3rdand12 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 hours ago, gobills1212 said: Man.. Why didn't anyone else think of that?? 2 years ago there might have been a case. Now he suffers from ' if he was worth his salt why hasn't he supplanted Dalton? I'd imagine there's only one answer... The Team might be a bit off as a whole honestly. Maybe they are waiting for Dalton to miss a game? How do you start him over andy Dalton with Hue being a steady, even boring Coach ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I just don't think we are in a position to make him our starter. I think it makes a ton of sense for the Browns because Hue Jackson knows exactly what he is getting. To put the franchise in this guys hands just doesn't make sense. You better truly believe in him. I think it's much more likely we see an Alex Smith trade and trade up for Darnold/Rosen. That way you get your bridge and high end future starter. AJ McCarron is just spinning wheels again. Edited January 20, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 hours ago, hemma said: Not that I dislike McCarron, but I think he only has 133 career passes and pretty limited playing experience. Rather see a more vetted vet to compete with (and help) the drafted rookie and Peterman. such as Taylor ?? 2 hours ago, PolishDave said: Isn't that an oxymoron? Is extremely possible and different than just possible? I think the word you are looking for is probable - or maybe somewhat probable - or maybe possible but not probable or perhaps not impossible. OR maybe you wanted to say Entirely Possible. I can take a lean of different degrees into the potential possibilities conceptually as to whether any of these descriptors for a state of being are in the realm of probabilities factoring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, PeterGriffin said: What makes him any more desirable to want to play opposed to our own 5th round pick? He won the championship with Alabama at least once. He's been developed already by Cindy. They're good at that, you know, Andy Dalton. In 6 starts, he has the exact opposite TD int ratio as Nasty Nate. 6 TDs 2 ints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If he was better than Dalton he would be starting. If he's not better than Dalton then why would you want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, kdiggz said: If he was better than Dalton he would be starting. If he's not better than Dalton then why would you want him? Come on man. Andy's the started and makes the big bucks. They're not going to bench him unless McCarron is clearly better. he's probably not going to get a chance go show it because Andy makes the big bucks which is why He wants to be a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Come on man. Andy's the started and makes the big bucks. They're not going to bench him unless McCarron is clearly better. he's probably not going to get a chance go show it because Andy makes the big bucks which is why He wants to be a FA. If he was better he would be playing. Coaches dont care who makes what. They just want to win and keep their jobs. Marvin Lewis was almost fired this year. Don't you think if McCarron was better he would have put him in at the very least out of desperation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 18 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Man, I was just thinking about it this. I say YES. Accurate passer. Comes from a winning program. Been through 3 or 4 years of NFL mini camps, training camps,film study,pre season games. Even has a little playoff experience. 6 TDs 2 picks 6.9 ypa 64% completions, 93.6 rate in spot duty. I would try very hard to trade or sign him. Bring back Hotrod. Then draft a good QB if you can. Let them compete in PS. Best QB pLays. I have never understood why when good college QBs go to a team and rides the pine, everyone forgets about them and instead focusses on guys like Josh Allen. Having 3 QBs competing in training camp NEVER works....The TC is to have the team gel as one and play as 11 on the field....Having a 3-headed competition at the most important position is a huge distraction and whoever comes out of that simply outran the other two mediocre....we will be left be a average to below average QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, ganesh said: Having 3 QBs competing in training camp NEVER works....The TC is to have the team gel as one and play as 11 on the field....Having a 3-headed competition at the most important position is a huge distraction and whoever comes out of that simply outran the other two mediocre....we will be left be a average to below average QB Are you sure about that? In 2012, the Seattle Seahawks brought back their incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, highly sought after FA signed Matt Flynn, and 3rd round draftee Russell Wilson to training camp. They had an open competition for QB. It worked for them. That's where I got the idea from. NEVER say NEVER. Edited January 21, 2018 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 McCarron is way better than Peterman (aka "The Kid") will ever be. If they can sign him, they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ganesh said: Having 3 QBs competing in training camp NEVER works....The TC is to have the team gel as one and play as 11 on the field....Having a 3-headed competition at the most important position is a huge distraction and whoever comes out of that simply outran the other two mediocre....we will be left be a average to below average QB Russ Wilson called. He asked me to remind you of the Flynn/Wilson/Tjax trifecta. 