CanadianFan Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think we have had this tread for 2 weeks in a row now right? Yes. He's got the wrong coordinator for the offense. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 No it's actually pretty close. You can always hire Greg Roman, ya know, the guy who actually ran this offense that was successful, as the OC. Didnt we fire Roman during the season and the offense got better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) There was no way to keep our old offense.This is what we said about the defense when we hired Rex.Didnt we fire Roman during the season and the offense got better? If you compare the full season with him vs without, we got slightly worse. Edited October 16, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is what we said about the defense when we hired Rex. If you compare the full season with him vs without, we got slightly worse. That's not what I said. We fired the OC responsible for the 2015 and 2016 offense in September. Because of the owners. I don't think he was going to accept a job back with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 why would we even hire Dennison in the first place. I guarantee he will be gone in 2 years just like every Bills OC in the last 20 years Probably. This offense took a nose dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is what we said about the defense when we hired Rex. except that rex truly was a stupid decision and a mistake. This should have been known to the front office after watching him flame out with the Jets. But he was the 'big Name' flashy move that would get people talking about the team. They actually seem like they found someone now who know what they are doing, or at least habe a real plan they are going to stick to with a goal of building a team, instead of just trying to find a place for his brother to work.... That's not what I said. We fired the OC responsible for the 2015 and 2016 offense in September. Because of the owners. I don't think he was going to accept a job back with us. i remember a lot of people complaining about Roman and his offence last year and couldn't wait for the bills to get rid of him. Now he should be brought back as a saviour for this offence? I don't remember his offence being much better then they are right now with him running it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Year after year, and new coach after new coach, it's the same thing: They implement their own schemes, make one unit much better, and the other, worse. Seems we always have either a D or O that performs at a playoff caliber and the other that doesn't. Bottom line, we had an offense in the top 12 last year that moved the chains. It worked, and was fun to watch to boot. I don't know if it's arrogance or just lack of knowledge, but we need to hire coordinators that can -- and will -- adapt to meet players' skillsets. It's difficult to envision this offense becoming playoff caliber this year. To make matters worse, we dismantled our wide receiver core and jettisoned a great backup RB, and never addressed the hemorrhage adequately. Our D is lights out. By the time our O catches up, I fear, it'll be time to dismantle the D again. Hopefully, with this new crew, our endless rinse and repeat cycle ends. In the meantime, I fail to see how this O can be anything but putrid. Edited October 16, 2017 by Just in Atlanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Year after year, and new coach after new coach, it's the same thing: They implement their own schemes, make one unit much better, and the other, worse. Seems we always have either a D or O that performs at a playoff caliber and the other that doesn't. Bottom line, we had an offense in the top 12 last year that moved the chains. It worked, and was fun to watch to boot. I don't know if it's arrogance or just lack of knowledge, but we need to hire coordinators that can -- and will -- adapt to meet players' skillsets. It's difficult to envision this offense becoming playoff caliber this year. To make matters worse, we dismantled our wide receiver core and jettisoned a great backup RB, and never addressed the hemorrhage adequately. Our D is lights out. By the time our O catches up, I fear, it'll be time to dismantle the D again. Hopefully, with this new crew, our endless rinse and repeat cycle ends. In the meantime, I fail to see how this O can be anything but putrid. Tough to blame McDermott for this. It was Roman's system, yet Roman was already fired. You really think Roman was coming back here to be the OC again after getting fired four months prior? Anthony Lynn landed a HC job with the Chargers. So obviously he was off the table. I guess they could have promoted Kromer to OC but maybe McDermott didn't feel comfortable giving a grown man who throws lawn chairs at kids a big role on his coaching staff. Edited October 16, 2017 by Wayne Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Rex took a talented defensive roster and ruined it by force-feeding his scheme down their throats. McDermott had significant talent removed from the offense prior to the season, leaving him with a crap QB and no one for him even to pretend to throw the ball to. Completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The biggest issue I have is them getting rid of Kromer. The line has looked out of place and unable to play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) except that rex truly was a stupid decision and a mistake. This should have been known to the front office after watching him flame out with the Jets. But he was the 'big Name' flashy move that would get people talking about the team. They actually seem like they found someone now who know what they are doing, or at least habe a real plan they are going to stick to with a goal of building a team, instead of just trying to find a place for his brother to work.... i remember a lot of people complaining about Roman and his offence last year and couldn't wait for the bills to get rid of him. Now he should be brought back as a saviour for this offence? I don't remember his offence being much better then they are right now with him running it.... Weren't we top 12 in points with the number 1 run game with Roman? You don't remember that being better than the abortion we're trotting out there now? Edited October 16, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 How on earth did this front office think it was a good idea to switch to a zone blocking scheme with the oline we have. None of those players are fit to play in this offense. Tyrod isn't a west coast offense QB, McCoy feeds off stretch runs not right up the middle. You do realize stretch is a zone blocking run concept, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You do realize stretch is a zone blocking run concept, correct? He doesn't realize they are mutual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Lets blame McDermott for TT's shortfalls..... oh wait. / sarc Rex RUINED the defense. The offense is slightly worse than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 McD coaches defense and he improved that unit, unlike Rex. As for offense, Lynn left to become HC of the Chargers. If you want to blame anyone, blame Dennison. McD coached defense and not very well might I add . He should count his lucky stars that he hired that he hired a real Defensive Coordinator with a long track record of success in Leslie Frasier sorry McD don't get credit for what Leslie Frasier has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Lets blame McDermott for TT's shortfalls..... oh wait. / sarc Rex RUINED the defense. The offense is slightly worse than last season. Slightly worse? We had 11 games last season that we scored 24 points or more. 7 games 28 points or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Slightly worse? We had 11 games last season that we scored 24 points or more. 7 games 28 points or more. Garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Garbage time. It has nothing to do with garbage time. 5 of the 7 games of 28 or more points were wins. No garbage time. 1 of the 2 losses was the Miami game which had no garbage time. The sole remaining loss of those 7 games was the Jets game in which it was 27-24 at the end of the third quarter. The Jets went on a roll after that scoring twice more. We had two opportunities in the 4th. Scored on one bringing it back to within one score. Maybe at best you can count 1 TD as garbage time. I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) We're in that honeymoon period where having one the worst offenses in the league, mind you, after scoring 24+ a game two years straight, is totally normal and acceptable. Second worst scoring offense in the league. Trust that process. Edited October 17, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 We're in that honeymoon period where having one the worst offenses in the league, mind you, after scoring 24+ a game two years straight, is totally normal and acceptable. Second worst scoring offense in the league. Trust that process. 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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