westerndecline Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's what we will have to wait and see. Obviously they got something from Flynn. He had to lie for a reason. And since he was talking to others about what he talked to Russians about, they probably all know. That's why Trump is so protective of Flynn and wanted Comey to back off. So yes, we don't know what, but we know it was worth lying to FBI about, it was serious enough for Trump to ask for Comey's loyalty. Can't wait to find out what it is His hair isn't really? 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: When did 45, as POTUS or a candidate, meet with Russians at Trump towers? Got a link? Flynn DID lie to the FBI. He plead guilty to it. You do not know he lied to cover up anything for 45. The very fact they could only get Flynn on process crimes in relation to that infamous call shows that the call itself was benign. The very fact Flynn lied to the FBI about something he knew they'd know he was lying about is evidence that a larger game is afoot. It's just not the game you have been hoping for. Buckle up, buttercup. You're in for a bumpy ride the next few weeks. I don't doubt it. But how many were having affairs with a lawyer for the FBI while being married to a woman working in the SEC... who just happened to get a promotion (under controversy) in October of 2016: https://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2016-217.html Speculating of course but how do you really reward someone for doing something corrupt? You don't reward them directly, you reward their spouse so the new money flowing in isn't connected. Of course, that's crazy. No one is that corrupt in the government... I think there's more to that affair than meets the eye. It's a bomb but not what dems think..... Edited December 6, 2017 by westerndecline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's what we will have to wait and see. Obviously they got something from Flynn. He had to lie for a reason. And since he was talking to others about what he talked to Russians about, they probably all know. That's why Trump is so protective of Flynn and wanted Comey to back off. So yes, we don't know what, but we know it was worth lying to FBI about, it was serious enough for Trump to ask for Comey's loyalty. Can't wait to find out what it is Prepare to be disappointed. He had to lie because he knew the FBI was leaking like a sieve. If he answered the question honestly, about a call he knew wasn't illegal and in no way had to do with collusion, and that answer had leaked to the press in January - it would have crippled the administration. General Flynn fell on the sword to protect the administration. Not from the people finding out the truth of a legal call, but to protect it from the USIC which was at the time attempting to pull off a coup. Even if you're not a Trump fan, which I'm not, you have to respect what Flynn did now that we know more about what happened. The FBI tried to manipulate Flynn into hurting the administration by answering honestly about an event that was in no way illegal. They !@#$ed up and forgot Flynn is not just a spook, but perhaps one of the greatest American intelligence operators in its history. Payback's a B word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 First parts of the IG report will come out in December, the rest being held until January. Rumors are by the end of the week there's going to be major shake up at the FBI to get ahead of it. 27 leakers are being investigated in the IG report. Wonder who's going to be smiling at the end of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 ANDREW WEISSMANN, PROUD MEMBER OF THE RESISTANCE Andrew Weissmann is Robert Mueller’s top assistant in the Russia probe. He is also a member of the anti-Trump resistance. This is no longer a suspicion. We know it’s true because Judicial Watch obtained an email Weissmann sent to fellow resistance member Sally Yates after she refused to comply with President Trump’s order to issue a travel ban. Weissmann gushed: I am so proud. And in awe. Thank you so much. All my deepest respects. Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton calls this “an astonishing and disturbing finding.” Well, disturbing anyway. I’m not astonished. Weissmann’s praise reflects the view of many liberal lawyers in Washington, D.C. I bet it’s shared widely within Mueller’s team. In any case, it’s clear that Mueller’s right hand man is a blatant anti-Trump partisan. His presence on Mueller’s team compromises the integrity, if any, of that operation. To make matters worse, Sally Yates, the resistance member Weissmann holds in awe, figures in the investigation Mueller’s team has conducted. She’s the one who, according to hertestimony to Congress, informed White House Counsel Don McGahn that Michael Flynn had made untrue statements about his talks with the Russian ambassador, and discussed with McGahn possible criminal prosecution of Flynn. {snip} Yates, then, might become an important witness in an investigation for alleged obstruction of justice by the president. Her veracity might be pivotal. It might also be contested. Major Garrett of CBS News reports that “sources with direct knowledge” say that Yates never told the White House Counsel what she testified she told him regarding Flynn’s legal jeopardy. Yates can take comfort that her veracity will be judged by a team whose number 2 guy (and likely other members) holds her in awe. