So, your United flight is overbooked?

[Dante]

Good thing he was on Untied. If he was flying Chinese they would have tossed him in the luggage underneath and called the rendering truck (or maybe the body part harvesting vehicle) for his body when they landed. Delightful, compassionate nation that they have proven themselves to be.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Update: Passenger is David Dao

 

"Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005, according to the documents. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

 

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

Wow... People in glass houses! You'd think he's just fall on sword with that track record.

 

Anybody who isn't squeaky clean shouk not push the envelope.

 

Not saying he is all that wrong, but track record won't help him. Character assasination surely follows these guys. Probably bettet to let somebody else take up the fight.

 

Which leads me to. What if somehow a company like UA can find this stuff out? Make their "lottery" picking a whole lot easier! Have each passenger's whole life's security dossier right there @ their disposal.

I will not volunteer for vouchers. Had one for planned trip to New Orleans and Katrina occurred; other airlines gave refunds but mine only gave vouchers good for 1 year I was told. Found out that the voucher was good only for one year from PURCHASE not scheduled flight date and I booked ticket when game date was announced so over 5 months was not included; then the airline kept saying "you cannot use voucher" on multiple flights because plane had maximum number of vouchers on it already even though many seats open. Have never flown on airline again.

Which airline? SWA? You don't have to say if you don't want to. Just so others can know... Keep in mind.

 

And it his license was returned. Lets not leave that out so he WAS a doctor not like racist stated above.

 

Yeah... But if he is trying to get his life back in order, he needs to take a few on the chin. This is one of them. Be a man and know that he isn't in best position to fight then and there in "The Man's" personal playground. Get from point A to point B... Thank You Sir, may I have another.

 

Sucks because he was picked because his ticket was lowest priced... I think? Teaches the lesson that while getting your life in order, stop making yourself a magnet for schit! At least overspend a little on ticket, you won't get picked.

 

Or... This is best thing that ever happened to him! ;-)

Edited April 11, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois

[row_33]

Cut him a cheque for a few mill and a NDA

 

Change the policy to make it more public friendly and don't play skimpy games asking for volunteers.

when they refuse laptops open on the plane, which they really should, it will be real fun

[Punching Bag]

Voucher is definitely not enough - costing a day of work; they could have booked him on a different airline.

 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-you-too-could-get-dragged-off-a-plane-if-the-airline-overbooks-your-flight-2017-04-10?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

 

The crew for the flight from Chicago to Louisville, Ky., was reportedly seeking four passengers to give up their seats and take another flight at 3 p.m. on Monday in exchange for a $400 travel voucher and a night at a hotel.

[Punching Bag]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-shares-tumbling-140648573.html

 

United had offered a $1000 voucher to anyone willing to give up their seat on the overbooked flight, according to a letter sent by Munoz to United employees on Monday obtained by the Associated Press.

But as Bloomberg’s Joe Weisenthal quipped on Tuesday, given the drop in United’s market cap it seems the actual offer price for that voucher could’ve been in the hundreds of millions of dollars and the company would still be making out fine

[hemma]

the dude should have just **** himself. let's seem them carry him off the plan then.

 

Good one Teef. The guy was 69, so accidents are expected to happen. I had one earlier this morning.

 

Anyway, that's probably going to show up as a tip on travel sites.

[Mark Vader]

I worked for United 1968-2003. I'm not defending them but here are the facts as I see them;

 

1) Overbooking is a policy that started when the airlines were government regulated by the CAB. The CAB went away in 1979. At the time the airlines argued that they were losing too much from no-shows, the fares were regulated, and there was no way to recover the loss. Fair enough. Now there are penalties for being a no show, rules, re-booking fees etc,etc., so maybe overbooking has outlived its usefulness? By the way JetBlue has a policy of NOT overbooking-just sayin!

2) That wasn't really United BUT United Express, a group of contract carriers who pay their people dirt, no benefits, are under trained/supervised and have no sincere interest in seeing the job done right. So United lets them dress their agents, and paint their planes while thinking they save money on such a deal. United will take the fall, and maybe they are getting what they deserve? If it looks like United, it must be United.....not true! Even though this happened at ORD, a UA hub, UA does not handle the UA Eexpress flights, even at ORD. Having said that, once you get away from the hubs, all the employees are contract people. My wife & I, retired from Seattle but live in the Richmond VA area. We have travel benefits by virtue of my 35 years but given the choice, we drive to Dulles to fly. The contract operations are too painful to watch or experience. That's only because we are both UA retirees and we, despite being screwed out of our pensions, do still care!

