Nunes Memo to be Released

[Deranged Rhino]

Priming this thread:

 

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

 

LINK TO THE MEMO: https://www.scribd.com/document/370598711/House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses#from_embed

Edited February 2, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[keepthefaith]

Fantastic.  Mostly I'm looking forward to the stories that the leftist media will run to deflect from this. 

[B-Man]

Transparency! Intelligence Committee Democrats WON’T publicly release their memo; Republicans will

 

Here's the Left's stategy;  Mislead, misdirect, oversell, undersell, spin........................with the willing media.

 

Setting expectations: Rep. Ted Lieu says the Nunes FISA memo is like Al Capone’s vault...................nothing's there

 

 

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Scott Dworkin
✔@funder

There is absolutely no piece of paper like this stupid memo Devin Nunes is blabbing about that changes the fact dozens of Trump team members were in direct contact Russians during the campaign, transition & while in the White House. Anyone saying “release the memo” is a traitor.

5:53 PM - Jan 19, 2018

 

 

 

LOL.....................doesn't that sound familiar.................like every lefty lemming on this board

 

 

 

Trey Gowdy: If you’re interested in the dossier, who paid for it, and Christopher Steele’s relationship with Hillary Clinton – you’ll want this memo to come out

[Tiberius]

Nice timing! Trump administration refuses to impose sanctions on Russia. Putin gets what he wants 

[DC Tom]

38 minutes ago, B-Man said:

dozens of Trump team members were in direct contact Russians during the campaign, transition & while in the White House

 

Yeah...uh, that last one?  Are we really going to complain that the administration in power is talking to foreign countries????  

[snafu]

Going to be interesting to see what was so explosive about the contents of the memo.  It has to be more than just the dossier being used to get FISA warrants on Carter Page -- isn't that already known? Nobody reacted with "shakes our democracy to the core" at the time. 

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, snafu said:

Going to be interesting to see what was so explosive about the contents of the memo.  It has to be more than just the dossier being used to get FISA warrants on Carter Page -- isn't that already known? Nobody reacted with "shakes our democracy to the core" at the time. 

 

Because they assumed the FISA was gotten legally based on sound intelligence. If the memo proves it was given based on unproven and uncorroborated evidence passed off as corroborated evidence by the FBI and CIA then that's a whole different conversation. 

 

If it's unredacted - which it supposedly will be - then I expect to see names named not just inside the FBI/DOJ but inside the USIC itself (Brennan/Clapper). 

 

Remember too what the memo is based upon. It's not Nunes' evidence. It's evidence presented TO Nunes by Rodgers and DNI Coats. That means raw SIGINT - shown to him legally. (refer back to the Flynn-Leak Killer theory I posted back when Flynn plead guilty). 

[snafu]

But perhaps it also is about which US citizens (other then Page) they were trying to claim were foreign agents acting on behalf of a foreign government -- you know, like a puppet.   I'm purely speculating.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2018 by snafu

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, snafu said:

But perhaps it also is about which US citizens (other then Page) they were trying to claim were foreign agents acting on behalf of a foreign government.  I'm purely speculating.

 

We all are at this point. We'll find out soon enough. 

[TakeYouToTasker]

18 minutes ago, snafu said:

Going to be interesting to see what was so explosive about the contents of the memo.  It has to be more than just the dossier being used to get FISA warrants on Carter Page -- isn't that already known? Nobody reacted with "shakes our democracy to the core" at the time. 

If the memo says what I believe it does, it means that our government was opperating as a banana republic, attempting to hold fraudulent elections, all while assuring the people that we hold free and fair elections and subscribe to self-determination, the key to a free society.

 

[snafu]

1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

If the memo says what I believe it does, it means that our government was opperating as a banana republic, attempting to hold fraudulent elections, all while assuring the people that we hold free and fair elections and subscribe to self-determination, the key to a free society.

 

 

 

You mean, we actually live in a cave?!

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

If the memo says what I believe it does, it means that our government was opperating as a banana republic, attempting to hold fraudulent elections, all while assuring the people that we hold free and fair elections and subscribe to self-determination, the key to a free society.

 

 

The memo will open this door, I agree - but I think you're really going to get what you're looking for when Horowitz's report hits. That's the one that's going to blow open years of abuse.

[B-Man]

31 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nice timing! Trump administration refuses to impose sanctions on Russia. Putin gets what he wants 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Yeah...uh, that last one?  Are we really going to complain that the administration in power is talking to foreign countries????  

 

Not to repeat myself Tom, but "they got nothing else"....................they can fool the lemmings with that B.S., so they keep using it.

 

 

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[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, keepthefaith said:

Fantastic.  Mostly I'm looking forward to the stories that the leftist media will run to deflect from this. 

Purging the FBI won't work. Trump is paying off Putin by ignoring the sanctions just like he paid off Stormy Daniels. 

[Deranged Rhino]

[row_33]

 But what is the game plan here for the FBI and the Clintons?

 

there is no war like Nam with heavy counterintelligence

 

there is no Cold War also with heavy cointell

Requirements 

 

there is no US-based terrorist movement bombing government and military and university buildings daily

 

This is all just to.... what???  

 

 

The US government is not seeking the overt overthrow of foreign government by assassination or coup currently 

 

what is is this for???

 

[The_Dude]

This memo had better be buttoned up from top-to-bottom cause if there’s a loose thread they are gonna pull it apart so quick. 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

This memo had better be buttoned up from top-to-bottom cause if there’s a loose thread they are gonna pull it apart so quick. 

