everything we have. So what's out end game here??? Take Ridley at 12? Roquan Smith at 12? I doubt if they trade out of 12. Then Mason Rudolph seems like there guy. Look... I can spit out who I want them to take... it's nice to want things. But I want to know what could be the backup plan? I think they love Darnold... but know he's going 1st overall... Quiet, mild manner, deep in faith, all about the team... is Derm kinda guys... the only guy I think that matches those intangibles is Rudolph, but he just isn't as talented as Darnold. Do you take him at 12? I'm getting to the point, that trading up the draft is fools gold right now. Any thoughts? Oh... Here's another interview on the QB's, if you haven't got a chance to listen yet. Enjoy! 3-23 Schopp and the Bulldog Hour 3 - Eric Galko http://www.wgr550.com/media/podcast/schopp-and-bulldog Why not just stay at 12 and take the so-called "Next Michael Vick" aka Lamar "Designed QB Run" Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Ok but I'm not staying inside the lines. So who’s the best dt we can draft at 12? goosebumps. So excited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) I don't know plan A or plan B as far as the draft goes. I can tell you that I think it looks like the bills are positioning to make a jump. If what I think is right then it's foolish to make moving up plan A if you don't at least feel very strongly that you have a trade partner. Ill ask you this. Would you make moving up in the draft plan A if you really thought no one will trade with you? If you don't think anybody will trade with you then don't put it in the plans at all. Then plan B to just sit tight and work the draft is actually plan A. Edited March 24, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: So who’s the best dt we can draft at 12? goosebumps. So excited. The thread title was the Back Up plan.. I said I don't have a clue what a back up plan would be followed by a factual statement. Why you asking me what the back up plan is when I already said I don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, slaphappy said: The thread title was the Back Up plan.. I said I don't have a clue what a back up plan would be followed by a factual statement. Why you asking me what the back up plan is when I already said I don't know? Because I like being difficult ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Because I like being difficult ? I'm assuming they are moving up to draft a QB.. I don't think there is a plan B after they moved up to 12. Just a matter of who they want and how much farther up they need to go to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So plan B means waiting until at least 2020 to get a QB. Sounds like a dirt poor plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 just from what i have gathered about the mcbeane collaborative...i think they have several plans. i think they have many combinations of possible player options with assigned values, weighted by position and impact. but i believe all of these moves will be predicated on how well they fit into "the process". they have to add more to the team than just talent. i believe this draft is integral to the core of the team moving forward. they are looking for the futere leaders of the buffalo bills. the heart and soul of the next generation of championship contenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Wait on QB - it's not all that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I have thought about it a lot. plan a- trade up into the top 2 for Darnold or Rosen plan b- trade up into the to 10 for Mayfield plan c- draft Mike White in the second round, draft a blue chip LB and DT in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Oh boy. Color me excited. How do you feel about Johnny "football"? He's out there..ready and willing.You do believe in third chances...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Scorp83 said: This Draft is probably the most interesting Draft I've seen in recent years & I've been watching football for while. The hype to move up is bigtime... but has anyone considered the Bills possible backup plan. It doesn't seem like the Giants will move out of 2... & the Browns are noted by plenty of beat reporters to not move out of 1 & 4... the 3rd pick is a wrap. A trade partner for the Bills seems non existent for the moment. Then if we do have a partner, teams are trying to fleece us for almost everything we have. So what's out end game here??? Take Ridley at 12? Roquan Smith at 12? I doubt if they trade out of 12. Then Mason Rudolph seems like there guy. Look... I can spit out who I want them to take... it's nice to want things. But I want to know what could be the backup plan? I think they love Darnold... but know he's going 1st overall... Quiet, mild manner, deep in faith, all about the team... is Derm kinda guys... the only guy I think that matches those intangibles is Rudolph, but he just isn't as talented as Darnold. Do you take him at 12? I'm getting to the point, that trading up the draft is fools gold right now. Any thoughts? Oh... Here's another interview on the QB's, if you haven't got a chance to listen yet. Enjoy! 