The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 12/24/2017 at 12:35 AM, westerndecline said: Literally everyday 24/7 it's bash Trump Just now CNN is saying that they have sources that say Trump said "all Haitian immigrants have AIDS"... Lol they are literally making up stuff now. U can tell they are in panic mode after the legislation repubs just passed Expand Ya know, and call me “crazy,” but I’d wager CNN has a higher accuracy rate than the nonsense that comes out of Trumps mouth. What’s infuriating for me is my hypothesis that lies will be less effective thanks to the internet. In actuality, the internet has become an echo chamber of bull ****. When the smoke settles its gonna be the conservative purists like me, who didn’t jump on Trumps, March of Folly, who are left to undo the damage and that’s gonna be swell with all these socialists that millennials are clinging too. On 8/4/2018 at 3:56 AM, DC Tom said: Reminder: Trump was the single most incompetent, obnoxious, disgusting, unelectable candidate in American history, except for who he ran against. Expand Now the question is can democrats find a candidate to rally around? I’m highly skeptical. Biden could unseat Trump. I wonder what he’s thinking. But Trump is what happens in a republic when everybody gets the vote. Most Americans are unworthy of the vote. Read The Federalist Papers and the look at the original Bill of Rights. There’s nothin about voting because our founding fathers understood that the layman has no business voting. They’re blind to what they do not know and so they think themselves quite capable and that’s why our political system sucks. We let every person vote and then only 50% of our lazy electorate even votes.
Teddy KGB Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:17 PM, The_Dude said: When the smoke settles its gonna be the conservative purists like me, who didn’t jump on Trumps, March of Folly, who are left to undo the damage Expand Gonna undo the damage with your Ford Ranger ?
outsidethebox Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:17 PM, The_Dude said: Ya know, and call me “crazy,” but I’d wager CNN has a higher accuracy rate than the nonsense that comes out of Trumps mouth. What’s infuriating for me is my hypothesis that lies will be less effective thanks to the internet. In actuality, the internet has become an echo chamber of bull ****. When the smoke settles its gonna be the conservative purists like me, who didn’t jump on Trumps, March of Folly, who are left to undo the damage and that’s gonna be swell with all these socialists that millennials are clinging too. Now the question is can democrats find a candidate to rally around? I’m highly skeptical. Biden could unseat Trump. I wonder what he’s thinking. But Trump is what happens in a republic when everybody gets the vote. Most Americans are unworthy of the vote. Read The Federalist Papers and the look at the original Bill of Rights. There’s nothin about voting because our founding fathers understood that the layman has no business voting. They’re blind to what they do not know and so they think themselves quite capable and that’s why our political system sucks. We let every person vote and then only 50% of our lazy electorate even votes. Expand Do you consider yourself one of the privileged few who should be allowed to vote?
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) On 8/4/2018 at 12:37 PM, westside said: Do you consider yourself one of the privileged few who should be allowed to vote? Expand I'm guessing so. He's a veteran, and I've yet to see a proposed form of meritocracy which denies veterans the franchise. As an aside, what issue do you take with the franchise being something one has to earn, as opposed to being something one inherits, so long as it isn't denied based on color, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc? Edited August 4, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker
RochesterRob Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:37 PM, westside said: Do you consider yourself one of the privileged few who should be allowed to vote? Expand People can be quite self-unaware. Most who think that they should be allowed to vote while others are herded off to labor camps are often the ones themselves who would be shipped off by the people who usually wind up in power. Far greater chance that any individual will be viewed as inferior or as a threat than enlightened or capable. 1
The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:37 PM, westside said: Do you consider yourself one of the privileged few who should be allowed to vote? Expand That’s a question I’ve grappled with. First, there’s no putting that toothpaste back in the tube. It’s politically impossible. Do I believe everybody ought be allowed to vote? Heck no. I think the vote should be able to be earned by every citizen who wants it, but the only hurdle to vote right now is ‘exist for 18 years,’ and that’s not a good practice. But it’s in place and there’s no going back from it. On 8/4/2018 at 1:04 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: I'm guessing so. He's a veteran, and I've yet to see a proposed form of meritocracy which denies veterans the franchise. As an aside, what issue do you take with the franchise being something one has to earn, as opposed to being something one inherits, so long as it isn't denied based on color, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc? Expand I could never advocate for denying a soldier a right to vote. And as much of a war hawk as I am, I do NOT want the country’s political system only in the hands of veterans. My reason is Rome during the 3rd century. Rome devolved from a republic into a military mob rule. By the time of the third century, it was an utter mess with constant civil wars so that one legion could hoist their general to emperor and receive donatives for their troubles. But I do think some form of civic service should be required so that our electorate is vested in the nation. How many citizens aren’t vested? Most citizens only care about themselves and not the greater good of the nation.
