3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, LA Grant said: Oh my lord. I can't make your busted brain work for you, you dumbass corncob. You're going to have to fire those little synapses on your own, too. You are telling me the Founders intended for 2A to be immutable, but not for 1A to be immutable. This is a contradiction. A contradiction is a combination of ideas that are opposed to one another. You don't want an argument with contradictions in your logic, because logic requires validity. Logic cannot be valid if it is contradictory. Your argument is built on contradictory logic, which is what we consider "a bad argument," of which you are the proud owner. Many happy returns, you sick stupid mutant. Grant, you ignorant slut, go get it changed. The mechanism is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's actually just two separate ideas, you dumb !@#$. Child Porn was not in the founder's intention. Not allowing restrictions on the ability of private citizens to arm themselves was. You are proving too stupid to insult. Gahhh you're so dumb. So you're attempting to say that you alone know the Founders' intent, then? How do you know what they considered "free speech" and what wasn't? How do you know what they considered "arms" and what wasn't? Arms in 1700s were very different from our present day, just as free speech was very different. How do you know the Founders considered school shootings acceptable, but not child pornography? Is the second amendment more important than the first? I'm sure it is, to you, because you're only arguing NRA talking points, and the second amendment is the center of the universe to the NRA. That's why the fundamentalist argument doesn't work in general, and certainly not as sloppily as you attempted to use it. You're not arguing about the Bill of Rights at all. You're arguing "I like guns and I don't want to be inconvenienced getting guns." Edited February 25, 2018 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's actually just two separate ideas, you dumb !@#$. Child Porn was not in the founder's intention. Not allowing restrictions on the ability of private citizens to arm themselves was. You are proving too stupid to insult. I know what those !@#$ers meant 200 years ago! Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: Gahhh you're so dumb. So you're attempting to say that you alone know the Founders' intent, then? How do you know what they considered "free speech" and what wasn't? How do you know what they considered "arms" and what wasn't? How do you know the Founders considered school shootings acceptable, but not child pornography? Is the second amendment more important than the first? I'm sure it is, to you, because you're only arguing NRA talking points, and the second amendment is the center of the universe to the NRA. That's why the fundamentalist argument doesn't work in general, and certainly not as sloppily as you attempted to use it. You're not arguing about the Bill of Rights at all. You're arguing "I like guns and I don't want to be inconvenienced getting guns." This is what the Supreme Court does. All the time. And yes, the Second Amendment actually protects all of the Amendments, as well as our basic liberties. It is certainly vital. I'm educating you on how our government works. This is so cute. "You're arguing "I like guns and I don't want to be inconvenienced getting guns." " Where do you come up with this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, LA Grant said: Way ahead of you, as always. Already did this on page 8. But sure, if you want to be shamed again, sure. Here's you from page 8. Below is Wayne, a few hours earlier. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, right? hahaha. '"The elites don’t care not one whit about America’s school system and school children,” he said to a favorable reception at the conservative event. “If they truly cared, what they would do is they would protect them. For them it’s not a safety issue, it’s a political issue. They care more about control and more of it, their goal is to eliminate the Second Amendment and our firearms freedoms so that they can eradicate all individual freedoms.” http://www.newsweek.com/wayne-lapierre-nra-cpac-guns-816294 Revising this previous estimate. I think it might just be 20,000 posts of LABillzFan mentioning Hillary. It's sad. Ah yes, here again comes the idea that these mass shootings are orchestrated media events. Plants! George Soros! Crisis Actors! Anything, anything but guns. No, its anything but the nasty human being who did the deed, as long as it fits the america hating agenda. To simpletons its guns, trump, the air, etc etc etc because, you know, guns pull guns triggers because cnn and huff told them so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, thebug said: I know what those !@#$ers meant 200 years ago! Lol Another student. Welcome to 200 years of history where our government interprets intent. Did you guys not finish high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: This is what the Supreme Court does. All the time. And yes, the Second Amendment actually protects all of the Amendments, as well as our basic liberties. It is certainly vital. I'm educating you on how our government works. This is so cute. "You're arguing "I like guns and I don't want to be inconvenienced getting guns." " Where do you come up with this stuff? Does the First Amendment protect us and our basic liberties? Is it vital? Why is it OK for restrictions there, but not on the Second Amendment? Even someone as dull as you has to be making this connection by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Another student. Welcome to 200 years of history where our government interprets intent. Did you guys not finish high school? Yeah, because government is so smart! They are dumber than you !