Augie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Right on, I agree with this 100%I agree, in fact he could be worth even less then what we used to get him now I agree What did you see that makes you agree? Gut feeling? Unless you're there every day, how can you have any idea? I'll trust the staff, then judge them on how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Cardale progressed so slowly as opposed to his recent contemporaries that it almost pulls up a red flag about his status as a future QB in the NFL.What is the basis for this statement? The one quarter of football he played in the game that Buffalo was trying to lose? Are you serious? And who are these "recent contemporaries" who have progressed faster than Cardale has? Edited April 17, 2017 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 What is the basis for this statement? The one quarter of football he played in the game that Buffalo was trying to lose? Are you serious? And who are these "recent contemporaries" who have progressed faster than Cardale has? I'm not swearing Cardale is headed for the HOF, but some people have made their minds up based on zero information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I'm not swearing Cardale is headed for the HOF, but some people have made their minds up based on zero information.While ignoring all the information that suggests he's worth trying to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) While ignoring all the information that suggests he's worth trying to develop.It's more like your ignoring all the information out that he isn't going to be any better then he is. He is a huge long shot to even become a backup QB in this league. Can a mircle happen? Sure but odds are slim to none so OBD has to find another kid to take his spot and to fight it out for the spot on this NFL team in the most important position in football. If it don't click for him this TC he should be released Edited April 17, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 In case Cardale isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 It's more like your ignoring all the information out that he isn't going to be any better then he is. He is a huge long shot to even become a backup QB in this league.What information is that? Enlighten me. That he was benched by Urban Meyer (aka, the Quarterback Wisperer), when he was in college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 It's more like your ignoring all the information out that he isn't going to be any better then he is. He is a huge long shot to even become a backup QB in this league. Can a mircle happen? Sure but odds are slim so OBD has to find another kid to take his spot, fight it out. I'll ignore the grammar, but exactly what is that information you are speaking of? Or....if I'm fair, of which you are speaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I'll ignore the grammar, but exactly what is that information you are speaking of? Or....if I'm fair, of which you are speaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) I'll ignore the grammar, but exactly what is that information you are speaking of? Or....if I'm fair, of which you are speaking? Off the top of my head Ill sayhis accuracy, doesn't read defenses very well makes bad decisions and isn't a hard worker. Top off losing his job in college. Also heard they had to teach him how to even hold the ball correctly last year. Footwork, mechanics, he's got everything going against him. Only plus is he has a strong arm. Need dedication to the sport to be good at it and when other stuff blends in with it, it pushes fail even quicker. It would take a mircle to even become a backup in my opinion, then again this is the Bills. Edited April 17, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Off the top of my head Ill say his accuracy, doesn't read defenses very well makes bad decisions and isn't a hard worker. Top off losing his job in college. Also heard they had to teach him how to even hold the ball correctly last year. Need dedication to the sport to be good at it and when other stuff blends in with it it pushes fail even quicker. It would take a mircle to even become a backup in my opinion, then again this is the Bills. So, where are the facts in there? What inside knowledge do you have? I'm not saying he is the answer, but I won't swear he's not based on zero information. That would be the definition of ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) So, where are the facts in there? What inside knowledge do you have? I'm not saying he is the answer, but I won't swear he's not based on zero information. That would be the definition of ignorance. Zero information?Plenty of info out on him, all you have to do is look. What I stated was in my opinion. Like I said a mircle could happen but don't hold you breathe is all In saying. What you highlighted said in my opinion. Edited April 17, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Zero information? Plenty of info out on him, all you have to do is look. What I stated was in my opinion. Like I said a mircle could happen but don't hold you breathe is all In saying. What you highlighted said in my opinion. Every opinion is fine. Stating there is "info" on him is just inaccurate. He threw a few balls in the 4th quarter week 17 in a meaningless game. Do you have more info? Again, I'm not on the bus, but saying he's a bust is baseless (unless you are an insider). Edited April 17, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Off