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:17 PM, The_Dude said: Ya know, and call me “crazy,” but I’d wager CNN has a higher accuracy rate than the nonsense that comes out of Trumps mouth. What’s infuriating for me is my hypothesis that lies will be less effective thanks to the internet. In actuality, the internet has become an echo chamber of bull ****. When the smoke settles its gonna be the conservative purists like me, who didn’t jump on Trumps, March of Folly, who are left to undo the damage and that’s gonna be swell with all these socialists that millennials are clinging too. Now the question is can democrats find a candidate to rally around? I’m highly skeptical. Biden could unseat Trump. I wonder what he’s thinking. But Trump is what happens in a republic when everybody gets the vote. Most Americans are unworthy of the vote. Read The Federalist Papers and the look at the original Bill of Rights. There’s nothin about voting because our founding fathers understood that the layman has no business voting. They’re blind to what they do not know and so they think themselves quite capable and that’s why our political system sucks. We let every person vote and then only 50% of our lazy electorate even votes. Expand Seriously? At the time of our founding, the majority couldn't even read or write. Talk about comparing apples to oranges.
The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 2:00 PM, 3rdnlng said: Seriously? At the time of our founding, the majority couldn't even read or write. Talk about comparing apples to oranges. Expand I think you'd be surprised to find that's not true. White, colonial, dudes, were literate. That's why there were so many copies printed of Common Sense and things of the like. So, if you were an average colonial farmer ya know what ya bought every year? Poor Richard's Almanac -- because ya could read. In the western world, literacy decreased significantly after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, but you see literacy rates start climbing back north at a good pace post invention of the printing press and with the protestant reformation and so on
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 2:07 PM, The_Dude said: I think you'd be surprised to find that's not true. White, colonial, dudes, were literate. That's why there were so many copies printed of Common Sense and things of the like. So, if you were an average colonial farmer ya know what ya bought every year? Poor Richard's Almanac -- because ya could read. In the western world, literacy decreased significantly after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, but you see literacy rates start climbing back north at a good pace post invention of the printing press and with the protestant reformation and so on Expand So you are advocating that only white male landowners should vote?
boyst Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 2:19 PM, Buffalo_Gal said: So you are advocating that only white male landowners should vote? Expand Only if they vote with his beliefs, obviously
The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 2:19 PM, Buffalo_Gal said: So you are advocating that only white male landowners should vote? Expand Why would you think I was advocating for that? On 8/4/2018 at 2:28 PM, Boyst62 said: Only if they vote with his beliefs, obviously Expand Well, obviously. 1
row_33 Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 The dude has fun but energy wasting thoughts, thats why ignore is best unless you have three hours to waste away today
Nanker Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 The XXVI amendment should be not be enforced except for times when the Draft is implemented.
Koko78 Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 3:41 AM, THEHARDTRUTH said: Your as dumb as ever trumptwits. Expand Piss poor grammar and a nonsensical insult, all while calling everyone else "dumb". I love the left!
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 3:48 PM, Koko78 said: Piss poor grammar and a nonsensical insult, all while calling everyone else "dumb". I love the left! Expand A good example: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a bachelors degree in economics. She's the new face of the Democrat Party. 1
The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 2:49 PM, row_33 said: The dude has fun but energy wasting thoughts, thats why ignore is best unless you have three hours to waste away today Expand People said the same thing about Churchill and virtually every philosoph. So thank you. I find the exchange anger of ideas to be crucial in understanding other people and other perspectives. I don’t find that to be a waste of time. I find it mentally stimulating.
outsidethebox Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 4:09 PM, The_Dude said: People said the same thing about Churchill and virtually every philosoph. So thank you. I find the exchange anger of ideas to be crucial in understanding other people and other perspectives. I don’t find that to be a waste of time. I find it mentally stimulating. Expand I bet you're a blast at parties ?
The_Dude Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 4:07 PM, 3rdnlng said: A good example: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a bachelors degree in economics. She's the new face of the Democrat Party. Expand Its economics? Oh my. Well, I’d like to see how she plans to pay for everything she wants. Bernie never could. It was all vague ‘the rich aren’t paying their share.’ If socialism worked we’d be socialists by now. On 8/4/2018 at 4:10 PM, westside said: I bet you're a blast at parties ? Expand I do come well stocked with booze and drugs, so yeah. Also, my taste in music is impeccable. 1
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 4:11 PM, The_Dude said: Its economics? Oh my. Well, I’d like to see how she plans to pay for everything she wants. Bernie never could. It was all vague ‘the rich aren’t paying their share.’ If socialism worked we’d be socialists by now. I do come well stocked with booze and drugs, so yeah. Also, my taste in music is impeccable. Expand Keep telling yourself that.
THEHARDTRUTH Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 3:48 PM, Koko78 said: Piss poor grammar and a nonsensical insult, all while calling everyone else "dumb". I love the left! Expand Once again moron, Im an independent. You nimrods really need to find something better than the left insult. I know you have the mental capacity of navel lint, but maybe a communist blast once in a while. The grammar blast is a beaut also given that Trump has the grammar skills of a first grader. But hes a racist scumbag just like yourselves so I guess the hypocrisy is a non issue with dummies like you.
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