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wonder who's going to be smiling at the end of this... Trump, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, Azalin said: Trump, most likely. Starting to look like it just might break that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 So basically in trying to sabotage the trump admin based on bs collusion, the fbi higher ups literally just sabotaged themselves for real collusion. To bring down the potus.... Doesn't surprise me. Fbi is a political tool , has nothing to do with justice. If this isn't further evidence this country is on the brink of civil war idk what is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 hours ago, B-Man said: If not disclosed, would this not be a Giglio violation? . Dude it might be a bad look and even be important. But as bad as Affleck and JLo? Let's not go crazy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 11 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Prepare to be disappointed. He had to lie because he knew the FBI was leaking like a sieve. If he answered the question honestly, about a call he knew wasn't illegal and in no way had to do with collusion, and that answer had leaked to the press in January - it would have crippled the administration. General Flynn fell on the sword to protect the administration. Not from the people finding out the truth of a legal call, but to protect it from the USIC which was at the time attempting to pull off a coup. Even if you're not a Trump fan, which I'm not, you have to respect what Flynn did now that we know more about what happened. The FBI tried to manipulate Flynn into hurting the administration by answering honestly about an event that was in no way illegal. They !@#$ed up and forgot Flynn is not just a spook, but perhaps one of the greatest American intelligence operators in its history. Payback's a B word. I won't be disappointed, this presidency is sinking in spite of this treason which will probably be proven. Your lame excuses not withstanding 1 hour ago, westerndecline said: So basically in trying to sabotage the trump admin based on bs collusion, the fbi higher ups literally just sabotaged themselves for real collusion. To bring down the potus.... Doesn't surprise me. Fbi is a political tool , has nothing to do with justice. If this isn't further evidence this country is on the brink of civil war idk what is.... You don't care that this campaign was conspiring with a murderous thug to shape our foreign policy? Have you seen the gutting out of the State Department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I won't be disappointed, this presidency is sinking in spite of this treason which will probably be proven. Your lame excuses not withstanding You don't care that this campaign was conspiring with a murderous thug to shape our foreign policy? Have you seen the gutting out of the State Department? Pretty sure Trump was running AGAINST Hillary Clinton; not conspiring WITH her. Edited December 6, 2017 by Taro T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Pretty sure Trump was running AGAINST Hillary Clinton; not conspiring WITH her. I guess that is a no, then. Who side will you be on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Whos, whos. It's not "who own the Chiefs;" it's "who OWNS the Chiefs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Taro T said: Whos, whos. It's not "who own the Chiefs;" it's "who OWNS the Chiefs." Would you kiss the republic good bye rather than having the Democrats in charge? Serious question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 CONRAD BLACK: Retreat of the Democrats: Grows Hard To Disguise After Indictment of Flynn. “To anyone with any legal insight, such as Alan Dershowitz, Trey Gowdy, and Andy McCarthy (one of them should be the attorney general), it was the barefaced admission by Special Counsel Robert Mueller that, after nine months in charge of an investigation that had already been under way for eight months, he has absolutely nothing to justify continuing this charade within its original mandate to explore a Trump-Russian connection.” To be fair: His investigation has certainly produced a lot of amusing texts. DAVID FRENCH: The Incredible Tale of a Reckless, Partisan FBI Agent and Our Partisan Bureaucracy. “Peter Strzok’s story will hurt public trust in the federal government at the worst possible time. If the story hadn’t been verified by virtually every mainstream-media outlet in the country, you’d think it came straight from conspiratorial fever dreams of the alt-right.” French, of course, was a NeverTrumper, but that only adds force to this piece. And maybe they were never “fever dreams.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Would you kiss the republic good bye rather than having the Democrats in charge? Serious question It's been said by others here quite often, but still it rings true. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: It's been said by others here quite often, but still it rings true. You're an idiot. What does that make you? I'm confident I have the edge over your stupid ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What does that make you? I'm confident I have the edge over your stupid ass. You're edging his azz? Oh dear Lord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, Nanker said: You're edging his azz? Oh dear Lord. Don't you have more American flags to go desecrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 51 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What does that make you? I'm confident I have the edge over your stupid ass. My ass? Possibly. Anything else? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, Taro T said: My ass? Possibly. Anything else? Not a chance. You are pretty stupid, so I'd bet most everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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