3) The reason they needed the seat was for a dead heading crew member, who was likely needed in Louisville to cover another flight. That's NO excuse but unfortunately is the fact. IF they were compelled to ride a jump seat, it would count against their crew rest time, which bites into their duty total duty time available out of Louisville. (FAA duty regulations). The United Express crew desk needs to get their act together so that crew are moved around the system without passenger disruption or notice!

4) The Police officers were not Chicago Police but TSA/Homeland security people. I worked at O'Hare in the 80's, and the Chicago Police had the Airport security responsibility but that was well before all the TSA theatrei

 

Sadly people have bad experiences on ALL of the airlines. There are a lot of people who would NEVER FLY this or that carrier. Fair enough, it's a free market place, but the over booking policies of ALL the airlines need to be done away with. They are no longer economically justified in any airline business model..

Thank you for posting this, and for pointing out that this was United Express not United.

 

Interesting that JetBlue does not overbook. Do you know why? I've always enjoyed flying with them.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Cut him a cheque for a few mill and a NDA

 

Change the policy to make it more public friendly and don't play skimpy games asking for volunteers.

 

when they refuse laptops open on the plane, which they really should, it will be real fun

LoL! Brilliant! We diverge on issues @ times... But Man, again, I like the cut of your jib! Ha!

 

The spelling of check has me a little concerned though. But, what's a little strip of water and a big azz waterfalls between us! Conservatives up there are are just really very cool liberals down here... Right? :-)

[ExiledInIllinois]

the dude should have just **** himself. let's seem them carry him off the plan then.

You new guys are awesome!

 

Hey... Worth a shot, also throw down a hunger strike... Smear some poo on the walls too. It worked (okay maybe not all that well physically) for Bobby Sands and the IRA:

 

http://historybuff.com/man-who-starved-himself-for-his-country-eNV3AQv8Dz4k

 

Smear poo for your country! Get nekkid too! Dirty protest!!!

[26CornerBlitz]

The PR campaign begins......

 

@MikeDelMoro

Meanwhile... a new email from United CEO Oscar Munoz to employees: "I'm sorry. We will fix this."

[ExiledInIllinois]

Thank you for posting this, and for pointing out that this was United Express not United.

 

Interesting that JetBlue does not overbook. Do you know why? I've always enjoyed flying with them.

It was mentioned earlier about United Express. MN's input is much appreciated, like going straight to the cultural source!

[row_33]

People around me are hoping this takes major airlines down and people now get respect.

 

I reply that whatever the airline pays out will be 100% handed right over to the increase in airline fare in two seconds.

[CountDorkula]

 

The PR campaign begins......

 

@MikeDelMoro

Meanwhile... a new email from United CEO Oscar Munoz to employees: "I'm sorry. We will fix this."

 

Does anyone actually believe any of this? Or that Oscar really cares?

[Mark Vader]

Does anyone actually believe any of this? Or that Oscar really cares?

He cares because this is a publicity nightmare.

[DC Tom]

He cares because this is a publicity nightmare.

 

Or, as investors call it, a "buying opportunity."

[KD in CA]

My god eii's on a soapbox

If the guy had moved his ball 1/2" on the green, EII would have been fine with his treatment by police.

[dib]

Lets see, he was offered a grand to leave his seat. Then he throws a sh*t storm about vacating his seat. Afterwords he re-

boards the aircraft, apparently in a daze. How would his fellow passengers react if he pulled this stunt at 35,000 feet?

Seeing as how I'm a white knuckle flier, I would have dropped him like a hot rock if he endangered the flight.

[Punching Bag]

Lets see, he was offered a grand to leave his seat. Then he throws a sh*t storm about vacating his seat. Afterwords he re-

boards the aircraft, apparently in a daze. How would his fellow passengers react if he pulled this stunt at 35,000 feet?

Seeing as how I'm a white knuckle flier, I would have dropped him like a hot rock if he endangered the flight.

 

No it was NOT a grand - it was a voucher, a voucher with lots of conditions. With cash he could have paid for that 5 hour limo ride someone suggested.

 

And he would NOT have been asked to leave his seat in middle of flight since TSA officers would not been on plane.

 

It seems like you are type who would have dropped a kid like a rock too if he was kicking your seat.

[mead107]

Guy still did not need to be an a hole

[dib]

 

No it was NOT a grand - it was a voucher, a voucher with lots of conditions. With cash he could have paid for that 5 hour limo ride someone suggested.

 

And he would NOT have been asked to leave his seat in middle of flight since TSA officers would not been on plane.

 

It seems like you are type who would have dropped a kid like a rock too if he was kicking your seat.

No of course he wouldn't have been ASKED to leave his seat, I'm saying what if he went ballistic at altitude. He gets upset because he didn't get any peanuts. Oh by the way, I are not type to drop a kick like a rock. (what?) I would however have words with the parent(s)