Deranged Rhino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 From Schumer to RFE as sources. Completely honest brokers who have yet to spin a lie about Trump/Russia in the past two years. Some people are gluttons for disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: From Schumer to RFE as sources. Completely honest brokers who have yet to spin a lie about Trump/Russia in the past two years. Some people are gluttons for disappointment. Sure thing comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: https://www.democrats.senate.gov/news/press-releases/schumer-floor-remarks-on-the-hundreds-of-thousands-of-americans-harmed-by-the-trump-shutdown-senate-republicans-responsibility-to-help-re-open-the-government-and-the-motion-to-disapprove-the-trump-administrations-proposal-to-relax-sanctions-on-three-russian-companies Oh please say something about this source! OK, I'll bite. Schumer is a lying scoundrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: From Schumer to RFE as sources. Completely honest brokers who have yet to spin a lie about Trump/Russia in the past two years. Some people are gluttons for disappointment. I suspect it won't be long before @TH3 starts explaining how we know Trump and Russia are tied at the hip because they have the goods on Lindsey Graham being gay, and that's the only reason Graham suddenly backs Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: OK, I'll bite. Schumer is a lying scoundrel. But you will say anything to back Trump and Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Comfortably Smug @ComfortablySmug Trump scratching his nose within a thousand feet of Putin = Manchurian candidate. Obama telling Putin on a mic "I'll have more flexibility after the election" = very good and patriotic Quote Tweet Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 In light of recent reports, it's worth highlighting again this July 2017 video of Trump seeming to gesture to Putin at the G-20. 0:15 214.2K views 8:43 AM · Jan 17, 2019 · Twitter for Android 885 Retweets 3.3K Likes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Comfortably Smug @ComfortablySmug Trump scratching his nose within a thousand feet of Putin = Manchurian candidate. Obama telling Putin on a mic "I'll have more flexibility after the election" = very good and patriotic Quote Tweet Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 In light of recent reports, it's worth highlighting again this July 2017 video of Trump seeming to gesture to Putin at the G-20. 0:15 214.2K views 8:43 AM · Jan 17, 2019 · Twitter for Android 885 Retweets 3.3K Likes LOL, ya, that's all Trump has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Lefty lunacy continues ThinkProgress well and TRULY jumped the shark with their latest conspiracy about Russian infiltration Wow. Apparently, Russians are infiltrating our country through homeschooling now. Don’t make that face, we didn’t write it. Quote Casey Michel ✔@cjcmichel NEW: Meet the latest front in Russian infiltration among the American far-right—America's right-wing homeschooling movement. https://thinkprogress.org/americas-biggest-right-wing-homeschooling-group-has-been-networking-with-sanctioned-russians-1f2b5b5ad031/ … 11:10 AM - Jan 17, 2019 . From ThinkProgress (sorry!): The group and its origins sound innocuous enough. But the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) — a right-wing group founded 36 years ago — has deepened connections between America’s religious right and Russians even as the latter have been sanctioned by the United States, according to a ThinkProgress investigation. This sounds like an episode of Archer, but not funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 But a Soviet infiltration of US upper education wasn't a concern. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Lefty lunacy continues ThinkProgress well and TRULY jumped the shark with their latest conspiracy about Russian infiltration Wow. Apparently, Russians are infiltrating our country through homeschooling now. Don’t make that face, we didn’t write it. What? I mean...what? What??? WHAT?????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 136 Republicans in the House come over. They seem to have been convinced by Shumer's arguments on Trump and Russia Quote The New York Times noted, “Thursday’s House vote, in which nearly 70 percent of House Republicans sided with Democrats and against the Trump administration, represented an even more dramatic display of Republican opposition to the move, signaling concerns within President Trump’s own party about his administration’s handling of a key aspect of its Russia policy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 And yet this clown Romney votes with Trump to lift sanctions. Quote First of all, Russia I indicated is a geopolitical foe. Not... excuse me. It's a geopolitical foe, and I said in the same -- in the same paragraph I said, and Iran is the greatest national security threat we face. Russia does continue to battle us in the U.N. time and time again. I have clear eyes on this. I'm not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to Russia, or Mr. Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Here's why that's nonsense: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/425864-house-votes-262-53-to-disapprove-trump-lifting-of-sanctions-on Quote In a major rebuke of President Trump, the House overwhelming passed a resolution Thursday formally disapproving of the Trump administration's rolling back of sanctions on companies owned by Oleg Deripaska, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Those companies ARE NO LONGER OWNED BY DERIPASKA. He's reduced his stakes in the companies to a non-controlling level. The sanctions are being maintained on him, as they were originally levied, but are being lifted on companies he no longer owns. You are being LIED to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Here's why that's nonsense: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/425864-house-votes-262-53-to-disapprove-trump-lifting-of-sanctions-on Those companies ARE NO LONGER OWNED BY DERIPASKA. He's reduced his stakes in the companies to a non-controlling level. The sanctions are being maintained on him, as they were originally levied, but are being lifted on companies he no longer owns. You are being LIED to. This is why you are such a complete idiot. He still owns 45% and Putin's banks and his in laws own the rest. I guess 70% of the GOP House caucus is being lied to also, but that's not a big surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 --- But Trump wants to help his best friends Quote “I do have a disagreement with the Treasury Department on this one specific issue. Although I generally support all the sanctions that have been imposed, I don’t think there’s been enough steps taken by this gangster oligarch to divest from his Russia aluminum company to lift sanctions on them. Some of my colleagues have a difference of opinion, but I disagree. He may be below 50 percent of a controlling stake share in that company, that may work for the United States, but on the streets of Moscow, that’s not the way the world works,” Cotton said. https://talkbusiness.net/2019/01/sen-cotton-says-tough-sanctions-still-needed-on-russia-nato-imperative/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) ... Again, stop and breathe. And then ask yourself (honestly) who Deripaska has closer relations to: Trump or the Clinton machine. Then reassess what you're reading. It's an information war. We're all combatants whether we wish to be or not. The only way through the war is to not take things at face value when they're reported in the establishment (or any) media. But rather to hone your own discernment, do your own digging, and cobble the truth together from multiple places. Edited January 18, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... Again, stop and breathe. And then ask yourself (honestly) who Deripaska has closer relations to: Trump or the Clinton machine. Then reassess what you're reading. It's an information war. We're all combatants whether we wish to be or not. The only way through the war is to not take things at face value when they're reported in the establishment (or any) media. But rather to hone your own discernment, do your own digging, and cobble the truth together from multiple places. Oh, Clinton is trying to lift the sanctions? I'd say that since Trump wants to help this guy make tons of money, he is closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, Clinton is trying to lift the sanctions? That's not the conclusion one should draw. In your own words, recap for me what role Deripaska played in the trump Russian story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's not the conclusion one should draw. In your own words, recap for me what role Deripaska played in the trump Russian story... Putin linked oligarch who Trump wants to help now. Yes, I can easily see the quid pro quo right there. Why did they want to elect Trump? In part for sanctions relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: And yet this clown Romney votes with Trump to lift sanctions. Trump votes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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