@#$s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: Does the First Amendment protect us and our basic liberties? Is it vital? Why is it OK for restrictions there, but not on the Second Amendment? Even someone as dull as you has to be making this connection by now. I was using "protect" in the sense of ACTUAL physical protection. If the government banned free speech tomorrow, the first amendment wouldn't do squat. The second would give us the means to defend ourselves. It's okay for restrictions of the First when it comes to child porn because I do not believe that Tommy Jefferson and the gang fought a war over child porn, nor believed child porn the sort of speech they were trying to protect. Now tell me I'm an NRA member for the 19th time. 3 minutes ago, thebug said: Yeah, because government is so smart! They are dumber than you !@#$s! Wtf are you talking about now? Here's a tip. Start with "I'm Just a Bill" and go slow from there. You may have something to contribute by 2020 if you study hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: I was using "protect" in the sense of ACTUAL physical protection. If the government banned free speech tomorrow, the first amendment wouldn't do squat. The second would give us the means to defend ourselves. It's okay for restrictions of the First when it comes to child porn because I do not believe that Tommy Jefferson and the gang fought a war over child porn, nor believed child porn the sort of speech they were trying to protect. Now tell me I'm an NRA member for the 19th time. Wtf are you talking about now? Here's a tip. Start with "I'm Just a Bill" and go slow from there. You may have something to contribute by 2020 if you study hard. Thanks! I’m glad you know what they meant. You are special. Not just tard special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, thebug said: Thanks! I’m glad you know what they meant. You are special. Not just tard special. Are you arguing that the entire basis of our government is fundamentally flawed? Or are you just punching way above your weight and have no idea what you're talking about? Edited February 25, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Are you arguing that the entire basis of our government is fundamentally flawed? Or are you just punching way above your weight and have no idea what you're talking about? I’m saying your are like church freaks. You interpret it as you see fit to what fits your BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, thebug said: I’m saying your are like church freaks. You interpret it as you see fit to what fits your BS. What does our government do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: What does our government do? Govern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, DC Tom said: ...Point of note: England is moving to regulate and even ban the sale and possession of knives - including kitchen knives - because of the epidemic of knife fatalities. So no, it's not a strawman argument. It's an actual, real thing, regulating kitchen cutlery. oh, i know it's no strawman, i was completely serious. on a bit of a different tangent but also being deadly seriousand not to hurt the sensabilities of the sensative but... those with guns do not get loaded onto trains willingly. 5 hours ago, LA Grant said: Does the First Amendment protect us and our basic liberties? Is it vital? Why is it OK for restrictions there, but not on the Second Amendment? Even someone as dull as you has to be making this connection by now. the attack on the First Amendment is well under way. 8 hours ago, LA Grant said: ... Another common & very lame excuse. The same stupid logic works the other way. If AR-15s can be bought as long as you're 18 w/ no convictions, why can't the same kid also buy a grenade launcher or a land mine? Why can't I bear those arms? I need them for hunting and to protect my family. ... ummm... you do understand the impetus for the Second Amendment, right? it was to protect the populace from a totaltarian government. in essence, whatever arrmaments the police state possesses so too should the militia. it's time to get off your progressive high horse and do a bit of history learning. as history is your best predictor of the future. Edited February 25, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, LA Grant said: Does the First Amendment protect us and our basic liberties? Is it vital? Why is it OK for restrictions there, but not on the Second Amendment? Even someone as dull as you has to be making this connection by now. This is a harsh thing to say so I hope you know I don't take it lightly: I think if you moved to Canada, your intellect and ability to use reason might still be well below average. EVEN IN CANADA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, thebug said: Govern? Be specific, in regards to the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Be specific, in regards to the Constitution. Sorry dude, I have a date today with my bbq, some prime rib and pints! You will have to use your copy and paste on someone else. