BuffaloRebound Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Weren't Pats asking for multiple 1st round picks in the offseason for Garrofalo? I think this is a smart deal by SF. They waited the Pats out, got a chance to scout the 2018 college QB class, and got their guy for a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punt75 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This is the Bill B scheme that's gone on for years. Every one thinks Jimmy G must be good - really good - because he's with the Patriots. Remember Mallet and Bledsoe?? It's a con - waiting for a desperate team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 You make absolutely no intelligent argument worth responding to, so there's that. Back at ya. Where you live gives you no special insight. Nor who you follow. There are die hard Bills fans, all local to WNY, who completely disagree on the merits of various players. So bring something more to the party than that, if you want to have an intelligent discussion. Cousins will be a sought-after FA and will be paid a handsome sum to be someone's QB, next year. That, in an of itself, suggests he is a fairly decent NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) This is the Bill B scheme that's gone on for years. Every one thinks Jimmy G must be good - really good - because he's with the Patriots. Remember Mallet and Bledsoe?? It's a con - waiting for a desperate team. I don't think people give JG enough credit...he was a top prospect coming out of school in 2014- breaking all of Tony Romo's records in college...only reason he lasted to the 2nd round was because he was from a small school. But imo he is the best QB the Pats have drafted since Brady. Edited October 31, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I didnt think trades impacted comp picks? It doesnt. It meant the pick they were getting back. Ie likely a 3rd and hoyer instead of the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napmaster Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This trade has disaster written all over it. Patriots just traded away their insurance policy if Brady gets hurt. If anything happens to Brady this turns into a horrible move for a second round pick. Spot on as insurance. Reality is that JG is an UFA in 2018. The Pats had no intention of using the franchise tag on him with Brady still active and he was going to leave to pursue a starting gig (SF, WASH, CLEV). The move gives the Pats a good draft pick and SF a 8 game tryout on JG to see if he really can be their long term answer at QB. If so, they work out a long term deal or franchise tag him and trade their top 3 draft pick for a big package of picks. If he sucks, they pick a QB in the draft. But as you said, this is a very risk tolerant move by the Pats. If Brady goes down, Pats Nation will go insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wow. Out of nowhere. They must really think Brady can last another few years, or they don't think Garropolo is as good as everyone thinks he is. This. They just landed a high pick in the second. The Pats will be players for their future qb this draft. Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18725360/is-jimmy-garoppolo-overhyped-budding-star-new-england-patriots-2017-nfl-offseason Budding star or overhyped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/brian-hoyer-player-injuries Brian Hoyer's injury history.....................if I was a Pats fan I wouldn't feel satisfied .............this aint 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I actually dont think this trade necessarily rules out the niners drafting a qb still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 No he should hang out with his Pats* fans more often on their boards. Hey look a call out post. And a very weak one at that I actually dont think this trade necessarily rules out the niners drafting a qb still Once he signs his extension it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Very shrewd move by Hoodie and company. Guess they must truly believe Brady is playing until he's 45 and given Belichik's history with drafting QB's they'll probably get a guy better than Jimmy G with the 2nd round pick they got from San Fran anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Very shrewd move by Hoodie and company. Guess they must truly believe Brady is playing until he's 45 and given Belichik's history with drafting QB's they'll probably get a guy better than Jimmy G with the 2nd round pick they got from San Fran anyway. Good- more time to knock Brady around before he retires bwahahahahahah Edited October 31, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Ryan Finley is going to be the best QB in this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I forget the specifics, but SF made some pretty piss-poor trades in the last draft, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I forget the specifics, but SF made some pretty piss-poor trades in the last draft, right?if that is code for *passed on Deshaun Watson* then yes Edited October 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Do people realize that the Niners can franchise JG if they want. Not too mention they probably know what he wants for a long term deal and were comfortable with that. Now they dont have to take a QB with their high first round pick and can trade back with a team that wants a top QB and reaquire that second and more. JG isnt going to risk injury or bad play to play out a year or two then maybe get a big deal in FA. Jeez people, youre Patsaphobia is memorizing. Edited October 31, 2017 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Do people realize that the Niners can franchise JG if they want. Not too mention they probably know what he wants for a long term deal and were comfortable with that. Now they dont have to take a QB with their high first round pick and can trade back with a team that wants a top QB and reaquire that second and more. Jeez people, youre Patsaphobia is memorizing. yes, that had all been discussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 yes, that had all been discussed I got through 4 pages and had enough of the Niners could have just had him in the off-season talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I got through 4 pages and had enough of the Niners could have just had him in the off-season talk. Would he have signed with them, as a FA? Now they have the inside track, or can franchise him. Maybe still a bad move, but don't pretend like there isn't a benefit. Edited October 31, 2017 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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