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DJ is growing on me on the Murph Show. He seems to be getting into the details of the game more which is his strength over the normal radio-guy-who-never-played shtick which we have far too much of.

 

He was talking about the complexities of a qb/wr relationship. It started when a caller suggested Peterman come in and play. DJ said, well we're a 3-2 team right now, and a quarterback change will never happen on a team with a winning record, but he went on to explain that the primary reason for that is the timing and feel for each receiver is very different.

 

He said bringing in a new WR at this stage in the game would be nearly impossible. Elevating a practice squad receiver who knows the offense would be done first, and he said a guy like Shorts,Reilly, Brown or Streater is the only option for them right now. You absolutely need the camp and the reps in the specific offense you run in order to be able to step in and make a difference mid-season. To give up a future WR in draft pick form is too risky to gamble on getting a veteran WR that can contribute immediately.

 

Tasker chimed in and said it's not like baseball or even hoops where you can bring guys in mid-season and they can win for you right away unless it's a very specific job like kick returner, 3rd down edge rusher specialist--something one dimensional.

 

 

 

 

I've been making this point for about a week now. Bringing in a WR that doesn't fit the teams long term views doesn't make sense for a few reasons; one being that even if you did get a decent WR to come in the odds that he would be able to become a valuable contributor within the first month or so is bordering on slim to none.

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QB is the most difficult position in terms of knowing the offense, timing, etc. Sam Bradford got to Minnesota late last year right before the season started and did quite well.

 

Football isn't as complicated as it's made out to be. More often than not, the team with the most talent wins, as long as you don't have a coach who will get in the way of that.

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John Murphy = Homer Radio Echo Chamber

March 2017...

Football isn't as complicated as it's made out to be. More often than not, the team with the most talent wins, as long as you don't have a coach who will get in the way of that.

You're right. Football isn't complicated.

 

Being able to repeat something over and over with no uncertainty, variation or inconsistency -- in other words, what professional sports teams have to do to be successful week in and week out -- that is sort of difficult.

 

Talent tends to rise to the top, but practice, repetition and communication are a big part of the equation...

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I fully expect Reilly to be brought up to the 53. If the Bills are dead set on moving dareus and or Glenn, adding a WR in a deal would be smart.

 

 

....may have to wait until recent injury bug to receiving corp shakes out.....see who is short term or longer term/possible IR.....if Reilly comes up and somebody comes back soon (ie. Matthews), who goes?....I'd bring him up anyway and get rid of DiMarco.......

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I've been making this point for about a week now. Bringing in a WR that doesn't fit the teams long term views doesn't make sense for a few reasons; one being that even if you did get a decent WR to come in the odds that he would be able to become a valuable contributor within the first month or so is bordering on slim to none.

 

Hunter came in mid season last year and all he did was catch TDs. Sure the scheme was better, sure the OC was better, sure the play calling was better, but uhhh....yeah 4got my point...damn our offense was fun to watch the last 2 years...

 

Oh yeah. Its possible a WR could help off the bat but i doubt it with this scheme. Our OL isnt adapting to castillos blocking scheme, our players arent executing Dennisons plays good, it just a hunk of sht.

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Hunter came in mid season last year and all he did was catch TDs. Sure the scheme was better, sure the OC was better, sure the play calling was better, but uhhh....yeah 4got my point...damn our offense was fun to watch the last 2 years...

 

Oh yeah. Its possible a WR could help off the bat but i doubt it with this scheme. Our OL isnt adapting to castillos blocking scheme, our players arent executing Dennisons plays good, it just a hunk of sht.

 

....so why did the braintrusts subscribe to this guys's scheme change?......and now that it isn't working, Shady is being shut down, Dennison has taken away Taylor's mobility, what is the next "element of surprise"?......can drones be used to pass?.....

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Hunter came in mid season last year and all he did was catch TDs.

Huh. I guess memory makes the heart grow fonder.

 

Hunter played 12 games for the Bills last year and had 4 TDs. He started 5 games and had 10 catches overall or about two per game...

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuntJu00.htm

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I agree with this to a degree. You bring in a deep threat who can run vertical or just crossing routes and he can make a difference. I understand the whole route tree and timing for everything else, but that speed guy can still make the defenses need to respect him.

 

Percy Harvin was the perfect example. There was no timing there, just WR screens and deep routes.

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The team will make adjustments hopefully during the bye week and me as a fan will also adjust.

 

My adjustment that i will be working on is just sit down on Sundays and watch the game hoping to win. Expectations wise unfortunately i still expect the defense to permorm stellar which will still sting if they don't. As far as offense, i only expected better performances from them because of Shady but the Oline ruined that for us this season.

 

If the offense does well, it will come as a shock to me now which will lead to better emotions as a fan during gameday.

 

I will try this approach.

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I think there's a lot to this. Sammy is a great example. His production is meager and likely won't improve until there are more reps with Goff. Right now they are not on the same page.

 

Odell Beckham missed all of training camp, preseason, and first 4 to 5 games as a rookie and did just fine.

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I agree with this to a degree. You bring in a deep threat who can run vertical or just crossing routes and he can make a difference. I understand the whole route tree and timing for everything else, but that speed guy can still make the defenses need to respect him.

 

Percy Harvin was the perfect example. There was no timing there, just WR screens and deep routes.

 

 

Yeah with all due respect to Donald Jones...........what the Bills MOST need is the only kind of receiver they could realistically hope to get immediate results from.........a burner who can run away from CB's on a nine or deep post route.

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....so why did the braintrusts subscribe to this guys's scheme change?......and now that it isn't working, Shady is being shut down, Dennison has taken away Taylor's mobility, what is the next "element of surprise"?......can drones be used to pass?.....

Braintrusts failed us, failed the team. Yes but the other drones would drop them

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Braintrusts failed us, failed the team. Yes but the other drones would drop them

 

....when you game plan hits a snag, GOOD coaches adjust.....beginning to think the new wave of START/STOP technology arrived at OBD football....if we START and then get STOPPED, uh oh.....

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Huh. I guess memory makes the heart grow fonder.

 

Hunter played 12 games for the Bills last year and had 4 TDs. He started 5 games and had 10 catches overall or about two per game...

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuntJu00.htm

Damn. I guess it was the awesome TD catch he had in the Jax game. No one on our roster rite now could make that same catch. Started 5 games. With give or take 4TDs in that stretch? In that contexts it sounds good. I dont think that was the case tho.

....when you game plan hits a snag, GOOD coaches adjust.....beginning to think the new wave of START/STOP technology arrived at OBD football....if we START and then get STOPPED, uh oh.....

Right. Lynn did it and did it well enough to win, our defense cost us a lot of Ws last season. Now its our offense. Blegh.

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The missed red zone pass to Logan Thomas might be a picture perfect example of this.

 

TT's tentativeness may have been due to his uncertainty over what Thomas was going to do--stay flat or turn up field. Neither guy seemed to be on the same page...

another good and fair post on the matter

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