Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: You'd take those teams' QB's over Taylor? No, those are the teams that I think have worse starting QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 hours ago, Doc said: I was going to post a thread saying that I've change my mind about replacing Taylor next year. I say keep him and build up the team around him. But still try look for the quarterback of the future. I’ve been saying this from day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Denver, Jax, Arizona, Baltimore, Miami, Jets, Cleveland, Titans (and don’t debate this one Mariota has been AWFUL), Take off Baltimore and the Jets and maybe mccown crushed Taylor a few weeks ago Edited January 1, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Has anyone scores on the Vikings this year ? Trubisky will leave Taylor in the dust year 2 just like Goff did. Goff got better with better coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Take off Baltimore and the Jets and maybe Apparently you haven’t watched Flacco over the last few years. He stinks. McCown has a good year but he’s a 38 year-old journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Denver, Jax, Arizona, Baltimore, Miami, Jets, Cleveland, Titans (and don’t debate this one Mariota has been AWFUL), Ok, great -- I appreciate you playing along here. I disagree with JAX, TEN, and BALT. Bortles has been far and away the better QB statistically for his career and Mariota had a bad season, but is younger with a much better skill set and higher ceiling. Flacco has a ring and could still conceivably run a more consistent passing offense better than Taylor -- however, that's definitely debatable and I can see going either way. However, I'll give those to you for the sake of this exercise. Oh, and the Jets depends on whether or not JMcC comes back or not. He's also been statistically better than Taylor overall for the past few years -- and that was playing for Cleveland and The NYJ. So this means thatTaylor doesn't even crack the top 20 for you, correct? Edited January 1, 2018 by twoandfourteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 The recipe: 1. Draft QB in rounds 1/2. Expect price will be too high to move up to top of draft. 2. Keep Tyrod and Peterman. 3. Open competition 4. If Tyrod loses make a trade to a team with a QB injury or worse case cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, those are the teams that I think have worse starting QBs. OK. Thought so. 3 minutes ago, unclepete said: I’ve been saying this from day one Actually I'm changing my mind again. I might start a thread...later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How come when I try to play these videos here it always says "The media could not be played." I have to actually go to the twitter page to play it. It didn't use to do that. I know its nothing you did... just hoping someone could give me some advice on how to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Ok, great -- I appreciate you playing along here. I disagree with JAX, TEN, and BALT. Bortles has been far and away the better QB statistically for his career and Mariota had a bad season, but is younger with a much better skill set and higher ceiling. Flacco has a ring and could still conceivably run a more consistent passing offense better than Taylor -- however, that's definitely debatable and I can see going either way. However, I'll give those to you for the sake of this exercise. So this means thatTaylor doesn't even crack the top 20 for you, correct? Bottles has returned to being Bortles, Mariota has been AWFUL and Flacco stinks. I’d have him ahead of the guys that I listed, so no. He is in a tier with guys like Dalton, Eli, and a few others. It’s the group of guys that you can win with but don’t win because of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: mccown crushed Taylor a few weeks ago Don't you mean pantsed? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: You keep repeating this over and over and over again. The whole turtles up thing. One has to understand there’s other things factoring into this. now I cant say I disagree with you completely. The 2nd half troubles are maddening. But you can’t discount the conservative nature of our coach and what Taylor was most likely instructed to do in the 2nd half of each dolphin game up big at points. They were up and you could tell the OC and players all we just sitting on it. I hate it becuz it seems to take the rythym out of the game for everyone on offense. Like it or not I don’t think that’s all on Taylor or the players. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: How come when I try to play these videos here it always says "The media could not be played." I have to actually go to the twitter page to play it. It didn't use to do that. I know its nothing you did... just hoping someone could give me some advice on how to fix it. Could be a web browser or internet connection issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Bottles has returned to being Bortles, Mariota has been AWFUL and Flacco stinks. I’d have him ahead of the guys that I listed, so no. He is in a tier with guys like Dalton, Eli, and a few others. It’s the group of guys that you can win with but don’t win because of. In no way, shape, or form does Tyrod Taylor belong in the same group as Eli Manning. The guy has multiple rings and has knocked off the Patriots, twice. He's put his team on his back and won championships. Eli is definitely in the winter of his career, but I don't think there is a sane person on the planet that would take Tyrod over Eli if you needed a QB to go and win a big game. Taylor needed late game heroics from the aforementioned Andy Dalton to get his own team in the playoffs. Dalton is in another tier as well. So, now factor in that there are several teams with multiple QBs that are better than Taylor -- like Minnesota and Indianapolis, and that places TT firmly in the 27-35 range as far as the league as a whole goes. He is a bottom-tier QB. It amazes me that people argue this only because the guy doesn't throw INTs (he also doesn't throw for very many TDs) and can spin around in the pocket really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Take off Baltimore and the Jets and maybe mccown crushed Taylor a few weeks ago You mean the Jets did. McCown had 140 yards and 1 TD. In the first meeting McCown had no TDs and 2 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: In no way, shape, or form does Tyrod Taylor belong in the same group as Eli Manning. The guy has multiple rings and has knocked off the Patriots, twice. He's put his team on his back and won championships. Eli is definitely in the winter of his career, but I don't think there is a sane person on the planet that would take Tyrod over Eli if you needed a QB to go and win a big game. Taylor needed late game heroics from the aforementioned Andy Dalton to get his own team in the playoffs. Dalton is in another tier as well. So, now factor in that there are several teams with multiple QBs that are better than Taylor -- like Minnesota and Indianapolis, and that places TT firmly in the 27-35 range as far as the league as a whole goes. He is a bottom-tier QB. It amazes me that people argue this only because the guy doesn't throw INTs (he also doesn't throw for very many TDs) and can spin around in the pocket really fast. Bro, it’s not 2007 anymore. Eli hasn’t been good the last few years. He’s become an average starter. You so badly want to hate on Tyrod and you sound like a fool today. I’m not sure why it bothers you that he’s an okay starter? I’m guessing that you spent the entire season complaining about him and hoping for Peterman. Now you are grasping at straws so that you can be “less wrong.” He’s okay and you can either accept that or continue to be wrong. I don’t care either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We can learn a valuable lesson from the ravens and Joe Flacco regarding Tyrod. don't let a trip to the playoffs or a playoff run skew your opinion of a quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Ok, great -- I appreciate you playing along here. I disagree with JAX, TEN, and BALT. Bortles has been far and away the better QB statistically for his career and Mariota had a bad season, but is younger with a much better skill set and higher ceiling. Flacco has a ring and could still conceivably run a more consistent passing offense better than Taylor -- however, that's definitely debatable and I can see going either way. However, I'll give those to you for the sake of this exercise. Oh, and the Jets depends on whether or not JMcC comes back or not. He's also been statistically better than Taylor overall for the past few years -- and that was playing for Cleveland and The NYJ. So this means thatTaylor doesn't even crack the top 20 for you, correct? Bortles has been the same as Tyrod statistically. No where near far and away better. 237 overall yards per game 1.5 overall TDs per game 0.6 overall turnovers per game 265 overall yards per game 1.6 overall TDs per game 1.23 overall turnovers per game Which one is "far and away better?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: We can learn a valuable lesson from the ravens and Joe Flacco regarding Tyrod. don't let a trip to the playoffs or a playoff run skew your opinion of a quarterback Flacco did win a Super Bowl, not just a 'trip to the playoffs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Flacco did win a Super Bowl, not just a 'trip to the playoffs' Yea I understand... different but similar in some ways. Moral of the story we can't make an emotional decision in regards to Tyrod. Edited January 1, 2018 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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