YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 @insidetheleague 2 names I'm hearing that could emerge as Dir of Player Personnel for #Bills: #Dolphins DPP Joe Schoen and #Panthers Pro Director Mark Koncz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 @insidetheleague 2 names I'm hearing that could emerge as Dir of Player Personnel for #Bills: #Dolphins DPP Joe Schoen and #Panthers Pro Director Mark Koncz. ...still think Monos should be in the mix.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Any thoughts about those 2 yolo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Any thoughts about those 2 yolo?Schoen has been with Miami for quite awhile - started as a scout . I wonder what the connection is, if any. And it seems like a lateral move. Koncz would be getting a promotion. Also Gettleman put the kibosh on any laterals. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article149714399.html Edited May 13, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Schoen has been with Miami for quite awhile - started as a scout . I wonder what the connection is, if any. And it seems like a lateral move. Koncz would be getting a promotion. Also Gettleman put the kibosh on any laterals. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article149714399.html Well not really a Kibosh on scouts. Just that they can't make lateral moves. Could get a promotion from regional scout to national scout. Not talking about Koncz in this case since it would be lateral but other scouts on the panthers. Also curious, I don't know how the NFL works but I know people, including myself, have made "lateral" moves (new job description, responsibilities, etc.) added to the position to increase salary band. Curious if we could offer Koncz the DPP position along with another role and that would make it ok. Thought? EDIT: oops, misread that. I guess they can block even scouts. Although I recall hearing that not a lot of teams block for promotions because it's a bad look for the organization and could make the employee unhappy. Edited May 13, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Schoen has been with Miami for quite awhile - started as a scout . I wonder what the connection is, if any. And it seems like a lateral move. Koncz would be getting a promotion. Also Gettleman put the kibosh on any laterals.http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article149714399.html Schoen worked for Panthers before Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Well not really a Kibosh on scouts. Just that they can't make lateral moves. Could get a promotion from regional scout to national scout. Not talking about Koncz in this case since it would be lateral but other scouts on the panthers. Also curious, I don't know how the NFL works but I know people, including myself, have made "lateral" moves (new job description, responsibilities, etc.) added to the position to increase salary band. Curious if we could offer Koncz the DPP position along with another role and that would make it ok. Thought? EDIT: oops, misread that. I guess they can block even scouts. Although I recall hearing that not a lot of teams block for promotions because it's a bad look for the organization and could make the employee unhappy. Koncz would be getting a promotion if he came over as Director of Player Personnel. I worded it confusingly ... I was just noting that he would have to since Gettleman isn't letting anyone out of their contract just to move over laterally and work for Beane. If Koncz was offered and wanted the job he could go. Only thing Panthers might do is promote him within their org to try to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Are you under contract? Whole different ballgame! Sure what you're saying happens all the time, but not typically for people under contact. You could argue a fireman, or a teacher is under contract and they leave to take other jobs to, but I'd imagine these types of contracts are different and it's a contact exclusively with a person. Plus with the fireman, teacher, etc, if there were budget cuts and they had layoffs, they'd get severance pay, but wouldn't be paid the balance of their contract which again happens here. The one part I don't know is down at a scout level, are they under contract or just hired at will?? Well not really a Kibosh on scouts. Just that they can't make lateral moves. Could get a promotion from regional scout to national scout. Not talking about Koncz in this case since it would be lateral but other scouts on the panthers. Also curious, I don't know how the NFL works but I know people, including myself, have made "lateral" moves (new job description, responsibilities, etc.) added to the position to increase salary band. Curious if we could offer Koncz the DPP position along with another role and that would make it ok. Thought? EDIT: oops, misread that. I guess they can block even scouts. Although I recall hearing that not a lot of teams block for promotions because it's a bad look for the organization and could make the employee unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Ah I see they hired Schoen as asst GM. Look for the other as DPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Ah I see they hired Schoen as asst GM. Look for the other as DPP.thanks for all this you do. So much easier just sifting your stuff from the bbmbers when ya need info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 thanks for all this you do. So much easier just sifting your stuff from the bbmbers when ya need info. ...yup...THAT bunch......I used to post there (30k+)....care to enlighten me PERSONALLY what I have done wrong here?......or are your shorts just on azz backwards today?....please humble me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 thanks for all this you do. So much easier just sifting your stuff from the bbmbers when ya need info. Pots just never seem to cease calling kettles black. Blame bbmb.... Sure the increase in stupid threads has increased, repetitive threads, adgenda driven convos etc, but the people contributing the most negatively are tenured TBDers from what I have seen. But yeah, YOLO, you are the premier news-breaker around here and I only open long threads when I see you as the last poster, thinking there must be some updated news. Thanks bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Hey thanks all! I have my share of stupid posts though as you all know. Just trying to balance it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Pots just never seem to cease calling kettles black. Blame bbmb.... Sure the increase in stupid threads has increased, repetitive threads, adgenda driven convos etc, but the people contributing the most negatively are tenured TBDers from what I have seen. But yeah, YOLO, you are the premier news-breaker around here and I only open long threads when I see you as the last poster, thinking there must be some updated news. Thanks bro. Not really. The longest tenured TBDers are the more reasonable fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 ...yup...THAT bunch......I used to post there (30k+)....care to enlighten me PERSONALLY what I have done wrong here?......or are your shorts just on azz backwards today?....please humble me....did you know the country band lone star began as texassee? Pots just never seem to cease calling kettles black. Blame bbmb.... Sure the increase in stupid threads has increased, repetitive threads, adgenda driven convos etc, but the people contributing the most negatively are tenured TBDers from what I have seen. But yeah, YOLO, you are the premier news-breaker around here and I only open long threads when I see you as the last poster, thinking there must be some updated news. Thanks bro. speaking of pots. Most people make the mistake of washing cast iron. That is not how you care for cast iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Hey thanks all! I have my share of stupid posts though as you all know. Just trying to balance it out. You're OK, for a Luckeyes fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 You're OK, for a Luckeyes fan.The Spot Was Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 So does this mean that Koncz will be Director of Player Personnel with Shoen as AGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 So does this mean that Koncz will be Director of Player Personnel with Shoen as AGM Maybe but Gettleman probably isn't letting anybody else go. http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article149714399.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonbreath123 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Not really. The longest tenured TBDers are the more reasonable fans. Allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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