the top of my head Ill say his accuracy, doesn't read defenses very well makes bad decisions and isn't a hard worker. Top off losing his job in college. Also heard they had to teach him how to even hold the ball correctly last year. Footwork, mechanics, he's got everything going against him. Only plus is he has a strong arm. Need dedication to the sport to be good at it and when other stuff blends in with it, it pushes fail even quicker. It would take a mircle to even become a backup in my opinion, then again this is the Bills. Really. "Off the top of your head?" Again, is there some inside info you are privy to? Or are you basing your opinion off the quarter of meaningless football vs. the Jets and maybe that article from over a year ago that cd1 posted as "proof" of Jones having no future potential? Off the top of your head... The certainty with which many of the posters in this thread have stated their opinions off the top of their heads, while offering no evidence whatsoever is bizarre. Off the top of your head has no credibility. Edited April 17, 2017 by Rocky Landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) For those who seem to have information about Cardale that most don't, here's an update on BuffaloBills.com: Bills Today: Jones confident after offseason improvement Posted Apr 14, 2017 Anthony Sambrotto Contributing Correspondent Bills on Facebook Bills on Twitter In this edition of Bills Today, Cardale Jones explains how work in the offseason has improved his confidence, journeyman QB Josh Woodrum is eager to capitalize on his opportunity in Buffalo and Bills Draft sleepers are identified. 1. Jones confident after offseason improvement With a battle for Buffalo’s backup quarterback position looming, Cardale Jones is confident that he can fill the role after improving his game in the offseason Jones, drafted by the Bills in the fourth round of the 2016 Draft, joined the John Murphy Show this week to talk about the experience already under his belt, the work he has put in on and off the field this offseason. The 24-year-old said that he worked with a personal quarterback coach throughout the winter, working on Jones’ ability to throw in less than ideal situations. Edited April 17, 2017 by LittleJoeCartwright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 For those who seem to have information about Cardale that most don't, here's an update on BuffaloBills.com: Bills Today: Jones confident after offseason improvement Posted Apr 14, 2017 Anthony Sambrotto Contributing Correspondent Bills on Facebook Bills on Twitter In this edition of Bills Today, Cardale Jones explains how work in the offseason has improved his confidence, journeyman QB Josh Woodrum is eager to capitalize on his opportunity in Buffalo and Bills Draft sleepers are identified. 1. Jones confident after offseason improvement With a battle for Buffalo’s backup quarterback position looming, Cardale Jones is confident that he can fill the role after improving his game in the offseason Jones, drafted by the Bills in the fourth round of the 2016 Draft, joined the John Murphy Show this week to talk about the experience already under his belt, the work he has put in on and off the field this offseason. The 24-year-old said that he worked with a personal quarterback coach throughout the winter, working on Jones’ ability to throw in less than ideal situations. So, what you're saying is: bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 It's more like your ignoring all the information out that he isn't going to be any better then he is. He is a huge long shot to even become a backup QB in this league. Can a mircle happen? Sure but odds are slim to none so OBD has to find another kid to take his spot and to fight it out for the spot on this NFL team in the most important position in football. If it don't click for him this TC he should be released I also would like to read this great insight of information that a rookie qb isnt going to improve when his physical talents are so high I will wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) He also out-threw J.T. Barrett flat-footed (see the bottom of the page): http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/4/15/15314014/cardale-jones-ohio-states-spring-game-2017?yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp i can also out-throw JT flat flooted, sadly Edited April 17, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 What is the basis for this statement? The one quarter of football he played in the game that Buffalo was trying to lose? Are you serious? And who are these "recent contemporaries" who have progressed faster than Cardale has? Zak Russell Kirk Cody Connor Bryce And more but my fingers are tiring from typing. All QBs taken in later rounds who were able to at least dress for their teams games and move ahead of being more than 3rd string long shot that Jones has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Zak Russell Kirk Cody Connor Bryce And more but my fingers are tiring from typing. All QBs taken in later rounds who were able to at least dress for their teams games and move ahead of being more than 3rd string long shot that Jones has. So, you know all these guys well enough to refer to them by their first names? So, what you're saying is: bust? No, I don't think they should start working on his HOF bust just yet. Edited April 17, 2017 by LittleJoeCartwright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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