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Are you sure about that? In 2012, the Seattle Seahawks brought back their incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, highly sought after FA signed Matt Flynn, and 3rd round draftee Russell Wilson to training camp. They had an open competition for QB. It worked for them. That's where I got the idea from. NEVER say NEVER. Snap, you beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 22 hours ago, EricScott said: Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts? I seriously doubt he is a "fraction" of the cost of Teddy. With Teddy back to back gruesome injuries, no one is going to give him a big deal or a long term deal. He is likely going to sign a cheap 1 year prove it deal somewhere he will be given a chance to start and try and get a big deal next year on the back of a successful year. Some fool will over pay for McCarron who has shown nothing so far though...people overpay for the unproven, but they dont over pay for the injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, OJABBA said: McCarron is way better than Peterman (aka "The Kid") will ever be. If they can sign him, they should. Thanks for posting. I agree. Would be a good pickup for us Imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Thanks for posting. I agree. Would be a good pickup for us Imho. Yeah, we're never gonna see Peterman make those kind of plays. And McCarron pretty much won the playoff game (geezus, could you imagine Peterman playing like that against the Steelers in a playoff game?) until that ridiculous ending where the refs and the idiots on the Bengals defense decided to completely destroy the outcome. I love the trajectory of his passes. Low, and quick to the receiver. Peterman is basically Jeff Tuel, in my eyes. Edited January 21, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, OJABBA said: Peterman is basically Jeff Tuel, in my eyes. LOL Have said the same thing many times myself, except Jeff Tuel was better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 13 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I just don't think we are in a position to make him our starter. I think it makes a ton of sense for the Browns because Hue Jackson knows exactly what he is getting. To put the franchise in this guys hands just doesn't make sense. You better truly believe in him. I think it's much more likely we see an Alex Smith trade and trade up for Darnold/Rosen. That way you get your bridge and high end future starter. AJ McCarron is just spinning wheels again. You realize that you are condemning this team to 3 to 4 years of non competitive play that way. With the major holes this management has ripped into the skill level of the team to get draft capital, then you spend it all on trading for a QB and trading up. You 'might" get a QB, but won't have an Oline or a Dline to support him. Smith needs a strong cast around him to win. He is a game manager, a good one, but still is just a game manager. A rookie QB needs an Oline, TE, and RB to give him the time to learn the game and protect him. Blow all your draft capital on QBs ,and you have nothing left to rebuild a team. It would take another 3-4 to do so without draft capital we have this year. This is a team sport and a QB is only one player. We are not just one QB away from a Superbowl, far from it with all our holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) I think he will be every bit as good as Cousins and Alex Smith, but is younger and will come much cheaper. https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--an-aj-mccarron-scouting-report-233417948.html Edited January 21, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 McCarron would be a great pick-up for the Bills, if there is a chance, get him. He would be a better option than any of the round one QBs in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I want them to draft a top QB prospect, but if there isn't one available, McCarron and 4 picks in the top 56 could be a pretty nice influx of talent (say, 2 d-linemen, a LB, and a WR) that could really change the face of this team quick. The last draft was pretty good, and I think they know what they are doing, draft-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 hours ago, simpleman said: You realize that you are condemning this team to 3 to 4 years of non competitive play that way. With the major holes this management has ripped into the skill level of the team to get draft capital, then you spend it all on trading for a QB and trading up. You 'might" get a QB, but won't have an Oline or a Dline to support him. Smith needs a strong cast around him to win. He is a game manager, a good one, but still is just a game manager. A rookie QB needs an Oline, TE, and RB to give him the time to learn the game and protect him. Blow all your draft capital on QBs ,and you have nothing left to rebuild a team. It would take another 3-4 to do so without draft capital we have this year. This is a team sport and a QB is only one player. We are not just one QB away from a Superbowl, far from it with all our holes. While I hear you, I do not think these moves condemn the team to non competitive play. Beane is focused on sustained success, and while our roster has holes, the core of the roster is pretty good. We have tight ends in Clay and O'Leary, our o-line is serviceable (Mills and Ducasse need replacements) and we have one of the best RB of all time. A healthy Kelvin Benjamin with a second year Zay Jones in the slot and FA receiver like Donte Moncrief gives a young quarterback enough weapons. This team lacks depth more than having glaring holes. Sustained success comes with a true franchise quarterback. It shows foresight and a future path. Signing AJ McCarron or drafting Mason Rudolph simply spins wheels and sticks on band aids. Is McCarron better than Tyrod? Is Rudolph better than Peterman? I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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