TC in St. Louis Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 When the Pats came up short on 3rd down, the score was 16-3. We at the Bills Backers bar in St. Louis were debating whether the Pats would kick another field goal or go for it. Suddenly they ran a play and as it turns out, they were given a 1st down and hurriedly ran a play before we could get a challenge. Unfortunately at the time the sound had gone out in our feed, so we were unable to hear any explanation. When we got the sound back Romo was saying that the Bills should be pretty upset at the spot on that play. Is it my imagination, or was that guy stopped at least a couple feet short of the marker? Also wondering why on the Gronk cheap shot....two personal fouls against the Pats, one on us, and Hughes got a 15 yards for saying something to the ref. First of all, I don't understand why we got the 15 when they both should have nullified each other....2 on each team......but why did it then become 1st and 25? Seems like a double whammy with no reach-around to me. And why wasn't Gronk just heaved out of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 You are correct. McDermott was also pretty mad about it, because the Pats got the next play off before it could be reviewed or challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Because Pat's***, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The only way this **** ends is for all the fans in the stadium to rush the field and duck tape the officials to the goal posts and leave them there for the night. Put signs of Ivan Drago in the ground that say "If he dies he dies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The spot that the refs gave the Pats on that play was incredibly generous. The hilarious thing is that they didn't even call for a measurement. Just gave him fake yardage. Everybody including McD thought they were on 4th down. so of course the Pats run a play before anyone can react. They at least get that the refs incompetence must be exploited asap. all the other fool coaches still feel the refs are doing a great job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) It was obviously short. Even with the spot of the ball short Gene Steratore waltzed in and said first down. I actually said "just give it to them” out loud when it happened. Edited December 3, 2017 by nkreed Grammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFITZ1 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The rule book changes when any team plays the Pats. Gronk's deliberate head shot should be a suspension if the NFL and Goodell are at all serious about controlling head injuries. Surprised it wasn't an ejection since White was clearly out of bounds. !st and 25 makes no sense to me, but perhaps it is by rule. Seems the refs were more concerned about a mild shove than a blow to the head. Proving once again stars get lenient treatment in Goodell's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Sorry, that’s still on coach. I think the wide majority of coaches handle that situation better than we saw today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Sorry, that’s still on coach. I think the wide majority of coaches handle that situation better than we saw today. Have to know situation and challenge when the Pats line up for the quick snap. Have to know your opponent better than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvbills Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yet in the Chiefs game, a player throws a flag into the stands and gets EJECTED??? WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Luvbills said: Yet in the Chiefs game, a player throws a flag into the stands and gets EJECTED??? WTF??? He wasnt ejected. He walked out on his own then came back without socks. Edited December 3, 2017 by aceman_16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Have to know situation and challenge when the Pats line up for the quick snap. Have to know your opponent better than that. Yup Even if its 4 and 1 we weren’t ready for the snap — that the refs messed up didn’t change that you have to stop the play before it’s snapped. That the refs messed up will get the attention but we miserably failed any kind of situational awareness there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Regarding the OP's second question about off-setting penalties... I believe the refs ruled it as though there were 2 distinct incidents, so all the penalties were not lumped together. They lumped everything together that flowed directly from the play or occurred as the play ended and off-set what could be off-set there. But then the Jerry Hughes thing was deemed a separate incident so that was dealt with separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Regarding the OP's second question about off-setting penalties... I believe the refs ruled it as though there were 2 distinct incidents, so all the penalties were not lumped together. They lumped everything together that flowed directly from the play or occurred as the play ended and off-set what could be off-set there. But then the Jerry Hughes thing was deemed a separate incident so that was dealt with separately. Witnessing the KC game and the toss of the flag into the crowd: it was correctly noted by the official that since this was an infraction against an official, it was considered a between down foul. Not the dead ball foul. This is the same as if a team called two TOs back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 McCoach needed to save his final challenge for a play that had no chance of being overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Livinginthepast said: The spot that the refs gave the Pats on that play was incredibly generous. The hilarious thing is that they didn't even call for a measurement. Just gave him fake yardage. Everybody including McD thought they were on 4th down. so of course the Pats run a play before anyone can react. They at least get that the refs incompetence must be exploited asap. all the other fool coaches still feel the refs are doing a great job The spots all day favored NE by +1 yards and our spots were -1. It was unbelievable. Watch the first half and you'll see what I mean. Kraft owns these Refs and always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 48 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: He wasnt ejected. He walked out on his own then came back without socks. What happened to his socks???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: What happened to his socks???? Lol My guess he THOUGHT he was ejected.... went into the locker room. Started getting undressed and someone said "come back we may need you IF this goes to overtime." He redresses and said screw these horrendously smelling and sweat soaked socks. And came out without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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