 

The memo isn't the end all be all.

 

It's just the start. 

 

But it'll still be torn apart (or tried to be torn apart) regardless of its authenticity or air tightness. There's an entire industry that's just spent the last year drip feeding a narrative to its customers that is now blowing up in their faces. There will be spin. It's already started - from both the left and right (as seen in the recent WSJ op-ed). 

 

It just won't matter. 

[boyst]

What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union?

 

Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow.

[row_33]

7 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union?

 

Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow.

 

his Inaugural Speech was a bit harsh and aggressive, so I would like a repeat of that

 

i expect he will reach out to the Dems to try to work together, hopefully making crossies behind his back....

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union?

 

Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow.

 

I expect him not to mention the memo at all tonight, and to focus on being a uniter as the left and MSM circle the wagons on their collapsing Russian Narrative (hey, there's a NEW dossier coincidentally released today that parrots Simpsons's/Ohr's... written by Clintonites  and paid for with Blumenthal's money - which is partly why he was included in Grassley's memo). The left isn't done beating this dead horse. There are folks like Schiff trying to stay out of jail. 

 

It won't work though. It's just digging their hole deeper. 

 

So, I don't expect him to drop the memo until the bounce from the speech wears off (a day, two days maybe). 

 

Of course there are some out there predicting he's going to read the memo in its entirety tonight at the speech. So who knows. 

[row_33]

i would enjoy the memo shown on a screen the size of a drive-in movie tonight.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

26 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union?

 

Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow.

 

Here's your answer (supposedly):

 

[row_33]

do we get Maxine and some Kennedy to spout off between these great events?

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

do we get Maxine and some Kennedy to spout off between these great events?

 

 

I think there are 5 "resist" speeches after the SOTU, but I might be behind in that count. Seems like every hour they add another person.

[row_33]

what's the prob, they wrote the hater speeches last week, hopefully Trump gives out a false olive branch tonight to make them look even worse

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

what's the prob, they wrote the hater speeches last week, hopefully Trump gives out a false olive branch tonight to make them look even worse

 

 

 

I expect one to be offered. I also expect no one to be watching the rebuttal speeches if he really drops the memo right after the speech. Too many people will be reading that. 

 

It's another win for Trump if that's how it gets rolled out. 

[row_33]

he knows how to grab and hold an audience, especially filled with haters

 

you have to give him that

 

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

he knows how to grab and hold an audience, especially filled with haters

 

you have to give him that

 

 

He's got these nutbags acting like Tony Montana playing whack-a-mole after snorting up his desk.

[TakeYouToTasker]

6 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

He's got these nutbags acting like Tony Montana playing whack-a-mole after snorting up his desk.

He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen.

 

He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him.  Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception.

 

it's been incredible to watch.  You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following:  Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times.  I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington.

[Deranged Rhino]

5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen.

 

He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him.  Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception.

 

it's been incredible to watch.  You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following:  Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times.  I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington.

[GG]

14 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen.

 

He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him.  Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception.

 

it's been incredible to watch.  You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following:  Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times.  I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington.

 

The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House.   He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, GG said:

 

The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House.   He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation.

 

This is incorrect. Trump was read in on the counter-intel op over a year before his announcement to run. 

[GG]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

This is incorrect. Trump was read in on the counter-intel op over a year before his announcement to run. 

 

So you're saying that in 2014, Trump was informed of an operation that was started in 2016?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, GG said:

 

So you're saying that in 2014, Trump was informed of an operation that was started in 2016?

 

The operation did not start in 2016. This is bigger than the election. Patience. 

[GG]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The operation did not start in 2016. This is bigger than the election. Patience. 

 

If that is the case, you have to question the wisdom of the spooks, as Trump should have been among the last people to be informed of that in 2014.

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 minute ago, GG said:

Be 

The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House.   He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation.

I believe that men (as in all of humankind, for the snowflakes among us) are defined by how they respond to the most important circumstances they encounter, and that doing better than people imagined they could under trying circumstances is an incredible positive.  As I said, I don't believe Donald Trump was a great man when he entered office, but he's growing into that mantle.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 minutes ago, GG said:

 

The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House.   He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation.

 

The man has more political savvy and straight up testicular fortitude than I imagined he had.

 

The fact that he's pissing off the far left, the globalist elite AND the republican establishment has me sold on his presidency. If he runs for re-election, he has my vote.

 

[GG]

2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

I believe that men (as in all of humankind, for the snowflakes among us) are defined by how they respond to the most important circumstances they encounter, and that doing better than people imagined they could under trying circumstances is an incredible positive.  As I said, I don't believe Donald Trump was a great man when he entered office, but he's growing into that mantle.

 

We shall see.  So far, he's riding the wave of others, while taking all the credit.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, GG said:

 

If that is the case, you have to question the wisdom of the spooks, as Trump should have been among the last people to be informed of that in 2014.

 

You grossly underestimate the man. That's not meant as a knock. I did the same thing. Trump was recruited by people inside Military Intelligence to run for a reason. Part of that reason is this exact perception. Which is a carefully built facade and one he has leaned into over the course of the year. 

 

Go back through his most controversial tweets over the first year in office. See how those once ridiculed tweets have aged. Then start looking at his tweets in terms of their prescience for what we know now - and what's about to come out.

 

This whole operation could not work unless Trump was read in early. It's a VERY small circle, but Trump's inclusion is key.