Rico Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Sounds like fun ! Ereck Flowers was mentioned above. If we have to give 3 1sts to get to two, i want Flowers and a second back. can we fit Flowers into the budget this year though ? kinda have to trust the guys running the Show on this , don't we ? Absolutely. I trust that they will make a good choice. Even more than that, I trust that they will cut their losses and move on quickly if it's obvious he won't work out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, Rico said: Absolutely. I trust that they will make a good choice. Even more than that, I trust that they will cut their losses and move on quickly if it's obvious he won't work out. if that is under consideration , do you feel they should not reach for a QB ? You draft the Guy at #2 . he had best work out ! Or you have to question the scouting and Beanes side of the equation perhaps ? This is not like drafting EJ Manuel , cuz you had try for a franchise QB in a year of leeser QBs overall. To me this draft is likely to produce a couple long term QBs. Frencheyes Qbs even maybe : ) Go get him or admit you can't and build the rest of the Team. take a flyer on a later round QB and hope like hell AJ works out. as you say though. I gots me some faith this time around Bills will do us proud. regardless of how they see the board and if they feel a good trade or 2 is on the table. Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 The only way it's acceptable to draft Allen is if Mayfield or Rosen are already off the board and we had no opportunity to move up to get them. If nobody wants to trade then so be it. If they move up and take Allen with any of those 2 still available then they might as well be gambling and if wrong they deserve to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: if that is under consideration , do you feel they should not reach for a QB ? You draft the Guy at #2 . he had best work out ! Or you have to question the scouting and Beanes side of the equation perhaps ? This is not like drafting EJ Manuel , cuz you had try for a franchise QB in a year of leeser QBs overall. To me this draft is likely to produce a couple long term QBs. Frencheyes Qbs even maybe : ) Go get him or admit you can't and build the rest of the Team. take a flyer on a later round QB and hope like hell AJ works out. as you say though. I gots me some faith this time around Bills will do us proud. regardless of how they see the board and if they feel a good trade or 2 is on the table. Go Bills I would prefer never ever burning a Day 1 or Day 2 pick on any major project, QB or not. Day 3 or UDFA, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 no question, i agree. But taking a QB is nearly always like taking a project. rarely is a College QB a "lock " this season included. I think there are a couple in there very early in the draft that will succeed long term if brought into the best environment. Transitioning to NFL for QBs is no small task these days. spread offense and quick reads bleecchht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: agreed. would not be surprised. But i feel he will move if it is a Win for the Bills as well.. Disciplined i might describe Him/Them. could be and exciting draft. and could be a boring one for the Bills as they sit on 12 or thereabouts. I will sure be watching. first two picks will tell the story Thursday If he can make a good deal he will definitely do that. I'm good in whatever direction he chooses to go. Many ways to climb the mountain. I can take that position b/c I'm not tied to any one QB due to the fact they all have obvious ?'s. The best of the bunch might turn out to be one of the "2nd tier" QBs. Beane traded Watkins and Darby two weeks before the season started. Kept Boldin on the retired list despite rumblings he wanted to play. Shipped Marcel out. Traded Cordy. Let EJ Gaines walk for peanuts. Traded Tyrod after a playoff season. COLD BLOODED. This regime will get their type of guys (on-field and off) and those who are found not to fit, in either respect, will be out the door at the best available opportunity. Beane ain't playing games, and he does not care how many tears the fans shed in the process, and trust, last August I was hotter than fish grease after those trades. Edited April 22, 2018 by purple haze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: no question, i agree. But taking a QB is nearly always like taking a project. rarely is a College QB a "lock " this season included. I think there are a couple in there very early in the draft that will succeed long term if brought into the best environment. Transitioning to NFL for QBs is no small task these days. spread offense and quick reads bleecchht I would not draft anyone, QB or otherwise, on Day 1 or Day 2 who I felt would not be ready to start by their 2nd year. That’s a major project to me, and I don’t have time to wait, not in the modern NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Rico said: I would not draft anyone, QB or otherwise, on Day 1 or Day 2 who I felt would not be ready to start by their 2nd year. That’s a major project to me, and I don’t have time to wait, not in the modern NFL Patience is often considered virtuous . but no one has the time for the Flower to bloom. especially Fandom in the NFL 3 hours ago, purple haze said: If he can make a good deal he will definitely do that. I'm good in whatever direction he chooses to go. Many ways to climb the mountain. I can take that position b/c I'm not tied to any one QB due to the fact they all have obvious ?'s. The best of the bunch might turn out to be one of the "2nd tier" QBs. Beane traded Watkins and Darby two weeks before the season started. Kept Boldin on the retired list despite rumblings he wanted to play. Shipped Marcel out. Traded Cordy. Let EJ Gaines walk for peanuts. Traded Tyrod after a playoff season. COLD BLOODED. This regime will get their type of guys (on-field and off) and those who are found not to fit, in either respect, will be out the door at the best available opportunity. Beane ain't playing games, and he does not care how many tears the fans shed in the process, and trust, last August I was hotter than fish grease after those trades. never heard that before. may i borrow it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Patience is often considered virtuous . but no one has the time for the Flower to bloom. especially Fandom in the NFL never heard that before. may i borrow it ? I pass it on to you from the hoods of urban America, my friend. Use it well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, PIZ said: Oh I see... they are just now getting around to this item on their agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, Big C said: Oh I see... they are just now getting around to this item on their agenda. Final boards just got set last week. Timing of this isn't surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ya know what? !@#$ the New York Football Giants. We’re staying at 12. That’s the smart move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Ya know what? !@#$ the New York Football Giants. We’re staying at 12. That’s the smart move. It would be smart if the Bills didn't need a QB. Since they do, it may be unwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It would be smart if the Bills didn't need a QB. Since they do, it may be unwise. Nahhh. Sucker’s bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Ya know what? !@#$ the New York Football Giants. We’re staying at 12. That’s the smart move. I’m starting to think the same thing. Roll the dice and sit back. BBB Brass Balls Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Nahhh. Sucker’s bet. You believe the Bills can get one of the top QBs on their board at 12 ? Why do you think this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, PIZ said: !@#$ you gettleman give us our pick already 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: You believe the Bills can get one of the top QBs on their board at 12 ? Why do you think this? Because I was always taught “when in doubt...don’t”. Meaning: If none of these guys are a “lock” then build your base. Win the war...rather than the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, BringBackFergy said: Because I was always taught “when in doubt...don’t”. Meaning: If none of these guys are a “lock” then build your base. Win the war...rather than the battle. Most drafts don't have " lock" QBs , if there is such a thing. Still doesn't answer the question , though. I take it you do not think the Bills can get one of their top rated QBs at 12. I don't either. I do think it's very possible they believe strongly in one or two of these QBs and will try to move up to get that player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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