The Fire Bell In The Night

[Tiberius]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/359310-dems-win-from-coast-to-coast

 

 

Democrats win big across the country. That has to have a whole lot of Republicans nervous. And it shows Trump can run but he cannot hide. The Republicans in Congress caught between the solid Trump supporting base they will face in primaries if they lift a finger to oppose the crazy man and the rest of the people they will face in generals elections must be having real headaches. 

[PastaJoe]

That's why more Republicans this week said they weren't running for reelection. They'd rather quit and take their pensions than choose between a rock and a hard head.

[row_33]

Virginia is one of the most neutral states, and it gave us Robert E. Lee.

 

Dems and GOP interchange without much diff and are effective from Virginia.

 

[Prickly Pete]

Nah.

 

http://virginiahumanities.org/2014/10/the-changing-face-of-virginia-immigration-and-the-humanities/

[B-Man]

LOL...................Democrats are coming back !!

 

  "I love the smell of desperation"

 

Ralph Northam beat Gillespie by 9 points. In areas where Gillespie did well several years ago in his Senate race, he got mashed this time around. He wanted to limit the damage in the northern Virginia suburbs, and instead, he lost bigly.

 

Republicans lost in New Jersey and New York, but that matters little. Chris Christie was a cancer in New Jersey with his 18 percent job approval and Bill de Blasio managed to polish his Sandinista image enough to win comfortably in New York City.

 

But Virginia tells the tale of the tape.  Republicans also did poorly down-ticket in Virginia as well, losing some races in the House of Delegates.

 

So what does this tell us, if anything?

 

It proves once again, Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate. – It’s easy to ask, “What does she have to do with anything?” Well, she’s so sorry that she was likely the only one who could lose to Donald Trump. Look at the numbers. Hillary won Virginia by a bit over 5 points. Northam won by 9. Ask yourself and answer honestly? Would Joe Biden have lost to Donald Trump? Hillary could not connect with voters on a level the way Biden could do. But the Democratic Party began to lay the groundwork for Hillary’s candidacy they moment Barack Obama won re-election in 2012.

 

Her candidacy was a coronation, but they were not expecting the upstart campaign of Bernie Sanders. It should have been a warning signal that a relatively unknown socialist from Vermont almost knocked her off. But it didn’t. They went through the general campaign thinking it would be an easy win over the reality show host. People didn’t feel an urgency to get out and vote for her.

 

 

So were are still at two blue states staying blue

Edited November 8, 2017 by B-Man

[Tiberius]

11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

It proves once again, Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate. –  

Good point 

 

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Pundits continue to undervalue Hillary Clinton’s unpopularity in 2016. In Loudoun, Fairfax and Prince William counties, Virginia Governor-elect Ralph Northam got a higher percentage of voters than she did. One can imagine independent or #NeverHillary Republicans who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton and didn’t think Donald Trump would win anyway. Those voters are now scared and stunned — and decided to send a message now that they have had it with President Trump and Trumpism. Duplicate that situation in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — where Trump won by a scant 79,000 votes combined — and you see how Clinton was perhaps uniquely incapable of winning. Wouldn’t a generic Democrat have done better? In short, Democrats will solve a good deal of their problem when Clinton is not on the ballot. Northam was as close to a “generic Democrat” as one can get. A generic Democrat can trounce a Trump Republican.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/11/08/lets-rethink-the-lessons-of-2016/?utm_term=.f1209beb90a0

[Doc Brown]

The bigger story is they voted for medicaid expansion in Maine (the governor opposed it so it won't take effect until February of next year) and is the first state to do so by referendum since the ACA passage.  This could spark activists from other GOP led states who haven't expanded medicaid (18 of them) to do the same in 2018.

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The bigger story is they voted for medicaid expansion in Maine (the governor opposed it so it won't take effect until February of next year) and is the first state to do so by referendum since the ACA passage.  This could spark activists from other GOP led states who haven't expanded medicaid (18 of them) to do the same in 2018.

It's the number one issue for voters. The other big story is the turn out. Democrats are energized! And judging by this board, the Conservatives are not. Kind of disappeared 

[B-Man]

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The bigger story is they voted for medicaid expansion in Maine (the governor opposed it so it won't take effect until February of next year) and is the first state to do so by referendum since the ACA passage.  This could spark activists from other GOP led states who haven't expanded medicaid (18 of them) to do the same in 2018.

 

Doc, their legislature has passed that seven years in a row, and it was vetoed by the Guv.

 

Not really a big surprise, Maine is a blue state.

 

 

 

More GREAT news.................

 

She’s so very BACK! Dem wins have Hillary Clinton re-energized 

 

 

Hahahahaha.

