Foreigner Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 For all the Tyrod haters out there, and all the non believers who say you can not win in the NFL with the above QB numbers, the 0-5 Giants defeated the Broncos last night in Denver 23-10. This result with the Giants losing their top 4 receivers due to injury. For the Giants TE Engram was 5-82 and the Giants total offense was only 266 yards. Maybe we can have a very successful season if the OL can open up enough holes in the run game to get Shady going again, and with the Giants start and non playoff appearances Eli is not getting killed like Tyrod is. Denver's QB's threw for 394 yards. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hey. Smokin' Jay was 19-33 for 151 yards with 2 TDs and a pick in the Dolphins' win in ATL yesterday. He should be embarrassed for not getting to 300 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just what we needed an Anti Anti Taylor thread!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Heard Brees threw for less than 200 and they scored over 50. Defense scored 21 of them. Multiple ways to win in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Heard Brees threw for less than 200 and they scored over 50. Defense scored 21 of them. Multiple ways to win in the NFL but it doesn't count if you have under 300 passing yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Heard Brees threw for less than 200 and they scored over 50. Defense scored 21 of them. Multiple ways to win in the NFL Yes there are, but your offense still needs to be good enough to score TD's when they gain possession in oppenents territory. We have not been capitalizing on turnovers like winning teams do. Kicking field goals more frequently than scoring TD's, after gaining great field position post turnover is not a winning formula. At this time, no one on our offense is good enough to be on a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yes there are, but your offense still needs to be good enough to score TD's when they gain possession in oppenents territory. We have not been capitalizing on turnovers like winning teams do. Kicking field goals more frequently than scoring TD's, after gaining great field position post turnover is not a winning formula. At this time, no one on our offense is good enough to be on a winning team. It bit them squarely in the ass in Cincinnati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 but it doesn't count if you have under 300 passing yards The 3 lowest passing games for Brees this season are all wins. The other 2 games were losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yes there are, but your offense still needs to be good enough to score TD's when they gain possession in oppenents territory. We have not been capitalizing on turnovers like winning teams do. Kicking field goals more frequently than scoring TD's, after gaining great field position post turnover is not a winning formula. At this time, no one on our offense is good enough to be on a winning team. That is untrue because they actually are on a winning team. The odds are that the offense will have to improve and score more points to continue winning games as the season goes on. The Offense needs to score more points , be more efficient in the red zone etc. it doesn't really matter how they get there, as long as they find ways to score points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 but it doesn't count if you have under 300 passing yards Football isn't about numbers. Regardless of your side in the TT debate, judging him solely on numbers isn't fair. Football is a game of inches, it's about making clutch plays at the right time. TT fails at this more often than he succeeds. We are 4-2 if he makes a quick read and gets the ball to Logan Thomas. Instead, he chose to wave him into the endzone. We missed a chance to put seven on the board, and eventually lost a game we would have likely won otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Football isn't about numbers. Regardless of your side in the TT debate, judging him solely on numbers isn't fair. Football is a game of inches, it's about making clutch plays at the right time. TT fails at this more often than he succeeds. We are 4-2 if he makes a quick read and gets the ball to Logan Thomas. Instead, he chose to wave him into the endzone. We missed a chance to put seven on the board, and eventually lost a game we would have likely won otherwise. I understand football.....I was making a joke...follow along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Mother of God... Another Tyrod thread. But, this is on point, if Tyrod had a performance like any of those two people would be calling for his benching immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Shall we add from yesterday Trubisky 8-16-0-113 with the Bears winning with 27 points, Goff 11-21-0-124 with the Rams winning with 27 points. Drafting a QB you want and hope to throw for 300 every game to make the playoffs, is unlikely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That is untrue because they actually are on a winning team. The odds are that the offense will have to improve and score more points to continue winning games as the season goes on. The Offense needs to score more points , be more efficient in the red zone etc. it doesn't really matter how they get there, as long as they find ways to score points. I agree with you that the offense needs to improve. You are correct in pointing out this is a winning team. Sadly, if the offense doesn't show improvement, we won't be one for long. I'm discouraged by the fact that I don't see many signs pointing to an offense with the ability to improve. There are simply too many things wrong with this offense imo. The problems range from personnel to coaching/scheme. Unless one or both of these change, I don't see things getting better. Hopefully I'm wrong, I want to watch a winning team with an exciting offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Lets all strive for 190 passing yards a game across the NFL. What fun that would be.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) I understand football.....I was making a joke...follow along I'm agreeing with you that's it's unfair when TT's critics use his numbers as an indicator that he's a terrible QB. There are other more telling aspects of his game to point out. Numbers are an easy way to make an argument without digging deeper. Edited October 16, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Shall we add from yesterday Trubisky 8-16-0-113 with the Bears winning with 27 points, Goff 11-21-0-124 with the Rams winning with 27 points. Drafting a QB you want and hope to throw for 300 every game to make the playoffs, is unlikely to happen. I don't think anyone is saying he needs to throw 300 yards every game...that's nearly 5,000 yards on the season which is very unrealistic. Just improving from being the bottom of the league 3 years in a row. We haven't been able to move the ball consistently in the air at all for 3 years now. Edited October 16, 2017 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 The throw to Logan Thomas was not good, but unless he is going to the hall of fame, there is a lot of doubt what he can catch. He is probably a nice guy, but he is a failed QB, and the only reason he is on the team or even in a game as a WR is because Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan are gone, and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he another Carolina reject, or is that K. Clay. If you are going to rely on either guys to make game winning catches all year long, that is really misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The throw to Logan Thomas was not good, but unless he is going to the hall of fame, there is a lot of doubt what he can catch. He is probably a nice guy, but he is a failed QB, and the only reason he is on the team or even in a game as a WR is because Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan are gone, and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he another Carolina reject, or is that K. Clay. If you are going to rely on either guys to make game winning catches all year long, that is really misguided. He's 2-16 in games in which we trail by 4 at any point.....that includes when he had Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan. Thomas is not on the team because other WR are gone, he's on the team because he's our 3rd string TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The throw to Logan Thomas was not good, but unless he is going to the hall of fame, there is a lot of doubt what he can catch. He is probably a nice guy, but he is a failed QB, and the only reason he is on the team or even in a game as a WR is because Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan are gone, and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he another Carolina reject, or is that K. Clay. If you are going to rely on either guys to make game winning catches all year long, that is really misguided. How can they prove they can make game winning catches, if the QB wont throw them the ball?? For all the Tyrod haters out there, and all the non believers who say you can not win in the NFL with the above QB numbers, the 0-5 Giants defeated the Broncos last night in Denver 23-10. This result with the Giants losing their top 4 receivers due to injury. For the Giants TE Engram was 5-82 and the Giants total offense was only 266 yards. Maybe we can have a very successful season if the OL can open up enough holes in the run game to get Shady going again, and with the Giants start and non playoff appearances Eli is not getting killed like Tyrod is. Denver's QB's threw for 394 yards. Just sayin. So are you saying we should hope for an anomaly every week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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