jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 8:25 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Here's the best fit for the Bills: No QB in 2017. Absolutely.. Last time we drafted a QB in a down QB draft we got EJ who was the worst first choice in Bills history as it set the franchise back 4 years at least.
John from Riverside Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 im not conviced its a bad draft i just dont think there are day 1 starters
jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:06 PM, John from Hemet said: im not conviced its a bad draft i just dont think there are day 1 starters Are they first round draft choices for the Bills given our obvious need at WR
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 8:38 PM, jms62 said: Absolutely.. Last time we drafted a QB in a down QB draft we got EJ who was the worst first choice in Bills history as it set the franchise back 4 years at least. This is NOTHING like 2013.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:24 PM, GunnerBill said: This is NOTHING like 2013. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there were at least 3 guys (Smith, Nassib, and Manuel) with 1st round projections, IIRC. I see a group of prospects being over rated due to positional need.
jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:24 PM, GunnerBill said: This is NOTHING like 2013. LOL.. You know that because you have a crystal Ball. Next year is the QB class not this year but ok make a bold statement that can't be confirmed for years...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:24 PM, GunnerBill said: This is NOTHING like 2013. They want to die in battle with Tyrod Taylor. It has nothing to do with these qb's actual abilities.
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) On 2/8/2017 at 9:27 PM, jms62 said: LOL.. You know that because you have a crystal Ball. Next year is the QB class not this year but ok make a bold statement that can't be confirmed for years... I don't care whether you agree. I didn't really like any of the 2013 Quarterbacks. I like this year's potential 1st rounders more than I liked last years. Even Mayock who has said today he isn't sure about taking any of these in the top 10 thinks there are first round Quarterbacks. On 2/8/2017 at 9:27 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: I'm not saying you're wrong, but there were at least 3 guys (Smith, Nassib, and Manuel) with 1st round projections, IIRC. I see a group of prospects being over rated due to positional need. I totally disagree. I wasn't doing full evluations in 2013 so I can't say what grade I'd have given those 3 but I really didn't like Geno (one of the worst decision makes I have seen play Quarterback) or Nassib (crap mechanics, crap arm, inconsistent accuracy, mid round talent). EJ and Glennon were my top 2 in that class and I don't know that I was convinced on either. Edited February 8, 2017 by GunnerBill
John from Riverside Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 Guys....lets not let our want of bringing back TT influence ranking of these qbs
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:45 PM, John from Hemet said: Guys....lets not let our want of bringing back TT influence ranking of these qbs Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.
YoloinOhio Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:47 PM, GunnerBill said: Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.+1
jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) On 2/8/2017 at 9:47 PM, GunnerBill said: Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic. Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans.. Edited February 8, 2017 by jms62
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:54 PM, jms62 said: Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans.. Go on.... which ones? I asked Alpha the same question he came up with nothing. Who are these experts saying it is like 2013? Matt Miller, Josh Norris, Greg Gabriel all say this class is better than the mid college season hysteria.
John from Riverside Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:54 PM, jms62 said: Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans.. jms i have not really seen anywhere that gunner was opposed to bringing back tt there are actually some of us that want both
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 I have said throughout the season I am 50/50 on Tyrod. I am okay with a decision to keep him and I am okay with them deciding to move on.
FireChan Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:47 PM, GunnerBill said: Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic. It's QB mania. EJ and JP had the same fans.
jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 10:00 PM, John from Hemet said: jms i have not really seen anywhere that gunner was opposed to bringing back tt there are actually some of us that want both He implied that I was attacking because I was a "vitriolic Tyrod fan". If there was a better option this year I am for it. I happen to agree with most pundits that say this just is not a good QB class and the next Good QB class is only a year away. Why be a buyer now when better product will be available next year?
GunnerBill Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) On 2/8/2017 at 10:06 PM, jms62 said: He implied that I was attacking because I was a "vitriolic Tyrod fan". If there was a better option this year I am for it. I happen to agree with most pundits that say this just is not a good QB class and the next Good QB class is only a year away. Why be a buyer now when better product will be available next year? Which pundits? Name them. I'm not saying 2018 won't be better. I haven't really evaluated those guys so far. Edited February 8, 2017 by GunnerBill
jms62 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 10:06 PM, GunnerBill said: Which pundits? Name them. I'm not saying 2018 won't be better. I haven't really evaluated those guys so far. Google and take your pick I am not interested in doing your research for you.
FireChan Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 10:09 PM, jms62 said: Google and take your pick I am not interested in doing your research for you. Lol you made the claim big boy.
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