[Tiberius]

RICHMOND, Va. — The American suburbs appear to be in revolt against President Trump after a muscular coalition of college-educated voters and racial and ethnic minorities on Tuesday dealt the Republican Party a thumping rejection and propelled a diverse class of Democrats into office.

From the tax-obsessed suburbs of New York City to high-tech neighborhoods outside Seattle to the sprawling, polyglot developments of Fairfax and Prince William County, Va., voters shunned Republicans up and down the ballot in off-year elections. Leaders in both parties said the elections amounted to an earsplitting alarm bell for Republicans ahead of the 2018 elections, when the party’s grip on the House of Representatives may hinge on the socially moderate, multiethnic communities surrounding major cities.

 

The Democrats’ gains were deep and broad, signaling profound alienation from the Republican Party among the sort of upscale moderates who were once a pillar of their coalition.

Democrats not only swept Virginia’s statewide races but neared a majority in the House of Delegates, a legislative chamber that was gerrymandered to make the Republican majority virtually unassailable. They seized county executive offices in Westchester and Nassau County, N.Y., and captured bellwether mayoral elections in St. Petersburg, Fla., and Manchester, N.H., all races that had appeared to favor Republicans only months ago.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/us/politics/suburbs-revolt-trump-republicans-congress.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

 

Gotta win the suburbs! 

 

 

[Prickly Pete]

If it's in the NYT it must be true. "It's Happening!"

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Doc, their legislature has passed that seven years in a row, and it was vetoed by the Guv.

 

Not really a big surprise, Maine is a blue state.

The difference here is the people voted for a referendum for medicaid expansion knowing it would likely raise state taxes so the governor can't veto it under Maine's state constitution.  If he fails to implement it by sending in the paperwork to the federal government there will be a legal battle.  Groups in Utah and Idaho are keeping a close eye on this as activists will likely put medicaid expansion on next years ballot.  

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

More GREAT news.................

 

She’s so very BACK! Dem wins have Hillary Clinton re-energized 

 

 

Hahahahaha.

I think Richie Incognito could have beaten Trump.  Hillary needs to build a cabin in the woods and stay there.

[row_33]

and again, ANYONE except Hillary would have beaten Trump, and probably will in 2020, if he runs.

 

 

[DC Tom]

40 minutes ago, row_33 said:

and again, ANYONE except Hillary would have beaten Trump, and probably will in 2020, if he runs.

 

 

 

Hell, any THING could have beaten Trump.  A cucumber could have beaten Trump.  

[Wacka]

The only way to re-energize Hillary is to pump about 50,00 volts through her carcass.

[Tiberius]

13 hours ago, row_33 said:

and again, ANYONE except Hillary would have beaten Trump, and probably will in 2020, if he runs.

 

 

Elizabeth Warren? You think she is the next president? Women came out in droves to support the Democrats Tuesday, it looks like a female wave! 

 

12 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Hell, any THING could have beaten Trump.  A cucumber could have beaten Trump.  

With the help of the Electoral College, of course. She got way more votes than Trump 

[3rdnlng]

15 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The difference here is the people voted for a referendum for medicaid expansion knowing it would likely raise state taxes so the governor can't veto it under Maine's state constitution.  If he fails to implement it by sending in the paperwork to the federal government there will be a legal battle.  Groups in Utah and Idaho are keeping a close eye on this as activists will likely put medicaid expansion on next years ballot.  

I think Richie Incognito could have beaten Trump.  Hillary needs to build a cabin in the woods and stay there.

Could Richie have beaten these people, who all lost to Trump?

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Elizabeth Warren? You think she is the next president? Women came out in droves to support the Democrats Tuesday, it looks like a female wave! 

 

With the help of the Electoral College, of course. She got way more votes than Trump 

 

Oh good, we're back to whining about the Electoral College.  Get over it, losers.

 

And I've said it before and I'll say it again: if the Dems put up Warren as their nominee in 2020 against Trump it'll just prove they learned nothing from 2016 and they'll lose.  Again.

16 hours ago, OJABBA said:

If it's in the NYT it must be true. "It's Happening!"

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, LeviF91 said:

Oh good, we're back to whining about the Electoral College.  Get over it, losers.

Dearest Donny has complained about the EC for a very long time. 

 

I'll hang up and listen to your reply. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, LeviF91 said:

 

Oh good, we're back to whining about the Electoral College.  Get over it, losers.

 

And I've said it before and I'll say it again: if the Dems put up Warren as their nominee in 2020 against Trump it'll just prove they learned nothing from 2016 and they'll lose.  Again.

I disagree. I think the right wing insanity will go back off the scale for Warren, just like with Hillary, but won't work again. Warren will be hated with an insane passion, but like Hillary will win way more votes, but also the EC.