Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 You may want to check the drop statistics yourself. It's an interesting listI'm aware of some good players on the list. A 5.1% drop percentage and top 10 in drops doesn't impress me though. I don't hate Matthews as a player but he's a downgrade. If he gives you 80 catches for 1000 yards it will be a good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have. Do you think he dedicates more resources to stopping Watkins then boldin, for instance though? Right. That's the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have. Do you think he dedicates more resources to stopping Watkins then boldin, for instance though? Yes, I do think he would use more resources in stopping Watkins than Boldin, but at the end of the day if you judge all of Sammy's history vs. Belichik's defenses, he really wasn't a threat that executed. The point is that our big play making receiver for one reason or another was really never able to help us out too much against the Patriots. Or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes, I do think he would use more resources in stopping Watkins than Boldin, but at the end of the day if you judge all of Sammy's history vs. Belichik's defenses, he really wasn't a threat that executed. The point is that our big play making receiver for one reason or another was really never able to help us out too much against the Patriots. Or am I wrong? So you are arguing that he spent more resources to stop Sammy but that you don't see the differential for our offense? Do you think that if he now puts that extra safety in the box to stop our run game without sacrificing anything in defending a downgraded passing game that doesn't effect our offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 So you are arguing that he spent more resources to stop Sammy but that you don't see the differential for our offense? Do you think that if he now puts that extra safety in the box to stop our run game without sacrificing anything in defending a downgraded passing game that doesn't effect our offense? I think that having 2 new consistent solid players, who haven't missed any games over the past three years is arguably going to be as worrisome as Watkins who has yet to produce vs Belichek on a high level who also has missed a 1/3 of the games they've played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 This seems as good a place as any: Did Watkins go his entire Bills career without being thrown a WR screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I think that having 2 new consistent solid players, who haven't missed any games over the past three years is arguably going to be as worrisome as Watkins who has yet to produce vs Belichek on a high level who also has missed a 1/3 of the games they've played. Matthews missed games last year, and has a knee issue that's followed him a bit this offseason and anquan missed games in sf 2 years ago... no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Matthews missed games last year, and has a knee issue that's followed him a bit this offseason and anquan missed games in sf 2 years ago... no? Yes, I misspoke, they missed a couple games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Matthews missed games last year, and has a knee issue that's followed him a bit this offseason and anquan missed games in sf 2 years ago... no? Yes. As a Philly resident...there was talk of a knee issue, but said it wasn't an issue at the start of clamp. I wonder how much truth there is to the rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Inside the Sammy Watkins Trade GM Les Snead and HC Sean McVay discuss the trade that’s brought the Rams a receiver with top-flight potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Comical that you blast Goff and Wentz after one season but you sing the praises of TT who has shown little passing ability and is now on year SEVEN in the league. Bills apologist hard at work, I see. What is comical is you come out of the woodwork to discuss one topic and one topic only well....no it actually is not that funny. Just boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Bill, I don't understand your logic. On the one hand you rightly criticize Whaley and the organization for not having a coherent plan as to how to build a franchise. This franchise has failed because it took a patchwork approach instead of using its resources to build a foundation for sustainable success. That's what they are now doing! That's the course of action that you for years has strenuously called for. So what is your response when the organization does what you have been calling for? Lambaste them. The time to take this tough action is at the beginning of the tenure of this new regime. Wasting valuable time and resources to merely get by as a fringe wild-card team makes no sense to me. And it shouldn't to you as one of the most vociferous critics of how this wretched operation has historically been run. The Bills are accumulating assets (draft picks) to build a deeper roster and put themselves in a better position to acquire a franchise qb. Those ardent advocates who believed that TT was an adequate enough qb to build around have forcefully been responded to by the last regime and this new regime. He's simply not good now or ever will be. Those that believed this team as it was constructed was at the doorstep to being a serious team were out of touch with reality. The process is painful but the smart way to handle this grueling process is to do in quick bursts rather than continuing the incremental approach that has gotten this team nowhere for the past two consecutive generations. Bill, you have screamed for years that this franchise was riding the wrong bus and taking the wrong route. This new regime has gotten on a different bus and is going in a different but more rational direction. Instead of celebrating you are denigrating! I find that to be perplexing. Great post John and exactly what I have said from the get go. Some people just need something to complain about. We are all sick and tired of being sick and tired. It seems they are finally headed in the right direction. No more band aids. It's sucks to let Watkins go considering the price and how far it has set us back. This franchise is so wayward it's not even funny. Let's hope they hit on the draft and start building that foundation. That's all we can do at this point is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Oh poop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Has anyone mentioned at all that perhaps Zay Jones looking so good I Camp also was a factor in all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 ....I'd bet the split regarding the Sammy trade lines up with choosing sides on the 5th year option decision........with probable long term health outlook being a major component..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 They took one look at TT and Peterman, an KNEW the way forward... They don't want to waste any time.... It's Darnold, or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 They took one look at TT and Peterman, an KNEW the way forward... They don't want to waste any time.... It's Darnold, or bust. ....so your crystal ball is THAT clear?.......what was your Ryan Leaf forecast??............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 ....so your crystal ball is THAT clear?.......what was your Ryan Leaf forecast??............ I never cared for leaf... Not one bit. There isn't a better time for a tank.... Not for a new GM & HC.... Don't be shocked if more players go bye-bye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Yes. As a Philly resident...there was talk of a knee issue, but said it wasn't an issue at the start of clamp. I wonder how much truth there is to the rumors. I heard Stephania Bell on ESPN radio this morning - said he played through a knee injury last year but it's ok now. Edited August 12, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I heard Stephania Bell on ESPN radio this morning - said he played through a knee injury last year but it's ok now. Sounds like grade-A bulls#1t.... -Any one who's ever had a knee injury knows it ain't that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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