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The Bills had Rivers in today to work out and interview. They need to find a way to get this kid. Don't see him lasting much pass the 4th, and right now they dont have a 4th rounder. May take their 3rd round pick to get him.

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The Bills had Rivers in today to work out and interview. They need to find a way to get this kid. Don't see him lasting much pass the 4th, and right now they dont have a 4th rounder. May take their 3rd round pick to get him.

 

Derek Rivers in the 4th?

 

That would qualify as an amazing steal.

 

I think Rivers is a top-50 guy right now.

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Derek Rivers in the 4th?

 

That would qualify as an amazing steal.

 

I think Rivers is a top-50 guy right now.

I'd be surprised but he has the size strength and speed to go that early. Playing at that level hurts him a little but playing in the MVC helps a little.

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I'd be surprised but he has the size strength and speed to go that early. Playing at that level hurts him a little but playing in the MVC helps a little.

 

Rivers is the kind of kid that the combine can really help.

 

Sure, he looks dominant on tape, but scouts want to know if that speed, fluidity, and athleticism merely pop because of who he's playing against.

 

Then he comes to Indy and blows the doors off the testing--4th in 40, 4th in bench, 5th in vertical, 6th in broad, 3rd in 3-cone. If there were any doubt about whether or not he belongs among the top pass-rushing prospects in the class, it's gone now.

 

My opinion only (obviously), but I reckon Buffalo needs to grab him at 44 if they want him.

 

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Rather have Jordan Willis but kid has good potential too.

 

Love to see us looking at DLineman. We need to add more and more talent there with Kyle close to retirement, Dareus with suspensions the past few years and Shaq unproven.

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I see a lot of Michael McCrary when I watch him....... but just like McCrary that potential might not come to fruition until he's on his second team.

 

Love pass rushers but not a fan of him at #44.

 

 

 

 

The guy he reminded me of most was P. R. Kerrigan--tall and lean with excellent COD skills. Doubt he's as low/explosive out of the gate as Kerrigan though.

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He is projected to go in the 1st-2nd round.

I'm seeing 2nd/3rd round on CBS. That's much more reasonable to me. I'm not even thinking of him at 44 though. He's not even a guy I'd be excited about in round 3 of this draft.

 

Looks like a DE to me

 

Yes. I see a 4-3 DE. Someone might try to convert him to a 3-4 OLB, but that's a huge projection. YSU DE to NFL 3-4 OLB is an incredible change and jump forward.

 

He's tall enough and fast enough, 248lbs, to cover Gronk

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/derek-rivers?id=2558040

You're probably the only one on the planet wanting to see that. Well, you, Gronk, Brady, Belichick, Kraft, etc.

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The guy he reminded me of most was P. R. Kerrigan--tall and lean with excellent COD skills. Doubt he's as low/explosive out of the gate as Kerrigan though.

 

 

What you don't want to be is the team that spends an early pick on a small school pass rusher only to have them be invisible for 3 years before reach their potential elsewhere.

 

McCrary was a late pick.......guys like Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett were late bloomers.

 

You spend a round 1-3 pick on a pass rusher they need to be pushing for the starting job and producing by year 2 at least.

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He's tall enough and fast enough, 248lbs, to cover Gronk

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/derek-rivers?id=2558040

 

There's a lot of guys 6'4" and 248 - that doesn't mean you can cover. He's a defensive end in a 4-3 and he'd only be an OLB in a 3-4. I'm not saying he can't cover or can't convert to an OLB but in a 4-3 that just wouldn't make sense.

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There's a lot of guys 6'4" and 248 - that doesn't mean you can cover. He's a defensive end in a 4-3 and he'd only be an OLB in a 3-4. I'm not saying he can't cover or can't convert to an OLB but in a 4-3 that just wouldn't make sense.

 

In the games I watched, he had a total of 2 coverage drops. Not really off-ball drops either, covering the flat in a zone blitz.

 

Didn't do a bad job but he doesn't scream conversion player. He screams designated pass rusher, just wind him up and let him attack. Struggles with the run but he's got a ton of potential as a pass rusher. Guys with his skill set don't last long enough for him to be on the board when I'd consider him.

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In the games I watched, he had a total of 2 coverage drops. Not really off-ball drops either, covering the flat in a zone blitz.

 

Didn't do a bad job but he doesn't scream conversion player. He screams designated pass rusher, just wind him up and let him attack. Struggles with the run but he's got a ton of potential as a pass rusher. Guys with his skill set don't last long enough for him to be on the board when I'd consider him.

 

I won't profess to know his game all that well but from the little I've read - it seems he often overruns to get to the passer and gets beat in the run game because of the QB pursuit. I think another knock is he's described as somewhat "tight hipped". Again, not saying he can't convert but I see him as a part time pass rush specialist that could earn additional playing time as he learns to understand the other responsibilities of the DE position.

 

To add to your point about his skills dictating a higher draft position than you'd be willing to entertain - I'd add that would probably also ring true for a team running a 3-4. A team running a 4-3 would be interested in him at a higher draft position than a 3-4 looking to convert him would.

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