3-23 Schopp and the Bulldog Hour 3 - Eric Galko http://www.wgr550.com/media/podcast/schopp-and-bulldog Great interview! I would not be surprised if the Bills like Rosen, Rudolph, and White. They all appear to be the type of QB that Beane is looking for. I'm also glad that I am not crazy for liking White as a day two prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: Great interview! I would not be surprised if the Bills like Rosen, Rudolph, and White. They all appear to be the type of QB that Beane is looking for. I'm also glad that I am not crazy for liking White as a day two prospect. A day two prospect will bring this franchise back to the glory years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <heavy sarcasm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: A day two prospect will bring this franchise back to the glory years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <heavy sarcasm> Who you taking if the Giants won't trade at any price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, slaphappy said: Who you taking if the Giants won't trade at any price? Exactly, you have to plan for the worst case scenario. Hopefully we are able to trade up for a franchise QB but if we can't we need to find a prospect in the second round that has some starting traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlBillsFan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I would rather draft both Jackson at 12 and Rudolph at 22 than giving the farm to trade up to 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Scorp83 said: A trade partner for the Bills seems non existent for the moment. Then if we do have a partner, teams are trying to fleece us for almost everything we have. So what's out end game here??? Beane gets canned because he let the Jets jump up to #3 and got boxed out. McD gets canned becuase he said he could win with Tyrod and passed on Watson & Mahomes and talked the team out of trying to trade up for Trubisky. We then get to hire a HC and GM again in the next 3-4 seasons and we rinse and repeat... Edit: That isn't a back up plan - it is the actual truth in regards to what will happen... Edited March 24, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 My back-up plan would be trade down from 12 for a late 1st or early 2nd this year and a 1st next year, and trade a 2nd for another 1st next year. Draft BPA at 22, Draft Rudolph or White in Round 2, and keep enough draft capital going forward that next time we don't miss out when a potential franchise QB becomes available in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Lfod said: Ill ask you this. Would you make moving up in the draft plan A if you really thought no one will trade with you? This is a good question... I don't think it is plan A... I do think they want to trade up... but they need a partner... & it doesn't look like they have a trade partner 52 minutes ago, MtlBillsFan said: I would rather draft both Jackson at 12 and Rudolph at 22 than giving the farm to trade up to 2. Hmmmm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, MtlBillsFan said: I would rather draft both Jackson at 12 and Rudolph at 22 than giving the farm to trade up to 2. Well I can't argue with that. It wouldn't upset me if that's how it end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Scorp83 said: This Draft is probably the most interesting Draft I've seen in recent years & I've been watching football for while. The hype to move up is bigtime... but has anyone considered the Bills possible backup plan. It doesn't seem like the Giants will move out of 2... & the Browns are noted by plenty of beat reporters to not move out of 1 & 4... the 3rd pick is a wrap. A trade partner for the Bills seems non existent for the moment. Then if we do have a partner, teams are trying to fleece us for almost everything we have. So what's out end game here??? Take Ridley at 12? Roquan Smith at 12? I doubt if they trade out of 12. Then Mason Rudolph seems like there guy. Look... I can spit out who I want them to take... it's nice to want things. But I want to know what could be the backup plan? I think they love Darnold... but know he's going 1st overall... Quiet, mild manner, deep in faith, all about the team... is Derm kinda guys... the only guy I think that matches those intangibles is Rudolph, but he just isn't as talented as Darnold. Do you take him at 12? I'm getting to the point, that trading up the draft is fools gold right now. Any thoughts? Oh... Here's another interview on the QB's, if you haven't got a chance to listen yet. Enjoy! 3-23 Schopp and the Bulldog Hour 3 - Eric Galko http://www.wgr550.com/media/podcast/schopp-and-bulldog Rudolph in the second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Nick Foles - god help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Nick Foles - god help us. Heck No! Ill... yuck....Why?!?! 8 hours ago, swnybillsfan said: just from what i have gathered about the mcbeane collaborative...i think they have several plans. i think they have many combinations of possible player options with assigned values, weighted by position and impact. but i believe all of these moves will be predicated on how well they fit into "the process". they have to add more to the team than just talent. i believe this draft is integral to the core of the team moving forward. they are looking for the futere leaders of the buffalo bills. the heart and soul of the next generation of championship contenders. I like this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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