SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Taylor will agree to take a paycut to stay in Buffalo, or by default he'll get a paycut by getting cut. $8 Mil cap hit if cut. blah blah I am not adding post June BS every time I post this so, please don't keep reminding me of it. (you know who you are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 11/20/2017 at 2:59 AM, BADOLBILZ said: Last year Taylor lead the Bills to their biggest offensive yardage production day ever...........and two days later he was benched......... and considered a lock to be out of town with zero games left to make his case. Like it or not he could end up back in the lineup at any moment. Really? The Bills had their biggest offensive yardage production day ever this year? Which day was that? 'Cause I'd have thought the 488 against the 9ers in 1992 would've been at least one game higher than anything they did this year, or the 490 the same year against the Pats. Or the 537 the year before against the Steelers. Or the 582 that same year, 1991, against the Dolphins. Glad to find out we did even better this year, reaching "their biggest offensive yardage production day ever." Wow!!! Which game was that again, this year? And how many passing yards did Tyrod have to add to this massive outburst? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 If he takes a pay cut. Keep him. Draft a QB or sign another veteran. If not, trade him or cut him. Based on the hatred for the guy by many Bills fans, id rather cut him so i dont have to hear the constant drivel anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Really? The Bills had their biggest offensive yardage production day ever this year? Which day was that? I'd imagine he was referring to the Miami game with 601 yards of offense that came right before he was benched for the Jets finale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'd imagine he was referring to the Miami game with 601 yards of offense that came right before he was benched for the Jets finale. There was the Seattle game and the Miami OT game ..... Beyond those it is basically one or two "great games" per season and the rest are his typical game. Hence my reference to Typical Taylor. Edited February 15, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I think Cleveland is a very sensible landing spot for him, especially if they're as enamored with Josh Allen as some recent reports have indicated. Cleveland is trying to fight off the reputation that they're a complete joke...improving from having the most turnovers in the NFL to possibly the fewest would be a gigantic step in the right direction for them while they develop a young QB and Tyrod is on an expiring contract so it works out pretty perfectly for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think the 6 mill is that big of a deal if paying it means they can get a decent pick or player back It's not that small of a deal either. And no team is going to tell them what they would give in trade before they pay that bonus. If they pay the $6 mill, they will have to do it blind. The new regime is fiscally conservative. What level pick would they think would be worth $6 mill? A 3rd? A 4th? A 5th? And if they do pay that $6 mill, it'll mean $13.64 mill in dead money, for a team that's already got $18.68 mill in dead money. Would that be an all-time record? If not, it'd be pretty close, I'd guess. It's possible. I'd argue it's not likely at all. If they pay that $6 mill, my guess is that they would have to be willing to see him on the roster for another year unless they get a very nice little offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: There was the Seattle game and the Miami OT game ..... Beyond those it is basically one or two "great games" per season and the rest are his typical game. Hence my reference to Typical Taylor. My comment had nothing to do with anything you have said in this thread. Thurman asked a question, I gave him the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 arizona seems like it would be a nice spot for him. david johnson and the big run game. pretty reasonable cap if you have a rookie as the backup and heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I think Cleveland is a very sensible landing spot for him, especially if they're as enamored with Josh Allen as some recent reports have indicated. Cleveland is trying to fight off the reputation that they're a complete joke...improving from having the most turnovers in the NFL to possibly the fewest would be a gigantic step in the right direction for them while they develop a young QB and Tyrod is on an expiring contract so it works out pretty perfectly for them. That’s a place that makes sense (or wherever Allen lands). I feel the same about Lamar Jackson. Jackson and Allen are redshirts IMO. Wherever they end up should have a veteran option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: My comment had nothing to do with anything you have said in this thread. Thurman asked a question, I gave him the answer. Easy fellah I was adding games where TT excelled. so defensive. chillax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s a place that makes sense (or wherever Allen lands). I feel the same about Lamar Jackson. Jackson and Allen are redshirts IMO. Wherever they end up should have a veteran option. I'm really curious to see what ends up happening with Lamar. If a team wants to overhaul his footwork, he'll certainly need a year (or at least like half a season) to create new muscle memory. But I've seen articles suggest that Petrino specifically taught Lamar the footwork he uses now to help maximize his accuracy with his flick of the wrist throwing motion, and if a team buys into that line of thinking, I think he might be the most NFL-ready honestly. His running ability will take a lot of pressure off transitioning his passing game and he's already familiar with pro-style passing concepts. I believe it was Matt Miller a few days ago that basically alluded to this, saying that Lamar could probably have the greatest impact at the start of the season of any of this year's QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) La