Ittakestime Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 This has been discussed a couple times throughout other franchises that were QB needy with multiple picks and I think it is an interesting discussion. A lot of people feel that QBs are like lottery tickets. There really is no guarantee with any of them so the more you draft, the better your chances of hitting is. Let's assume Rosen and Darnold go 1 and 2. That leaves Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph and Jackson as the remaining QBs. Mayfield and Allen are projected between 5-12 while Rudolph and Jackson are projected later. Would you rather package the 2 1sts for Mayfield or Allen OR draft both Rudolph and Jackson at 21 and 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 If it only took two 1sts to get Mayfield, right now I really like him as a prospect, so I would choose that. BUT, I think he's going to go higher than two 1sts will get us, so I choose Rudolph and Jackson. BUT BUT, I also am not convinced that Rudolph and/or Jackson even make it to 21. I think there is going to be a run on QBs in the first and there are a lot of teams ahead of us who could go that route. Either way, I fully support taking 2 QBs. Mayfield & Falk, Rudolph & Jackson, Allen & Lock, whoever. Hedge your bets is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: If it only took two 1sts to get Mayfield, right now I really like him as a prospect, so I would choose that. BUT, I think he's going to go higher than two 1sts will get us, so I choose Rudolph and Jackson. BUT BUT, I also am not convinced that Rudolph and/or Jackson even make it to 21. I think there is going to be a run on QBs in the first and there are a lot of teams ahead of us who could go that route. Either way, I fully support taking 2 QBs. Mayfield & Falk, Rudolph & Jackson, Allen & Lock, whoever. Hedge your bets is my point. I'd be surprised if at least one of them isn't there at 21. I think both of them might be. I'd trade up for Mayfield, btw. I think the two firsts will do it, but combine, Senior Bowl, etc. will probably affect current assessments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 they have too many holes like DL and LB to take more than 1 QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: I'd be surprised if at least one of them isn't there at 21. I think both of them might be. I'd trade up for Mayfield, btw. I think the two firsts will do it, but combine, Senior Bowl, etc. will probably affect current assessments. Yeah, I already kind of regret voting how I did if this is assuming availability of these options. Mayfield is my favorite prospect who we stand a chance to draft. Very interested to see his height, although if he's 5'11" I'm not going to count him out anyways. Heck, maybe that drops him a bit... in a good way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Selecting two QBs in the first round? No! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, jr1 said: they have too many holes like DL and LB to take more than 1 QB Pick one: (A) best front 7 in the league but Peterman starts (B) below average front 7 but we have a franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: This has been discussed a couple times throughout other franchises that were QB needy with multiple picks and I think it is an interesting discussion. A lot of people feel that QBs are like lottery tickets. There really is no guarantee with any of them so the more you draft, the better your chances of hitting is. Let's assume Rosen and Darnold go 1 and 2. That leaves Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph and Jackson as the remaining QBs. Mayfield and Allen are projected between 5-12 while Rudolph and Jackson are projected later. Would you rather package the 2 1sts for Mayfield or Allen OR draft both Rudolph and Jackson at 21 and 22? I think I could say with confidence that no team would ever pick 2 QB's in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 That would probably be the first time ever that a team drafted two QBs in the first round, so I don't see that happening regardless of how the draft/FA shakes out. The way it's set up now, I think the Bills bring in a vet QB, and use those picks on other positions or to move around in the draft. They played their way out of the top QBs lottery, and the Chiefs pick is not high either. It would take a pretty massive package to move up ahead of QB needy teams to draft one of the top 2, and the Bills have plenty of holes and aging players. I don't think they'll be willing to move up to draft the 3rd-4th best prospect. 7 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Pick one: (A) best front 7 in the league but Peterman starts (B) below average front 7 but we have a franchise QB Free agency could change things dramatically... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: That would probably be the first time ever that a team drafted two QBs in the first round, so I don't see that happening regardless of how the draft/FA shakes out. The way it's set up now, I think the Bills bring in a vet QB, and use those picks on other positions or to move around in the draft. They played their way out of the top QBs lottery, and the Chiefs pick is not high either. It would take a pretty massive package to move up ahead of QB needy teams to draft one of the top 2, and the Bills have plenty of holes and aging players. I don't think they'll be willing to move up to draft the 3rd-4th best prospect. Free agency could change things dramatically... I agree FA could change things. I do think that if they think the 3rd QB in the draft is still a franchise caliber prospect, then who cares if he's the 3rd QB? Eli Manning and Rivers have had great careers, but I would go back and trade the farm for Roethlisberger, wouldn't you? I mean I love Lee Evans, but c'mon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Mayfield is the only other guy I’d trade into the top 10 for. I’d be happy if Jackson or Allen fell to us at 21, but I expect both to be gone by then. If we draft Rudolph, I’ll root for him like I rooted for ej. You’re my qb, but I don’t expect much. If we trade up for Rudolph I’d throw up in my mouth. jacksons potential really is amazing, I’d lean that he flops over turns into the next best thing. If we draft him, we better fire Dennison. Which is the main reason why I think he’s close to off of our draft board. Sigh. Could be fun and special in the fu system with coaches and weapons around him, gonna take the perfect situation imo. allen. Don’t know what to think. He’s teammates were really bad. His tool are great. Do they translate with a great team around him? Maybe. I really have no idea but wouldn’t want to trade both 1st rd picks for him. mayfield. Love his attitude. Maybe because I haven’t paid a lot of attention to his outbursts. Throws a nice ball with accuracy. Nice intangibles. Bad footwork. I’d be ok if we traded our 2 firsts for him I suppose, Definite flop potential imo. Just like his upside and never give up attitude, rudolph. Bleh. If we drafted him in rd 4 I’d be excited, if we draft him rd 3 I wouldn’t be pissed. Anytime before that and I don’t really want the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 For Mayfield we would need to get to 4 to Jump ahead of the Broncos and Jets. Even if the Broncos land Cousins I would think you would need to trade into 4 so that the Jets don't. I think that drafting 2 first rounders would be a franchise killer unless one quickly demonstrated they were head and shoulders above the other. If they were anywhere close to one another in production then you are committing yourself to 4 years of QB controversy, which I imagine would have a negative impact on development. So I'm in favor of trading up if there is a guy that is worth it. If our scouts tell us that this is 2004 2.0 then go get the best guy you can get and go as high as you can get to get him. You are better with Eli, Rivers or Ben than you are with Lossman and shaub. If this is another 2011 where there is more hype than quality QBs then take the one you feel is the best when 22 rolls around. in other words it depends on scouting, and evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Pick one: (A) best front 7 in the league but Peterman starts (B) below average front 7 but we have a franchise QB This question answers itself. Look at New England; all the names come and go. And yet they are always in the Superbowl, winning the Superbowl, or almost in the Superbowl. The only 2 names that remain constant are Brady and Belichick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Pick one: (A) best front 7 in the league but Peterman starts (B) below average front 7 but we have a franchise QB This obviously is correct. We need to do whatever it takes to get a QB now. Waiting around is a recipe for disaster. Would you rather have Wentz or Kizer? Because that's what you get when you settle for a later pick QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, ndirish1978 said: This obviously is correct. We need to do whatever it takes to get a QB now. Waiting around is a recipe for disaster. Would you rather have Wentz or Kizer? Because that's what you get when you settle for a later pick QB Irish fan bias aside, I guess I'll go Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Irish fan bias aside, I guess I'll go Wentz. Lol. I wish I didn't have to use him as an example, but he has played quite poorly. Unfortunately, he would probably get 3 years in Buffalo to prove the FO wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm going to take great pleasure in the Bills NOT going after Baker Mayfield and subsequent Mayfield fan meltdowns on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm going to take great pleasure in the Bills NOT going after Baker Mayfield and subsequent Mayfield fan meltdowns on this board. He is a douchebag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Selecting two QBs in the first round? No! So, you need at least one guy who’s actually played in the NFL. You need one vet. Do you have 3 QB’s active? If you put a first round QB on the paractice squad, he’ll get poached for sure. How would this work exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Augie said: So, you need at least one guy who’s actually played in the NFL. You need one vet. Do you have 3 QB’s active? If you put a first round QB on the paractice squad, he’ll get poached for sure. How would this work exactly? I'm against the idea of two QBs in rounds 1 so I'm not sure why you are posing these questions to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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