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, thebug said: Sorry dude, I have a date today with my bbq, a date with your bbq. A big black say whaaaaaaa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, LA Grant said: Ah yes, here again comes the idea that these mass shootings are orchestrated media events. At least you're consistent. Unable to defend your thoughts, you create counter arguments that don't exist in hopes you will somehow sound like the sane one. No wonder you're left with nothing but Vox links while calling people pedophiles and plagiarists. But hey...thanks for Trump. Couldn't have done it without you. Edited February 25, 2018 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: a date with your bbq. A big black say whaaaaaaa? Hmmmm. What begins with "Q"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, thebug said: Sorry dude, I have a date today with my bbq, some prime rib and pints! You will have to use your copy and paste on someone else. Cheers! Nice - what are you cooking up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, garybusey said: Nice - what are you cooking up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I thought the same thing, but then considered the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Cinga said: I thought the same thing, but then considered the source The Bug says he's cooking prime rib. Gary asks him what he is cooking. Considering Gary just discovered the BiM weed thread I wonder if it gave him any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Canada is not remotely bbq territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: Canada is not remotely bbq territory But it is Bug country, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 This thread is worth clicking on and reading. Want to know what this is about (as if we didn't already), it's about the dems being broke and needing an influx of cash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: But it is Bug country, right? So he sez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) He fully knew the content on the tapes before the CNN fiasco. Edited February 25, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't know how anyone learns what happened that day and still feels their priority is to make company's give up their discounts for NRA members. That tells me you care more about your ideology and less about the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, LABillzFan said: At least you're consistent. Unable to defend your thoughts, you create counter arguments that don't exist in hopes you will somehow sound like the sane one. No wonder you're left with nothing but Vox links while calling people pedophiles and plagiarists. But hey...thanks for Trump. Couldn't have done it without you. Or you, my friend. As Tasker once said, it takes a village. 13 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I don't know how anyone learns what happened that day and still feels their priority is to make company's give up their discounts for NRA members. That tells me you care more about your ideology and less about the truth. How do you not see that you're just looking for any distraction to avoid talking guns? The sheriff/deputy/police incompetence should be clear evidence that adding MORE guards & guns to schools is not the solution. It does not work. You are not hearing from teachers or veterans in support of this madness. Look who you're agreeing with, you are only hearing this idiocy from crazy people like JMC, Trump, Fox, InfoWars, and the NRA. You seem too otherwise rational to be this thick. Edited February 25, 2018 by LA Grant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Quote Joe ScarboroughVerified account @JoeNBC FollowFollow @JoeNBC This is a critical point. A handful of NRA DC lobbyists live in a bubble, attack law enforcement officers and incite violence with ads. The overwhelming number of NRA members are patriotic, respect the law and disagree with the DC lobbyists’ most extreme views. Quote Cameron KaskyVerified account @cameron_kasky FollowFollow @cameron_kasky To those following our message, please remember the difference between the NRA as an organization and the members of the NRA. The vast majority of NRA members are decent people. Patriots. Our issue is not with them individually. There's been polling. "NRA members are baby killers" didn't do so well. Too late. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: There's been polling. "NRA members are baby killers" didn't do so well. Too late.. Yeah, dude! Get that kid! Get 'im! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: Yeah, dude! Get that kid! Get 'im! You've been quite clear in this thread you don't care about protecting the kids. You only care about stopping shootings with guns. Just saying, if you cared as much as you profess, you'd be asking as many questions about the poor responses by the LEOs, politicians, and school officials... but you're silent on those issues. Wonder why that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You've been quite clear in this thread you don't care about protecting the kids. You only care about stopping shootings with guns. Just saying, if you cared as much as you profess, you'd be asking as many questions about the poor responses by the LEOs, politicians, and school officials... but you're silent on those issues. Wonder why that is. This thread is about gun laws. That might be clear from the title which includes both "law" and "gun." You are providing a distraction tactic to avoid the stated topic. Separate issues, separate threads. But we can agree that you are deranged, rhino. Edited February 25, 2018 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, LA Grant said: This thread is about gun laws. That might be clear from the title which includes both "law" and "gun." You are providing a distraction tactic to avoid the stated topic. Separate issues, separate threads. But we can agree that you are deranged, rhino. Really? Looks from the topic it was about demeaning gun owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Really? Looks from the topic it was about demeaning gun owners. I thought it was about pedophiles, plagiarism and perverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Really? Looks from the topic it was about demeaning gun owners. 46 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I thought it was about pedophiles, plagiarism and perverts. Just doing some good ol' hunting and sniping in PPP, baby. Edited February 25, 2018 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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