Canfora writes Several NFL execs said they foresee a decent trade market for Taylor [1], who just turned 28 in August, this offseason, and expect interest to form at the combine. Not all teams will be in line to draft a quarterback they like, some will invariably prefer Taylor, who has played in 52 games (38 starts) with 47 touchdowns to just 17 interceptions (his 1.5 career interception percentage puts him atop league leaders) with a very solid QB rating of 92.1, while also averaging 5.5 yards per carry with 10 rushing touchdowns. Besides Brees, the free-agent class of quarterbacks is hardly overwhelming. Sam Bradford is hurt again, Teddy Bridgewater hasn't played in two years, Kirk Cousins is virtually certain to get tagged again -- franchise or transition -- and Case Keenum may be the next best available if he doesn't sign an extension. While teams could conceivably wait for the Bills to release Taylor -- given that looming roster bonus -- the ability to land him at a reasonable contract and secure his rights for at least 2018 will likely lead to someone giving Buffalo something of reasonable value for the quarterback, the GMs predicted. They are almost always in short supply, and Taylor looks like a great bargain compared to recent deals for Brock Osweiler (Cleveland paid $16M just to release him) and Mike Glennon (barely held his starting job for a month after being given $18.5M guaranteed in March). [1] I say Step on up and make the Bills an offer ! [1a] Are these the same 4 guys that said they had interest in TT 2 seasons ago? Edited February 15, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 They might be able to get a 4th or 5th round pick for Tyrod is they're lucky. Otherwise, I think the Bills will cut him before March 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 31 very quick phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Joaquin1119 said: I think a lot of nfl teams wouldn’t make a trade for TT. They would wait until the bills release him. No point trading for TT. I wouldn’t waste my draft pick for him if I was an nfl owner I think this. But then I also thought that teams would wait for KC to release Smith in a cap move, not trade a 3rd round pick AND a starting DB for him, then sign him to a huge contract. Not saying Tyrod = Smith, just saying that if the QB market is so tight that a team is willing to pay a relative ransom for Smith, Tyrod might have more value than we as fans perceive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: It's not that small of a deal either. And no team is going to tell them what they would give in trade before they pay that bonus. If they pay the $6 mill, they will have to do it blind. The new regime is fiscally conservative. What level pick would they think would be worth $6 mill? A 3rd? A 4th? A 5th? And if they do pay that $6 mill, it'll mean $13.64 mill in dead money, for a team that's already got $18.68 mill in dead money. Would that be an all-time record? If not, it'd be pretty close, I'd guess. It's possible. I'd argue it's not likely at all. If they pay that $6 mill, my guess is that they would have to be willing to see him on the roster for another year unless they get a very nice little offer. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: If Taylor played for the Browns and had the same stats and made the playoffs most Bills fans would want him. Most would trade a mid round pick for him. did they make the playoffs because of him or in spite of him ? 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think this. But then I also thought that teams would wait for KC to release Smith in a cap move, not trade a 3rd round pick AND a starting DB for him, then sign him to a huge contract. Not saying Tyrod = Smith, just saying that if the QB market is so tight that a team is willing to pay a relative ransom for Smith, Tyrod might have more value than we as fans perceive. I disagree , this off season is flush with decent qb's . 4-6 are going to get drafted in round 1 , smith already changed teams, cousins in out there, Bradford and Keenum are better then taylor. , Foles is floating out there , and if you want to dig even deeper Derek Anderson and Matt moore have played games that Taylor could only dream of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: I'm really curious to see what ends up happening with Lamar. If a team wants to overhaul his footwork, he'll certainly need a year (or at least like half a season) to create new muscle memory. But I've seen articles suggest that Petrino specifically taught Lamar the footwork he uses now to help maximize his accuracy with his flick of the wrist throwing motion, and if a team buys into that line of thinking, I think he might be the most NFL-ready honestly. His running ability will take a lot of pressure off transitioning his passing game and he's already familiar with pro-style passing concepts. I believe it was Matt Miller a few days ago that basically alluded to this, saying that Lamar could probably have the greatest impact at the start of the season of any of this year's QBs. That’s an interesting take. I could see him being a fairly inefficient playmaker early. He has so much ability. I just don’t know if he will get better without the adjustments. 15 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: did they make the playoffs because of him or in spite of him ? You don’t do something wholly “because of” or “in spite of.” Football is the ultimate team game where the sum of the parts is always the answer. We were worse running, throwing, scoring, point differential, sacks, etc...but won more games. It is the combination of everything that give you the end result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Why not? Seriously? Is that an actual question? Why wouldn't another team give an honest answer now about what they'll give after the bonus is due? Same reason you don't show your cards in poker before you bet. And especially not halfway through a betting round when the next guy to pay or fold is your opponent. Edited February 15, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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