Beef Jerky Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I would grab Mahomes in the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I would grab Mahomes in the 5thMahomes likely won't make it out of the 2nd. 3rd Round is his absolute floor unless he gets arrsted before the draft. HIGHLY unlikely as he's no Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Mahomes likely won't make it out of the 2nd. 3rd Round is his absolute floor unless he gets arrsted before the draft. HIGHLY unlikely as he's no Baker Mayfield. It's Mahomes Sr. with the alcohol issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 If you have some free time check out Peterman. Interesting prospect. Yea he is an interesting prospect. Reminds me a little of Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Serious question. Can someone explain the hype to me about him? All I see is solid career back up. He is ok at a lot of stuff, and not great at any. I can see him being around the league a long time, just never being a proper starter Same. I can see Cleveland throwing one of their gazillion picks at him. Hue Jackson coached in the senior bowl and looked good Pocket composure. Dude can navigate and play from the pocket probably the best out of all the QBs in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Yea he is an interesting prospect. Reminds me a little of Jimmy G. The Bills are good at drafting backup QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The Mahomes Gruden QB camp aired today but I was at work. The complete episode should be up soon. Here are some of the highlights... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNoDMUOsL3c&t=15s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I like him even more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The Mahomes Gruden QB camp aired today but I was at work. The complete episode should be up soon. Here are some of the highlights... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNoDMUOsL3c&t=15s Nice find!!!! 2nd round? Id be very happy if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If I can just play devils advocate here... A majority of the year, Watson, Kizer and to an extent Trubisky have been recognized as the top QBS of this class along with Chad Kelly. Not many people if any were ever talking about Mahomes as the season went on. Now all of a sudden he's the next this guy or that guy. I like mahomes, I see a lot of tools in that he box to work with. However, people need to be more realistic about this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If I can just play devils advocate here... A majority of the year, Watson, Kizer and to an extent Trubisky have been recognized as the top QBS of this class along with Chad Kelly. Not many people if any were ever talking about Mahomes as the season went on. Now all of a sudden he's the next this guy or that guy. I like mahomes, I see a lot of tools in that he box to work with. However, people need to be more realistic about this kid. Mahomes was always considered among the top QBs in this class. It seems that some folks in the media caught on to him later is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If I can just play devils advocate here... A majority of the year, Watson, Kizer and to an extent Trubisky have been recognized as the top QBS of this class along with Chad Kelly. Not many people if any were ever talking about Mahomes as the season went on. Now all of a sudden he's the next this guy or that guy. I like mahomes, I see a lot of tools in that he box to work with. However, people need to be more realistic about this kid. 2014 the Big 3 were Manziel, Bortles, and Bridgewater. Then near the draft there were people insisting that the best QB was Derek Carr. Fact was that people in the know liked Carr. Including Kyle Shanahan but the Browns owner listened to a homeless person who told him to take Manziel over his offensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Mahomes was always considered among the top QBs in this class. It seems that some folks in the media caught on to him later is all. I remember you talking about him for a while now. Nailed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2014 the Big 3 were Manziel, Bortles, and Bridgewater. Then near the draft there were people insisting that the best QB was Derek Carr. Fact was that people in the know liked Carr. Including Kyle Shanahan but the Browns owner listened to a homeless person who told him to take Manziel over his offensive coordinator. That is not true actually. Bortles was the late riser in that class not Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 That is not true actually. Bortles was the late riser in that class not Carr. Depends on who you listened to. There were a lot of media people saying Carr was outside the top 3 for a while. Mike Mayock had Carr as QB 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Depends on who you listened to. There were a lot of media people saying Carr was outside the top 3 for a while. Mike Mayock had Carr as QB 3. Well depends what you mean as a late riser. Bortles wasn't considered likely to come out then his declaring wasn't a big deal it was in the last month of the process Bortles shot up boards. Carr had been a back end of 1st / early 2nd guy the whole way along. That year Bortles was the riser, Bridgewater the faller and Manziel the polarizing prospect. There were teams with 6th round grades on Manziel and teams with 1st round grades on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If I can just play devils advocate here... A majority of the year, Watson, Kizer and to an extent Trubisky have been recognized as the top QBS of this class along with Chad Kelly. Not many people if any were ever talking about Mahomes as the season went on. Now all of a sudden he's the next this guy or that guy. I like mahomes, I see a lot of tools in that he box to work with. However, people need to be more realistic about this kid. I agree. I've had a similar discussions with other posters elsewhere on this forum. Too many people are anointing him as the next great one. You should never do that with any player, but especially a guy like Mahomes who like almost every other play has a few question marks. He might go on to become a great one, but there isn't anything that indicates it's a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 PFF College FootballVerified account @PFF_College Mar 16 More "Every time I watch Patrick Mahomes, I come away more impressed each time. I'm convinced he'll become a top 5 QB in the NFL." @PFF_JohnKosko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Whaley literally cannot afford to not take one if available at 10. If he passes on Watson or Mahomes and they turn out good... It's over for him as it should be I agree with that statement totally I completely disagree. When has a GM ever been fired for passing on a QB in the 1st round that is seen as a project/gamble? It's not like any of these QBs are seen as sure things. Every one is seen as a project. GM's pass on project QBs every year, some that end up being good, and I have never heard of one of those GMs getting fired for it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. On the other hand, how many times has a GM been fired for whiffing on a 1st round QB pick? IMO I feel like it's almost a guarantee that if Whaley whiffs on (another) 1st round QB he will lose his job. I don't know how many GMs are given more than 2 opportunities to draft a 1st round QB, but I bet the list is extremely small (if there's even a list at all). Whaley himself said he expected to be fired if EJ Manuel didn't pan out... It's on video. GM's usually don't expect to survive missing on a 1st round QB. Especially a top 10 draft pick. If he misses on a top 10 picked QB, how can Pegula Not fire him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Mahomes will probably go around 15-25 is my guess. I completely agree. If we can trade down and land him then perfect. You can get a Zay Jones in the 2nd round. Maybe put Obi with the extra 2nd round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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