IDBillzFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Would anyone with detailed knowledge of the Jones Act be willing to weigh in on what gives the Executive Branch the authority to grant the waiver? A phone and pen, so I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Vital Aid Stranded at Puerto Rico’s Main Port, Unable to Move Due to Ravaged Infrastructure A mountain of food, water and other vital supplies has arrived in Puerto Rico’s main Port of San Juan. But a shortage of truckers and the island’s devastated infrastructure are making it tough to move aid to where it’s needed most. Only 20% of truck drivers have reported back to work since Hurricane Maria swept through, according to a spokesperson for Puerto Rico’s Gov. Ricardo Rosselló. On top of that, a diesel fuel shortage and a tangle of blocked roads mean the distribution of supplies is extremely challenging. Even contacting drivers is a problem because cell towers are still down. http://ktla.com/2017/09/27/vital-aid-stranded-at-puerto-ricos-main-port-unable-to-move-due-to-ravaged-infrastructure/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 They need bulldozers, payloads, and bobcats and dump trucks more than they need a fleet of supply-laden ships anchored off port. Imagine trying to get supplies to Buffalo from Albany if there were 3,000 roadblocks of twisted wreckage, downed trees, rubble, and other detritus on the Thruway and all of the bridges were out. It still won't help near-term. It just looks good. The PR relief effort is being reported so badly and falsely in the mainstream media that I honestly think this time around that editorial boards are making a conscious decision to lie and make Trump look bad. It's horrible. Case in point. This is the brother of the "immigrant" Governor of New York. http://youtu.be/x1vdFVLUdwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 They need bulldozers? Could we just send them Mike Tolbert and get a real RB instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Vital Aid Stranded at Puerto Rico’s Main Port, Unable to Move Due to Ravaged Infrastructure A mountain of food, water and other vital supplies has arrived in Puerto Rico’s main Port of San Juan. But a shortage of truckers and the island’s devastated infrastructure are making it tough to move aid to where it’s needed most. Only 20% of truck drivers have reported back to work since Hurricane Maria swept through, according to a spokesperson for Puerto Rico’s Gov. Ricardo Rosselló. On top of that, a diesel fuel shortage and a tangle of blocked roads mean the distribution of supplies is extremely challenging. Even contacting drivers is a problem because cell towers are still down. http://ktla.com/2017/09/27/vital-aid-stranded-at-puerto-ricos-main-port-unable-to-move-due-to-ravaged-infrastructure/ But hey, foreign ships can now transport goods from the US mainland to Puerto Rico, so everything is good! They need bulldozers? Could we just send them Mike Tolbert and get a real RB instead? Tolbert for a real RB and a 7th in 2019 or gtfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 They need heavy lift helicopters to set down supplies with sling and long lines . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 They need heavy lift helicopters to set down supplies with sling and long lines . Helicopters still can't carry enough. They actually, as of last night, have about 10,000 containers in San Juan port, a day after opening. The problem now is that those containers are stuck in San Juan, because there's no way to get them out of the port. Which is why, again, they were trying to limit shipping going in to damaged ports. When your logistics chain gets bottlenecked because the port fills up and ships start stacking up outside, what develops is what you'd call a "complete cluster!@#$," and it slows down delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Helicopters still can't carry enough. They actually, as of last night, have about 10,000 containers in San Juan port, a day after opening. The problem now is that those containers are stuck in San Juan, because there's no way to get them out of the port. Which is why, again, they were trying to limit shipping going in to damaged ports. When your logistics chain gets bottlenecked because the port fills up and ships start stacking up outside, what develops is what you'd call a "complete cluster!@#$," and it slows down delivery. Helicopters can drop in truck drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Helicopters can drop in truck drivers And turkeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) If they have to put supplies into cargo nets for copters to ferry that's at least something till roads , drivers , trucks and fuel are ready. This is how they did it in Nam and supplied the destroyer I was on from a supply ship. Edited September 29, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 And turkeys Two birds with one stone - Les Nesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It certainly seems that the receiving end of the supply chain is lacking. Same as happened after the Haiti earthquake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 If they have to put supplies into cargo nets for copters to ferry that's at least something till roads , drivers , trucks and fuel are ready. This is how they did it in Nam and supplied the destroyer I was on from a supply ship. A destroyer with 200 men? That doesn't quite scale to an island with 3 million people on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 A destroyer with 200 men? That doesn't quite scale to an island with 3 million people on it. That's true, I'm reaching . Very sad conditions there makes me want to try anything to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 That's true, I'm reaching . Very sad conditions there makes me want to try anything to help. Next up: We should at least drop pallets of water to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Is that the republican plan ? People need prescription medicine also to survive beside food and water They were going with the Democrat's plan, but Menendez has been tied in trial and unable to explain to everyone how it's such a great opportunity to get some bribe money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It certainly seems that the receiving end of the supply chain is lacking. Same as happened after the Haiti earthquake. After an earthquake shattered Haiti's capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war. Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to take control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/investigations/us-responded-to-haiti-quake-more-forcefully-than-to-puerto-rico-disaster/2017/09/28/74fe9c02-a465-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 After an earthquake shattered Haiti's capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war. Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to take control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/investigations/us-responded-to-haiti-quake-more-forcefully-than-to-puerto-rico-disaster/2017/09/28/74fe9c02-a465-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html Very true , that darn Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Right. And the $2,000 I donated has yet to get to the victims of that disaster. FU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 After an earthquake shattered Haiti's capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war. Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to take control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/investigations/us-responded-to-haiti-quake-more-forcefully-than-to-puerto-rico-disaster/2017/09/28/74fe9c02-a465-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html So...we're actually doing better this time around? It's been nine days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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